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Quantic Dream doesn't really count since they simply didn't do sequels, Heavy Rain and Beyond Two Souls are very much in the same vein as Fahrenheit, a game that wasn't franchise ready (seriously, how do you make a sequel to that? Does it get cold again?).

Same goes for Uncharted and Last of Us, though Last of Us is played at a decidedly slow pace.

Killzone has 6 titles (Killzone, Killzone 2, Killzone 3, Killzon: Shadow Fall, Killzone Liberation, Killzone Mercenary) not bad for a mediocre shooter series (great visuals).

I think my issue is I don't really love the exclusives on either platform (Uncharted 2 and Gears being the main exceptions), at least not the major ones. Xbox 360 had Super Meat Boy, Bastion, Fez and Splosion Man which kept me happy for a good while. PS3 had Echochrome. I commend them for trying something different with all the "interactive art" titles on PSN but that just isn't my thing. I do need to try out Closure though.

So extra cost, but not insanely so.

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Video games are going to be okay, you guys.

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Yep. Quick Amazon search shows you can get a 1TB drive for $75 or less.

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Correct. There are bundles.

Standard Edition
Battlefield 4 and PS Plus Launch Bundle
Killzone and PS Plus Launch Bundle
Knack Launch Bundle
Launch Edition
Watch Dogs Launch Bundle

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Ryse, Forza 5 and Dead Rising 3. Actually just the latter two were upgraded to delivery on the 27th. Ryse still has a placeholder date.

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Sure, but hopefully larger point taken.

Disagree that Uncharted and Last of Us are the same, other than controlling a guy who shoots and punches.

I don't think it's fair to include PSP titles, and I wasn't including the next game of either franchise, so it's either 3-7 or 4-8.

Agree that MOST of the best games were cross platform and the ways they differentiated between consoles were largely pointless and/or stupid (timed content or inconsequential extra DLC).

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Saturation of a title has to do with just how whored out the name is, Halo is a dirty slut but so is Killzone at this point.

Uncharted and Last of Us are very different but they feel very similar. Plus it isn't like they switch from Uncharted (very linear adventure game with excessive spurts of action) to Portal. They just went to a very linear adventure game with excessive spurts of stealth.

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If we really want to make this a dick measuring contest against console exclusives, we could just post actual sales numbers between the exclusive titles on the 360 and PS3.

And guess who wins in that one?

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That'd be too much math since you would have to add up the sales of every individual exclusive title for both platforms, not just the big ones.

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Yup...and it also discounts the sheer number and quality of exclusives relative to each platform, and it doesn't control for number of consoles in the install base.

It's an utterly meaningless statistic. It would be like aggregating metacritic scores rather than averaging them.

Actually, a weighted average of metacritic scores would be meaningful.

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Don't forget games like Mass Effect, Lost Planet, Prey, Saints Row, Left 4 Dead, Left 4 Dead 2, Metro 2033, Alan Wake and Dead Rising too as 360 exclusives, for the most part. Lost Planet was exclusive for over a year. The first Mass Effect was exclusive to the 360 for over five years.

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It is kind of strange you can swoop in and buy a Guaranteed-on-Launch Xbox One still, on Amazon.

I can't do the critic thing anymore, I find myself disagreeing more and more these days. Last of Us is not a 9.5/10, Halo 4 is not an 8.7/10, both are closer to 8s. Journey is not a 10. Deadly Premonition is not a 2.

And as long as sites like Quarter to Three are on Metacritic the entire average is screwed. You can't give a game as rushed as Metro: Last Light a 5/5 while giving a game as polished as Halo 4 a 1/5.

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Indeed, same with Bioshock for a year. The 360 utterly dominated the exclusives war in the first couple of years of this generation, but most of those went to PS3 once people figured out how to program for it.

But over the past 5 years, when exclusives have mostly come from first party studios, Sony has really pulled away.

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Linky please!?!?!?!? *very happy if true*

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Unfortunately, While Sony has figured out that staying power is in the multiplayer, they haven't actualy figured out how to come out with a strong single player and quality MP. Even their MP dedicated games like SOCOM came out pretty weak.

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fixed. ;)
(and no, I don't have proof. I'm kidding. Mostly.)

When you're at the bottom, you pay to get stuff ported to your system after it is released elsewhere. MS actively does it with WP8, as does BlackBerry.

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I only included games that were exclusives to the console. Bioshock, Mass Effect, etc. weren't included as they made their way to the PS3 sooner or later.

http://i.imgur.com/x7DktMe.jpg

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Looks like taking away the DRM vaulted Xbox One past PS4 on Amazon: http://bgr.com/2013/06/21/xbox-one-p...tion-4-amazon/

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^only because there's 5 (or 6?) PS4 SKUs, dontcha know. :D

That was fast, man. :up:

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Matthew Chmiel: So what you're saying is Halo and Gears of War are really popular, especially in the USA?

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http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-hard-drive/

We had the opportunity to chat with Albert Penello, senior director of product planning at Microsoft this afternoon, who was kind enough to clarify a few topics for us regarding the recently-unveiled Xbox One. One thing we were quick to ask about was the integrated storage. 500GB sounds like a lot today -- but so did the 20GB unit in the original Xbox 360. The HDD there was, at least, replaceable. Can you do the same with its successor? Sadly, no. Hard drives in the Xbox One are non-user-serviceable, but Penello confirmed that the USB 3.0 port is there for external storage, which can be used for everything the internal storage can be used for. That includes game installs and downloads. So, don't fret: adding storage will be just as easy as ever.

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I'm not exactly sure how Amazon's "Best Sellers' page works, but I'm assuming it only goes back so far. So, these numbers don't tell us that more people have ordered Xbox One overall...just that more people have ordered it recently. Which makes sense given the announcement.

Also, PS4 orders are scattered amongst the various bundles. Not sure what would happen if you added them all up.

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I only included the top twenty selling exclusive titles. Either way, 360 dominated.

Just like Gran Turismo is popular everywhere else in the world. :)

Also, to be fair, FPS are huge in North America, Europe, and Australia, but not elsewhere in the world. It's just one of the many reasons the 360 failed in Japan.

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Not to go off on a tangent, but yes Halo 4 is super polished. It's also super dull. I'd rather play a janky, interesting game than a slick, shiny boring one.

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True. Outside of PSN and Xbox Live Arcade neither console had much variety but the PS3 had more non-FPS.

I don't disagree it's a dull game, but I'm struggling to get through Last of Us for similar reason yet can see that it is well made besides that. There are certain games that deserve 1 out of 5 ratings, they're usually Big Rig simulators and games that won't let you log in, like SimCity.

If I were a game critic I would rate purely off enjoyment, so I kind of get it. I would also be fired in a week.