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Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
(Post 11812986)
I still think they had 11/15 staked out and Sony slid in and just fucked them up royally. They're now scrambling to see if they can make it before the PS4. IMO.
Sony's cards are on the table. There is no legitimate reason not to announce a date now. |
Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Originally Posted by chess
(Post 11812993)
You're right about haters, but it's not about them anymore.
It's about the general public and how they view Microsoft and Xbox as brands, and I really think the best thing they could do is one really straightforward press release with as many details as they can possibly give, because the uncertainty and backtracking makes the brand look weak and unsteady. |
Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
The date is irrelevant. We know it comes out before X-mas. We know it will sell out. I just hope it's a Friday so I can play all weekend ;)
Thinking they are showing weakness by not saying an exact date yet is ridiculous. Thinking they are having problems manufacturing the product this late in the game is also ridiculous. They know what they are doing, they have been planning the creation of this device for years. Its not like they are scrambling trying to piece something together a week or two before they planned on being ready. They were ready a long time ago. Sony has yet to provide a working retail kit, MS had retail kits at Gamescom. |
Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
^ except the system they've been designing for years isn't the one they are releasing this fall. They may have been ready long ago, but things changed.
Originally Posted by fumanstan
(Post 11812989)
Agreed, I mentioned that before, no reason it has to be at an event or trade show. Press and media get everything right away anyway.
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Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Originally Posted by chess
(Post 11812993)
You're right about haters, but it's not about them anymore.
It's about the general public and how they view Microsoft and Xbox as brands, |
Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
I remain convinced that Microsoft went with "November" as a release announcement to give themselves as much wiggle room as possible to get this thing out. It made no sense to do that and then release at the beginning of the month.
If that was the plan they would have announced the 8th or whatever early date when they said November. |
Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
I thought Microsoft was using a PC for public demos? Or was that just at E3?
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Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
(Post 11813026)
^ except the system they've been designing for years isn't the one they are releasing this fall. They may have been ready long ago, but things changed.
Still amuses me that people bitched about a required 24/7 internet connection, but are now happy even though you still need one to hook it up. Apparently people can make internet magically appear for one day, but never again ;) |
Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Originally Posted by Supermallet
(Post 11813054)
I thought Microsoft was using a PC for public demos? Or was that just at E3?
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Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Originally Posted by discostu1337
(Post 11813055)
Still amuses me that people bitched about a required 24/7 internet connection, but are now happy even though you still need one to hook it up. Apparently people can make internet magically appear for one day, but never again ;)
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Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
(Post 11813118)
You don't see the difference between "once, briefly" and "always"?
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Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Yeah, the general public doesn't even know that they are releasing new consoles this year. They are "so both companies are releasing a new playstation(you know how they call both consoles by the same name, although lately they may be called xboxes) this year?"
This kind of helped with my wife, she just saw that I traded in one of my old Xbox 360s, and asked me where was the new one? :D Oh no, that's not releasing until November I said... I don't think she still knows this is an unique event. And I'm 100% sure she doesn't care about it. :lol: |
Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Since no one knows much about Fighters Within, a title due at launch for the One, here's a press release about the middleware:
Tokyo, Japan – August 28, 2013 – Silicon Studio, a high-end middleware provider and game developer announced today that independent studio Daoka is utilizing Silicon Studio’s middleware solution, YEBIS 2, in the upcoming Kinect-enabled title Fighter Within, published by Ubisoft for Xbox One, the all-in-one games and entertainment system from Microsoft. Utilizing the power of Xbox One and Kinect for Xbox One, Fighter Within delivers the long awaited motion fighting promise, allowing players to throw punches and kicks in the most immersive and competitive brawling experience available in gaming. “YEBIS 2 allowed us to implement state of the art post processing effects in our game,” said Yves Grolet, studio director at Daoka. “This saved us a great deal of time and allowed us to significantly raise the visual quality of our next gen title, Fighter Within.” In addition to providing next-gen gameplay mechanics, through the power of YEBIS 2, Daoka is bringing the best in next-gen visual effects, including tone mapping and color grading, glare effects, depth of field, anti-aliasing, and god rays. Fighter Within sets a high standard of visual effects for Xbox One, launching this fall. “By utilizing YEBIS 2,” says Takehiro Terada, CEO of Silicon Studio “Daoka can create the ground-breaking effects available in YEBIS 2 without compromising development time, money, and resources. This is a beautiful looking game, in large part due to this newly formed relationship.” Players can see the powerful visual effects brought to Fighter Within by downloading the following screenshots HERE: fighter-within.ubi.com/ |
Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
That's because it's technically the successor to Fighters Uncaged.
Which was god awful. |
Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
No one actually wants to punch and kick in a fighting game.
Hell, I played Mike Tyson's Punch Out with my Power Glove back in the day and my arm was tired after fighting Glass Joe. |
Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Originally Posted by chess
(Post 11812978)
See, that's the thing. I think preorders and loyalists are kind of baked in already, and 2013 sales will be what they will be.
At this point, it's about branding. MS has already done a lot of damage to the XBox brand, and they don't seem to see that they are continuing to do damage. They look like they don't know what they are doing. I'm no expert in PR, but it seems to me that even if they have to launch after Sony, it is in their interest to remove as much uncertainty as they can from this launch. |
Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
It's geek amusement. We aren't 70m strong, so in the long term it doesn't matter.
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Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Originally Posted by Liver&Onions
(Post 11813049)
Do you really think the general public cares? I don't. I work with a large group of people, a lot of them gamers. A large portion of them don't know shit about these systems, especially release dates. All they know is that the other nerds at work are all giddy about November.
They talk about this stuff and are more savvy than we give them credit for, and inevitably, one system becomes "cooler" than the others. |
Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
It's August 28th. These systems aren't coming out until November. MS has at least a month or so of cushion to announce a release date. The general public doesn't give a shit about this right now, despite what you think chess.
Smart phones sometimes announce release dates just days or sooner before they are released, like iphones, so even waiting until a month before release to announce a release date isn't ridiculous by any standard. The Xbox One includes Kinect and a headset, which certainly justify the price. The exclusives look great. Sony just looks desperate with their price drop and release date and are trying to hide the fact that they just don't have enough AAA launch exclusive titles. I'm sure their indie games will be fun, but that's not why I would buy a next gen console. This is coming from a person who's never owned and Xbox or Playstation of any generation. |
Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Originally Posted by chess
(Post 11813285)
Sure, most adults don't follow or talk about this stuff, but you're discounting the one group that Microsoft has discounted through this entire process with their high price tag, mandatory internet and DRM (former) and Kinect: Kids
They talk about this stuff and are more savvy than we give them credit for, and inevitably, one system becomes "cooler" than the others. And kids aren't savvy, they just think they are. |
Re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
Originally Posted by Brack
(Post 11743494)
Looking forward to the new system . PS fanboys saying the damage ia alrady down have thier heads up their ass. Better exclusives, better Kinect, and better controller -- a no brainer for me.
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Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Originally Posted by chess
(Post 11813285)
Sure, most adults don't follow or talk about this stuff, but you're discounting the one group that Microsoft has discounted through this entire process with their high price tag, mandatory internet and DRM (former) and Kinect: Kids
They talk about this stuff and are more savvy than we give them credit for, and inevitably, one system becomes "cooler" than the others. |
Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Depending on the age of the kid, the Kinect is the one thing that young kids do seem to enjoy based on my completely anecdotal evidence.
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Re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
Originally Posted by chess
(Post 11813296)
Yeah, don't think I'm gonna engage with this one.
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Re: Xbox One: The Only Choice for Rational Gamers
Originally Posted by fumanstan
(Post 11813299)
Depending on the age of the kid, the Kinect is the one thing that young kids do seem to enjoy based on my completely anecdotal evidence.
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