sorry, i TOW'd a couple times last night, from really high up and off the map, so sorry, i didn't see this before...it was actually my first successful TOW...

I tried to get on afte 10, but it wouldn;t let me...

I TOW'd. Proud of it. You bitches were pissing me off.

Even though I feel like I'm always the recipient of Slider's kamikaze BALLS, I can't help but laugh every time it happens. As predictable as me missing entirely, there's Slider, ready and willing to blow himself up for the cause.

I don't think I TOW'd any more than usual...but if you got TOW'd, odds are you had my flag.

Lots of hate for Slider carrying over from CoD. This amuses me.

We probably should have sent Steve over in the last Horde mode as well, but there's a pretty big difference between 4 on 7 and 3 on 8. Still, when 2 of your 7 aren't the least bit dangerous (Sean and Marcus), it was really more like 4 on 5 and wasn't going to end anything but badly.

I can play any time this week Chew...even during the day. Let me know what's good for you.

I have my siren at level 28 now, and she's right on the verge of being a badass. I have an explosive artifact on my phasewalk and an electrical perk along with a perk called Phoenix that sets people on fire. Since I'm almost always carrying a caustic SMG, it's not uncommon for dudes to have ALL FOUR elements hitting them at once. They just look like an explosion of numbers!

That said, she has kind of weak defense and you have to get her in close to do serious damage...which isn't a good combo.

Lots of oddities on the server last night, some my fault (didn't notice that it defaulted back to 8 in the launch screen), and some not.

This one is odd because we had 9-10 on just before you tried to get in.

Tonight would work. I can still get Lost in before a 7:00 start time.

Here's a radical balancing suggestion: Instead of all 3 playing offense all the time, one has to only play (ground) defense. Rotate that person on each map. Obviously, the other two are split between the two teams.

Shouldn't be problem, but I need to see what the other has planned for me. I'm kind of tempted to roll in my siren just so you can see her in action, but I think she's closer to the level of my game with my son.

That would work, except that digi is better than both Z and me. It wouldn't be so hard to do if all 3 of us were always on. Me and Z against a combo of digi and, say, flip or eroc would work out just fine...but digi usually rolls in around 8-8:30.

I wish I had the ability to just manually set up the teams before every game.

Really, all we need is for folks to recognize when they are overmanned and play accordingly. If you're up by 2 or more flags, odds are somebody is frustrated.

If digi is playing, he always has to play defense.

There, problem solved.

Good luck getting THAT flag.

I'm meeting the other for tacos...should know by 6 or so.

I'm good Chew...see you in a bit.

Well, I dont want to make the game frustrating for others, so if that is the case then I can just sit out for a couple weeks and see if that changes the dynamic. I dont mind sitting back in a game for a few minutes here and there, but there were times last night where I was picking daisies for 80% of the time and that gets kind of old, which may be why I go balls out for the 20% that I do jump in on, so sorry about that.

Not looking to chase you off at all. You've always been a central part of the game and a regular from at or near the beginning, and some of the most fun games I've had lately were me and you against "the horde". The problem is just that whichever team you're on has a 90+% chance of winning, and I can't figure out how to stack the teams to correct that.

Just remember that the expectation (as stated in the OP) was always that the best players would "play casual" in order to maintain the right tone for new players. It probably bothers me less to chill out for entire maps because I feel some ownership (as the guy who started this train wreck) in maintaining the "environment". In actuality, I probably spend more time thinking about it than I should.

In other news, Chew and I finished Borderlands. That's a pretty good game right there.

Chew and I really pushed through, playing several nights a week, but I'd be interested in a 4-man play-through on a dedicated night if digi and Flip can commit.

I'm up for a weekly run-through if we can have a consistent 4 players.

What if before anyone does anything on a map, we balance teams? I'm sure it would take about 30 seconds.

chess: Another YLOD on a 60gb just reported in the PS3 thread.

My 60g promised not to die. I believed it.

the odds are against you. back up your data.

I would be interested in 4 player borderlands if we can come up with a time each week, but it would really have to be just once a week though I would think so we can be more sure that everyone can consistently play.

I think this should be doable as long as everyone is able to hear the team assignments.

I play casual with the new guys, but you are no longer new

What about veterans that still suck?

yeah, i was just gonna post and ask if I can be new again?

...and i think Chew should have to stop stabbing me!

That's all I'm good at.

everyone should have to stop doing what they are good at...except me...then it will be fair.