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Half of you are just going to trash this article without reading it, but :shrug:
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/20/444...rship-policies some excerpts: Microsoft's shift in direction is the best proof of how, when it comes to DRM, even one of Earth's largest companies will find a way to be agile. .. Microsoft fumbled the messaging, and its reversal on policy is the company taking a timeout to regroup on the sidelines. .. Fret not: Those perks, and presumably more, will appear on the Xbox One. They are future leverage, the spoonful of sugar that will help the eventual DRM medicine go down. .. The same goes for Sony, whose consumer camaraderie is merely the positioning of public opinion. .. And here's the kind of, sort of, maybe good news: Both Sony and Microsoft know they're now competing for the best messaging of the DRM they will eventually enforce. The companies are motivated to make this digital shift — which is inevitable — as painless as possible. .. The ability to trade digital games, lower prices for digital software, subscription services à la Netflix, family sharing, an always-accessible digital game library, digital game lending: these are just a few of the options Microsoft and Sony can consider to incentivize consumers to choose their platform. |
re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
Originally Posted by Groucho
(Post 11738225)
I've noticed that wherever Microsoft was vague, wishful thinking took over. Several pages ago, there was baseless speculation that MS would offer digital downloads of new games at $40 -- and then that was treated as a factual strike against PS4.
Originally Posted by House
(Post 11738226)
Originally Posted by SomethingMore
(Post 11737830)
I was just personally excited for the Steam-era of console gaming.
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What's funny is that in order to defend Microsoft's vision, people have resorted to crowing about problems that were not problems prior to Microsoft announcing that they had a solution.
It would be like me making a watch that only ran in reverse, claiming that it had solved the problem of those darn clockwise watches that have dominated the industry. |
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Originally Posted by slop101
(Post 11737651)
Yeah, and it's doubly insulting for them to assume we'd think it's some amazing feature. It's like they're in their own bubble, oblivious to how everyone else plays games.
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Originally Posted by chuckd21
(Post 11737678)
Amazon has changed the "release date" of the system from Saturday November 30th to Friday November 29th. Not sure if that means anything yet.
Which also means they WANT someone to die again on that day in the process of getting one of the systems. |
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Originally Posted by Supermallet
(Post 11737910)
Everyone knows you can't spell "Jesus" without "Microsoft". -ohbfrank-
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Originally Posted by discostu1337
(Post 11738250)
The flip flop realistically did nothing and may have actually LOST customers.
-PS4 people still won't buy it -Xbox owners who switched to PS4 still won't buy it at launch, but MAYBE later. -People excited for the original X1 may now be less interested and switch to PS4 or get nothing. They pretty much double screwed up now. |
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One of the gripes I've had so far with the XO is the way MS has been pushing it as a "All-In-One Media Center" which I and probably countless others don't care for. I found this article from yesterday at a site called Polygon that seems to confirm what I see in the future of XO and what MS invisions...
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/20/444...to-aid-tv-push Elan Lee joins Xbox Entertainment Studios to aid TV push Microsoft has hired Elan Lee to help in its effort to connect Xbox One with TV entertainment. Lee has been taken on as chief design officer at Xbox Entertainment Studios, the new Microsoft unit tasked with shoring up its TV entertainment push. Elan will report to the XES head Nancy Tellem, who was formerly president of CBS Television Studios. Lee worked at Microsoft Game Studios back in the 1990s before moving into designing large-scale human interaction games, sometimes called Alternate Reality Games, such as The Beast and Halo 2 promotional game I Love Bees. More recently he formed Fourth Wall Studios, which created interactive TV comedy Dirty Work. Nancy Tellem appeared at the Xbox One launch in Redmond last month to unveil plans for a collaboration with Steven Spielberg to create a new TV series based on Halo. Earlier this year, she spoke at a panel on the future of TV and games consoles, saying that she had assembled a team of 150 people to create original TV programming for Xbox One, including reality, scripted drama and live events, but with an interactive twist. The importance Microsoft places in this effort can also be gauged by its repeated references to Xbox One's relationships with the television at that event in May. Microsoft chief Steve Ballmer and Tellem were reported to have met with Hollywood executives earlier this month. |
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See, that's the thing. I already think of the current gen consoles as all in one media hubs. The only things I watch that I don't do on my PS3 are live TV and DVR, and I simply don't want or need my console to do those 2 things...and I'm pretty sure my cable provider won't either.
I damn sure don't want it to do live TV but not DVR because that's just dumb. The future is ala carte programming, and neither console seems to be going that way. |
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Exactly. One of my friends is high on this concept but I'm with you. Current consoles are already all in one media hubs and my 'input' button on my remote still works so I'm good there.
Without access to the DVR the tv functions are just stupid. They would have been awesome 15 years ago. Unless it's sports, nothing gets watched live. Hell it can't even time shift to skip commercials. The networks and studios will love it I this takes off. Commercials for everyone! |
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What the the hell would be the point of the family sharing only actually being demos?
Is that for the games that actually don't have a demo released? That makes no sense whatsoever. Then again, neither did allowing 2 people on different consoles to play the same 1 game purchase at the same time. :shrug: |
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Conversation with a co-worker
Him: "Are you getting a PS4?" Me: "Yes" Him: "I was thinking about getting a Xbox One for my son, but it has to be connected online and no used games" Me: "Oh the actually have taken all that out. It was just announced" Him: "Eh, too late I don't care. And PS4 is $100 cheaper" I wonder how many others feel the same now. |
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Originally Posted by Decker
(Post 11738549)
You might be. You also seem to be the only one who can't spell it correctly.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Music
(Post 11738795)
What the the hell would be the point of the family sharing only actually being demos?
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The $$$$ difference is just one piece of the puzzel of questions, concerns and some distrust I have with MS & Xbox One.
It's part Kinect, it's part they're pushing the XO as some Media Hub, it's them saying one thing and a few days later changing their stance which could be reversed later on, it's are there going to be enough units at launch since Gamestop has stopped taking orders....there just seems to be a far more "what if's" than I care to have at this point. I just don't see that with the PS4 as much. |
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Originally Posted by mhg83
(Post 11738471)
When we keep hearing Discostu post about how MS needs to change things in order to save the industry, I had to google how much they made last year and
Xbox 360 Has Generated $56 Billion In Retail Alone :lol: It is a massive industry, but there are some problems with it. Revenues are way up in total, but so are development costs. Much like the movie industry, we are seeing fewer and fewer mid-tier games. |
re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
Originally Posted by Mr. Music
(Post 11738795)
What the the hell would be the point of the family sharing only actually being demos?
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At some point MS will get its belly rubbed and balls licked for saving the industry. Gotta kick 'em before you lick 'em.
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I just think it is nice to see video game talk get so much activity....maybe we can finally move to the top of the entertainment discussions threads and take our place above book talk...
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Any press is good press, right?
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I don't think the $100 cost differerence will amount to anything in the long run. PS3 started out more expensive and has caught up.
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Except that despite being even in sales now, it is widely believed they lost this generation by a wide margin.
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Originally Posted by orangecrush
(Post 11738844)
I don't think the $100 cost differerence will amount to anything in the long run. PS3 started out more expensive and has caught up.
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The PS3 has sold 77.7m units, the Xbox 360 has sold 77.6m, worldwide.
But what matters is 'murica. Where the Xbox 360 is still ahead by 17.25m.
Originally Posted by chess
(Post 11738867)
PS3 caught up because it had better exclusive titles. There's absolutely zero reason to think that will be the case from Microsoft.
The PS3 however has Japan. And some titles are just more associated with the Playstation. Unsurprisingly, the #1 selling game on the PS3 was Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 (12.74m sold), and the #1 selling game on the Xbox 360 was Kinect Adventures (#2 was Modern Warfare 3 with 14.95m sold) |
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
(Post 11738864)
Except that despite being even in sales now, it is widely believed they lost this generation by a wide margin.
Despite being free, their online gaming interface was nigh unusable until 2008 or so, and they came into this generation with much the same kind of bravado and corporate double-speak that MS is coming in with now. But they did win the HD disk format war in the process, so from their standpoint, maybe it's a wash. |
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