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RichC2 06-21-13 11:51 AM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by discostu1337 (Post 11739138)
All I know is that every time I saw the list over the past week, the X1 was the number 1 item...saw it maybe 2-3 times on separate days. Doesn't really matter, just that the article makes it seem like it JUST happened ;)

I find it odd that the only two next gen games in the top 20 are both X1, and neither are Watch Dogs!

Alright alright, http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers..._bs_tab_t_bsar

Better? Also note that it has been sold out for a while now.

slop101 06-21-13 11:51 AM

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http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i...-950x10000.jpg

Jay G. 06-21-13 11:52 AM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by discostu1337 (Post 11739125)
Pretty sure the Xbox One was the number 1 pre-order item on the Amazon chart the entire time.

Not according to the article Deftones linked:
http://bgr.com/2013/06/21/xbox-one-p...ation-4-amazon

[After] Microsoft and Sony each made their E3 announcements, preorders of both the standard edition PlayStation 4 and the launch bundle... topped Microsoft’s Xbox One on Amazon.com, as ranked by the site’s best-sellers list in the video games category.
Also, here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=593486

Note that the PS4 Launch Day Edition (no games) has been sold out since June 12, although there are still Launch Day Edition bundles available.

The fragmenting of the PS4 SKUs is likely what's enabling Xbox One to regain the top spot. Amazon has four PS4 bundles in addition to the Standard Edition, while the Launch Edition is dropping in rank due to no new sales.

Interestingly, the PS4 controller is selling better than the Xbone controller. Assuming the same percentage of buyers for each console are buying a 2nd controller, this would seem to indicate that the PS4 is selling better overall.

Jay G. 06-21-13 11:57 AM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by discostu1337 (Post 11739138)
I find it odd that the only two next gen games in the top 20 are both X1, and neither are Watch Dogs!

I imagine it's because any PS4 buyer that wants Watch Dogs is likely buying the PS4 Watch Dogs Launch Bundle, which is ranked at #4 (above any Xbone games):
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Wa...dp/B00DE2W5M2/

In fact, the PS4 bundles are likely keeping the sales ranks of the individual games lower than they would otherwise be. It's thus not surprising that the Xbone games are higher, since there's no way to get those games bundled with the console (at least on Amazon).

Music 06-21-13 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 11739147)
penny arcade

rotfl

discostu1337 06-21-13 12:03 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 11739150)
Interestingly, the PS4 controller is selling better than the Xbone controller. Assuming the same percentage of buyers for each console are buying a 2nd controller, this would seem to indicate that the PS4 is selling better overall.

Or they don't give a fuck about the second player :) "Hey look, I just spent $500 on a new console, YOU buy the stupid controller!"

eXcentris 06-21-13 12:13 PM

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In Canada, the PS4 was OOS on amazon.ca (everywhere in fact) long before it became OOS on amazon.com, and the XB1 was/is still available.

Music 06-21-13 12:18 PM

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Yeah, I am not buying any additional controllers at launch.

fujishig 06-21-13 12:27 PM

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Yeah, I bought a second PS3 controller at launch. It never got used (heck, it never even got opened), and then they came out with a better controller anyway.

Crap, I just realized how much money I've spent on arcade sticks last gen... guess it'll be a while before I buy any fighting games on the new system.

Michael Corvin 06-21-13 12:31 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by SomethingMore (Post 11738908)
Shhhh... You can't stop totally irrational thinking from people who want so badly to think this specific tech corporation is the epitome of pure evil.

I already said I'm in at a price drop. Just because I'm not buying into every feature as god's, er MS's gift to gamers doesn't mean I don't have a right to an opinion.

Stay classy.

chess 06-21-13 12:42 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
Read fan interpretation
Of the Amazon best sellers list
was not too impressed

fujishig 06-21-13 12:42 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
For the most part I consider this forum to have very few real trolls or blind loyalists to one side or another. I think people commented before that the majority of this site seemed to be 360 gamers over PS3 gamers anyway. So I can't imagine the kinds of flame wars erupting on other sites.

I will say that I'm surprised there are so many people who thought that the Microsoft vision was this revolutionary thing that we're now going to completely miss out on.

I don't think anyone has true animosity towards Microsoft, at least in the gaming world, it's just over their decision this generation. The same posters probably ridiculed the giant crab of last gen, or the wii motion controls and dual screen when those were announced. And I'm sure if Sony wins this gen, they'll come right back with some insanely stupid, prideful decision next gen to open the door to their competition that we'll all ridicule.

chess 06-21-13 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 11739217)
For the most part I consider this forum to have very few real trolls or blind loyalists to one side or another. I think people commented before that the majority of this site seemed to be 360 gamers over PS3 gamers anyway. So I can't imagine the kinds of flame wars erupting on other sites.

Agree that it's been quite civil here...mostly just 360 folks being disappointed with Microsoft and expressing it in sensible terms.

I've personally owned some variation of every console worth owning going back to the 2600, and could have gone either way this generation. I was seriously disappointed with Sony early this generation, but I think they got it together within the first couple of years. I'm confident MS can do the same.

I think this will all blow over before the actual launch and the One will do just fine, especially if it has a couple of killer exclusives.

chuckd21 06-21-13 12:55 PM

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According to Amazon it's already blown over. ;)

pinata242 06-21-13 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chess (Post 11739215)
Read fan interpretation
Of the Amazon best sellers list
was not too impressed

What you have done here
Is a terrible haiku
Please go eat a dick

K&AJones 06-21-13 12:57 PM

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Now I'm really confused....

First Gamestop is no longer accepting pre-orders fro the Xbox One...

http://www.designntrend.com/articles...pre-orders.htm

GameStop has stopped taking pre-orders for Xbox One, as many GameStop locations have reached their launch cap.

Polygon reported that senior managers send out a nationwide email to GameStop store managers earlier this week telling them to stop accepting pre-orders. Supposedly, many had already stopped taking launch-date orders, since they had "run out of individual store-level allocations."



...and now this....GameStop accepting "unlimited preorders" for PS4 - Report

http://www.gamespot.com/news/gamesto...report-6410562


A leaked GameStop memo obtained by GameTrailers states that the retailer will, beginning this weekend, allow "unlimited preorders" for the PlayStation 4.

"Starting now, through this weekend and until further notice, Sony has allowed us to take unlimited preorders beyond your current allotments," reads a line from the memo.

"In other words, the floodgates are open for PS4 system reserves, we will let you know when to stop preordering based on limited quantities."

Michael Corvin 06-21-13 12:57 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 11739217)
For the most part I consider this forum to have very few real trolls or blind loyalists to one side or another. I think people commented before that the majority of this site seemed to be 360 gamers over PS3 gamers anyway. So I can't imagine the kinds of flame wars erupting on other sites.


Originally Posted by chess (Post 11739225)
Agree that it's been quite civil here...mostly just 360 folks being disappointed with Microsoft and expressing it in sensible terms.

Exactly. I don't give two shits about MS as a company, I care about them fucking with my gaming console/habits. Pretty much the same way with the Wii after 20 years of supporting Nintendo.

Hell look back in the 360 threads, I've been wanting MS to jump start next gen for at least two years. I'm not down with the 8 year cycle. A year ago, or even a few months ago, I was down for whatever MS put out without a care or thought to Sony at all. Hell just glancing at my GT would give you some idea which company I typically support(despite owning all 3). :lol:

So think I'm some troll is giving me a good laugh over here. Are some things exaggerated for emphasis or a laugh? Sure, but it comes from a genuine place.

Music 06-21-13 12:58 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11739234)
What you have done here
Is a terrible haiku
Please go eat a dick

:dance:

RichC2 06-21-13 01:02 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by K&AJones (Post 11739235)
Now I'm really confused....

First Gamestop is no longer accepting pre-orders fro the Xbox One...

http://www.designntrend.com/articles...pre-orders.htm

GameStop has stopped taking pre-orders for Xbox One, as many GameStop locations have reached their launch cap.

Polygon reported that senior managers send out a nationwide email to GameStop store managers earlier this week telling them to stop accepting pre-orders. Supposedly, many had already stopped taking launch-date orders, since they had "run out of individual store-level allocations."



...and now this....GameStop accepting "unlimited preorders" for PS4 - Report

http://www.gamespot.com/news/gamesto...report-6410562


A leaked GameStop memo obtained by GameTrailers states that the retailer will, beginning this weekend, allow "unlimited preorders" for the PlayStation 4.

"Starting now, through this weekend and until further notice, Sony has allowed us to take unlimited preorders beyond your current allotments," reads a line from the memo.

"In other words, the floodgates are open for PS4 system reserves, we will let you know when to stop preordering based on limited quantities."

There's no guarantee on when you'll receive your PS4 if you didn't get a "launch day" edition (which is sold out). So unlimited pre-orders is understandable. However, since Sony has apparently not run into the rumored manufacturing issues that Microsoft has, they should have no issue getting the pieces together and consoles shipped out very quickly. This was actually one of the smart moves on switching to AMD x86 and AMD/ATI graphic cards - they are already heavily stocked with manufacturing plants everywhere. This applies to the Xbox One as well but they seem to be running into engineering issues more so than parts limitations. Previous generations ran off IBM processors which seemed to be a bottleneck in production.

Barring any natural disasters (an earthquake in Taiwan (921 earthquake in 1999 and I believe another one later on) caused memory prices to skyrocket, the floods in Thailand in 2011 that drove up hdd prices) this should be a smooth launch, especially for Sony.

chess 06-21-13 01:06 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11739234)
What you have done here
Is a terrible haiku
Please go eat a dick

:lol:

five-seven-five mister. I award you zero points for your non-haiku.

Matthew Chmiel 06-21-13 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by K&AJones (Post 11739235)
"In other words, the floodgates are open for PS4 system reserves, we will let you know when to stop preordering based on limited quantities."

What will most likely happen, if the Wii U launch is any consideration, is you're fucked if you pre-order the console from GameStop. Especially if you're looking to get it on day one.

GameStop allowed one too many pre-orders on the Wii U and it was not nearly enough to meet demand. For weeks after launch, if you called in, the automated greeting specifically stated that consoles were first come, first serve for those who had already pre-ordered one. You were not allowed to simply walk into a GameStop and just purchase one if they had them available.

I would be genuinely surprised if GameStop locations had more than 20 units on launch, especially with all the retailers carrying the console. Best Buy, Fry's, K-Mart, Sears, Target, Wal-Mart, and more are just some of the retailers with hundreds of locations in North America that'll have the console on launch.

The better question is, how many consoles with Microsoft and Sony launch on day one? 2M? 3M? 5M? More?

chess 06-21-13 01:12 PM

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If I don't get a PS4 on launch day from my preorder, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Hell, I probably won't even own any games.

I'd have to just stare at it and hum Also sprach Zarathustra.

RichC2 06-21-13 01:12 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11739256)
The better question is, how many consoles with Microsoft and Sony launch on day one? 2M? 3M? 5M? More?

Probably 1 million worldwide.

The PS3 sold 86,000 units on launch day in Japan, the US was supposed to have 400,000 but they couldn't meet that and only shipped out about 240,000.

The 360 doesn't have launch day numbers but it sold 326,000 units in November (launched on 22nd) in the US. The winner at that time was the Gameboy Advance which sold 690,000 units that month, the PS2 sold 531,000 units.

chuckd21 06-21-13 01:16 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11739256)
What will most likely happen, if the Wii U launch is any consideration, is you're fucked if you pre-order the console from GameStop. Especially if you're looking to get it on day one.

GameStop allowed one too many pre-orders on the Wii U and it was not nearly enough to meet demand. For weeks after launch, if you called in, the automated greeting specifically stated that consoles were first come, first serve for those who had already pre-ordered one. You were not allowed to simply walk into a GameStop and just purchase one if they had them available.

I would be genuinely surprised if GameStop locations had more than 20 units on launch, especially with all the retailers carrying the console. Best Buy, Fry's, K-Mart, Sears, Target, Wal-Mart, and more are just some of the retailers with hundreds of locations in North America that'll have the console on launch.

The better question is, how many consoles with Microsoft and Sony launch on day one? 2M? 3M? 5M? More?

Yep. I'd never pre-order a console from Gamestop. The Wii U launch was a giant clusterfuck.

Matthew Chmiel 06-21-13 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11739265)
Probably 1 million worldwide.

The PS3 sold 86,000 units on launch day in Japan, the US was supposed to have 400,000 but they couldn't meet that and only shipped out about 240,000.

I feel based upon the PS3 launch, Sony is more prepared for this generation. Or I would hope so based upon how they won E3. I would state the same for Microsoft, but who knows based upon the manufacturing rumors.

If all the retails locations (i.e. Best Buy, GameStop, Target, Wal-Mart, etc.) I mentioned in my last post get at least 10 consoles per store, that would be at least 175K units out in the wild on launch. I know Best Buy, GameStop, and the Microsoft stores were allowing pre-orders for consoles. Anywhere else?


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