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That is wild. I'm thrilled to see it.
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I'm curious what aspect ratio it will be. I mean this was early 80s, it had to have been shot on video tape.
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Edit: According to thedigitalbits, the show was shot on Panavision Panaflex 35mm film cameras.
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Some series were shot on film but edited on video, though, especially in the back half of the '80s. Universal carried the finishing-everything-on-film torch longer than most.
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I hope Miami Vice gets the 4k treatment and somebody else besides Mill Creeks gets it since their Blu-ray transfers looked awful on a 82" Samsung QLED.
They looked a lot better on Starz on demand when they carried the show.
They looked a lot better on Starz on demand when they carried the show.
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The irony in this is that 4-perf 35mm captured a 1.37:1 image on the camera negative, which was later matted to 1.85:1 for theatrical projection. Whereas 3-perf 35mm captured an image closer to 16:9, and the sides were then discarded in post-production by zooming into the 4:3 center area for TV broadcast. Neither method was the most efficient way of capturing the intended final display aspect ratio.
In many cases, it is possible to remaster old TV shows for widescreen by going back and scanning the original camera negative for the whole width of the 3-perf frame. However, because the shows were actually composed for 4:3, this sometimes exposes lighting and camera equipment on the sides of the frame that were never meant to be seen. The HD masters for Buffy the Vampire Slayer (technically shot on 16mm, but same idea) are notorious for this. Even if not for flubs like that, you often wind up with scenes awkwardly composed with all the actors bunched into the middle of the screen with lots of dead space on the sides. (Many episodes of Gilmore Girls look like that in HD.)
Further, any visual effects in an action/sci-fi show like Knight Rider would have likely been completed and composited on video at 4:3 and then output back to film. In shots like those, you'd have to crop the top and bottom or stretch the image to get 16:9. Perhaps that's not as serious a problem on Knight Rider as it was on shows like Star Trek: TNG or Babylon 5, but it'd still come up a lot. For example, the opening and closing titles, or any shots with on-screen text, were composites probably completed on video.
In practice, most old 4:3 TV shows that get remastered for 16:9 wind up using a combination of open-matte on the sides for some shots, while others are cropped and/or stretched.
The best course of action would be to just remaster the show in the aspect ratio it was composed for, which would be 4:3.
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Yeah, Knight Rider and even the first seasons of Airwolf were all shot on film. Once Jan Michael Vincent left and Barry Van Dyke took over - they switched to video, especially for a lot of the fx-shots in the latter. Knight Rider stayed shot on film until the end.
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I can't speak to Knight Rider specifically, but in general, a major network primetime TV drama like this would have been shot on 35mm in 3-perf format - as opposed to the 4-perf format used for feature films. 3-perf meant that each frame of film was shorter, and thus the production used less physical film and saved money.
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It wasn't until the mid 90s that TV shows started thinking about "future-proofing" their shows for eventual HD 16:9 presentation, but that wasn't universal. When The Wire HD remaster came out, an article noted that this 2002-2008 show specifically requested shooting in 16:9, even though it initially aired in 4:3.
https://cinematography.com/index.php...rf-super-35mm/
https://davidsimon.com/the-wire-hd-with-videos/
This article notes that Freaks and Geeks (1999) was shot 4:3, while X-Files initial run (1993-2002) started 4:3 and switched in later seasons to 3-perf 16:9 :
https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/7...ate/index.html
...On the first few episodes of season one, production shot approximately 60,000 feet of 35mm four perf. As the show became more successful, later episodes had as much as 120,000 feet of 35mm three perf negative per episode
...We recently remastered the television series Freaks and Geeks in 4K for Paramount and Shout Factory. We did the same process where they shot in 4x3, and we created a 16x9 version and it looks really great.
...The early seasons were shot 1:33:1 and remastered in both 4x3 and 16x9. Later seasons were shot 16x9 1:78:1. We were aided by having the film scans of the whole negative, which gave us more image to work with. Unfortunately, we didn't have any input from the original production creators regarding the reframe to 16x9.
...We recently remastered the television series Freaks and Geeks in 4K for Paramount and Shout Factory. We did the same process where they shot in 4x3, and we created a 16x9 version and it looks really great.
...The early seasons were shot 1:33:1 and remastered in both 4x3 and 16x9. Later seasons were shot 16x9 1:78:1. We were aided by having the film scans of the whole negative, which gave us more image to work with. Unfortunately, we didn't have any input from the original production creators regarding the reframe to 16x9.
https://www.studiodaily.com/2009/03/...-home-stretch/
The popular medical TV episodic ER is winding down after a 15-year run. But it’s going out with a bang: after the entire run was filmed on 4-perf 35mm, the last seven episodes were shot with the Red camera. The decision to go Red was not taken lightly. “When I first came on the show five years ago, I was really surprised,” says associate producer Dieter Ismagil. “The post workflow was from 1994. The dailies were standard-def and our final conform was the cut negative. We were the only show on TV to be color-timing off the cut negative. Everyone else was doing HD dailies and tape-to-tape color-correction.”
For Knight Rider, being an 80s TV show, it was almost definitely shot on 4-perf 35mm, and not 3-perf.
Some more discussion on 3-perf
https://cinematography.com/index.php...rf-super-35mm/
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I will defer to your knowledge and research. I thought three-perf production went further back than that (as I said, it was less about "future-proofing" for 16:9 than about saving money by using less film stock), but maybe not.
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The remaining Vinegar Syndrome titles for May:






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This cover reminds me of my editor when I was drawing editorial cartoons for the college newspaper. He said you need more labels and word balloons. I asked why and he said that's what editorial cartoons do to make it more obvious what's going on for people who don't get stuff unless it's obvious. Then the senior editor came around the corner and said wow, your last few cartoons have been great, keep it up. Oh, my editor was mad.
Maybe he's a movie poster design editor now and so mad that now he thinks Bridget Wilson's Veronica Vaughn isn't showing enough contempt for Adam Sandler's Billy Madison. People need it obvious, he thinks. A-ha! Word balloons! We need a word balloon here!
Poking around the Internet, this word balloon may have even been on the original theatrical one sheet poster?! Oh, man... That's sad!
Maybe he's a movie poster design editor now and so mad that now he thinks Bridget Wilson's Veronica Vaughn isn't showing enough contempt for Adam Sandler's Billy Madison. People need it obvious, he thinks. A-ha! Word balloons! We need a word balloon here!
Poking around the Internet, this word balloon may have even been on the original theatrical one sheet poster?! Oh, man... That's sad!

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I actually like the artwork lol
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I like it, too, it's that word balloon. Just... a little on the nose, yes?
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Yes lol
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It's also about compatibility with existing equipment and workflows and services. When I was looking up info on 3-perf Super35, one conversation I found was talking about how hard it was to find a telecine that could actually scan 3-perf film, at least initially. So, when the entire film and TV industry was standardized on 4 perf 35mm, it was far easier to get cameras and shoot, edit, and scan on that. Movies started using 3-perf 3mm first, because even with the extra hassles of equipment, workflow, and services, it was still easier than dealing with anamorphic 35mm, especially in certain cases like special effects. Then, as equipment and services became more available to service the film industry, TV started picking it up, especially once they started planning for the transition to HD and the "shoot in 16:9, but compose for 4:3 center crop" became a strategy. But the TV industry shift happened well after Knight Rider.
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Coming around Halloween from Blue Underground.


Thanks for the heads-up from @Disc-Connected.


Thanks for the heads-up from @Disc-Connected.
***ANNOUNCEMENT***
Coming around #Halloween on #4K in the US from #BlueUnderground: #RawMeat AKA #DeathLine (1972)!
Gary Sherman's RAW MEAT (aka DEATH LINE), in a brand-new 2025 restoration from the original uncensored camera negative, with Dolby Vision HDR and new Dolby Atmos audio mix!
BENEATH MODERN LONDON LIVES A TRIBE OF ONCE HUMANS. NEITHER MEN NOR WOMEN… THEY ARE THE RAW MEAT OF THE HUMAN RACE!
There’s something pretty grisly going on under London in the Tube tunnels between Holborn and Russell Square. When a top civil servant becomes the latest to disappear down there, Scotland Yard start to take the matter seriously. Helping them are a young couple who get nearer to the horrors underground than they would wish.
Coming around #Halloween on #4K in the US from #BlueUnderground: #RawMeat AKA #DeathLine (1972)!
Gary Sherman's RAW MEAT (aka DEATH LINE), in a brand-new 2025 restoration from the original uncensored camera negative, with Dolby Vision HDR and new Dolby Atmos audio mix!
BENEATH MODERN LONDON LIVES A TRIBE OF ONCE HUMANS. NEITHER MEN NOR WOMEN… THEY ARE THE RAW MEAT OF THE HUMAN RACE!
There’s something pretty grisly going on under London in the Tube tunnels between Holborn and Russell Square. When a top civil servant becomes the latest to disappear down there, Scotland Yard start to take the matter seriously. Helping them are a young couple who get nearer to the horrors underground than they would wish.
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Shout in August:
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Steelbook reissues:


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Amazon lists a few other August titles that aren't currently for preorder on shoutfactory.com -- two additional steelbook reissues and Miami Vice:


UHD:







Steelbook reissues:


Blu-ray:


Amazon lists a few other August titles that aren't currently for preorder on shoutfactory.com -- two additional steelbook reissues and Miami Vice:


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Deathstalker I & II in 4K UHD. Not ever in my life would I have expected that.
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Coming August 26th - a 50th anniversary edition of Monty Python and the Holy Grail!


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Truthfully I’m not the biggest fan of Monty Python and the Holy Grail, but my wife likes it quite a bit so I’ll grab it. I’ve always found a lot of it to kind of drag. There are funny moments though.
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The Keep (1983) – Cross Replica Limited Edition – 4K UHD + 2-Disc Blu-ray + CD – Imprint Collection #438
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