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Rules: You must watch your assigned film (any issues with that, see below) during the month of September and post about it here. You can have a full review, a link to a review, or just say you watched it. Of those who complete their film, I will select 3 winners. These winners will be PMed and must tell me their shipping address by October 10th. I will then send you your Blu-ray prize packs.
Name (alphabetical)-----Film-----Platform
alyxstarr-----In the Mouth of Madness COMPLETE
BobO'Link-----Halloween 1978 COMPLETE
Cardsfan111-----Dawn of the Dead 1978-----YouTube COMPLETE
Clckworang-----The Fog 1980 COMPLETE
Crocker Jarman-----Deep Blood-----Tubi COMPLETE
Darkgod-----Hausu/House 1978-----HBOMAX COMPLETE
Darth Maher-----The Thing 1982 (40th Anniversary) COMPLETE
Dimension X-----28 Days Later (20th Anniversary)-----HBOMAX COMPLETE
EdTheRipper----The Mist-----Netflix COMPLETE
Fist of Doom Jr-----Troll Hunter-----Prime, Kanopy COMPLETE
fiver-----Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child----- HBOMAX COMPLETE
Gobear-----Halloween III (40th Anniversary) COMPLETE
hbsvb-----The Cell-----Hoopla COMPLETE
Indiephantom-----Train to Busan-----Prime, Tubi, Shudder COMPELTE
jholmes-----28 Days Later (20th Anniversary)-----HBOMAX COMPLETE
lrend-----The Cell-----Hoopla COMPLETE
Mallratcal-----Dracula 1958-----HBOMAX COMPLETE
Mrcellophane-----The Fog 1980 COMPLETE
Numbercrunch-----Troll 2-----Tubi, Pluto, Hoopla COMPLETE
Orlmac-----Species II-----Tubi, Pluto COMPLETE
Shack-----The Exorcist-----HBOMAX COMPLETE
Shadokitty-----Mon Mon Mon Monsters COMPLETE
Shellebelle-----Witchboard-----Tubi, Shout! Factory, Shudder COMPLETE
Spiderbite-----Witchboard 2-----Tubi, Shout! Factory, Shudder COMPLETE
Sterling Ben------The Night Eats the World-----Tubi, Prime, Peacock COMPLETE
Tbone22-----Halloween III (40th Anniversary) COMPLETE
Toddarino-----The Night Eats the World-----Tubi, Prime, Peacock COMPLETE
Travis McClain-----Species II-----Tubi, Pluto COMPLETE
Trevor-----Troll 2-----Tubi, Pluto, Hoopla COMPLETE
Undeadcow-----Dracula 1992 (30th Anniversary)-----YuppTV? COMPLETE
Voorheshulk-----Death Spa-----Tubi COMPLETE
WillieMLF-----Prince of Darkness COMPLETE

How you watch your film is up to you. I'm not asking questions .If you cannot watch your assigned film for financial reasons (some are rental only) or just really don't want to spend $3 for a shot at winning some Blu-rays, let me know and I'll assign you another film (likely not from the previously-posted list). I cannot legally obligate you to spend money on this and I also ethically won't do it.

P.S. Streaming Platforms are as of August 30th. I don't know what will change in Spetember, but you can always take a look at https://www.justwatch.com/

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Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 18: Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checklist)

I watched Halloween III, my assigned film, tonight. I love this movie, although 40 years on 1982 technology seems so antique. Tom Atkin's character has to make phone calls on landlines and pay phones--the plot would have been shortened significantly if he had an iPhone. Also, killing children by sending a signal over broadcast TV to activate a chip from Stonehenge inside Halloween masks? Nobody watches legacy TV anymore. Conal Cochran would have to play King Herod via a cursed mask challenge on TikTok.

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I watched The Exorcist, my assigned film, tonight, for the who-knows-how-many-times. I can always enjoy so much about it, but this time I was struck by the detail in which it portrays everyday things: the noise of the trains, the challenge of exterminating vermin in a house, the joy of talking about going to the movies. It's very possible I will revisit this film and its sequels next month, but I appreciate the prompt to do so today.
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I think this has been discussed previous years, but I can’t remember the answer. Are there any other Hitchcock’s that could be considered horror besides Psycho and the Birds? I was thinking Frenzy, Rope or Dial M For Murder. IMDB only lists the first two.
I’m on a kick right now and just wondering if I should save some for the challenge.
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Originally Posted by Toddarino View Post
I think this has been discussed previous years, but I can’t remember the answer. Are there any other Hitchcock’s that could be considered horror besides Psycho and the Birds? I was thinking Frenzy, Rope or Dial M For Murder. IMDB only lists the first two.
I’m on a kick right now and just wondering if I should save some for the challenge.
This was what we decided on for the 2020 checklist entry. I think there one more that was debatable.
EDIT: It was Dial M for Murder.


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Thanks! Now I remember that silhouette.
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Originally Posted by Toddarino View Post
I think this has been discussed previous years, but I can’t remember the answer. Are there any other Hitchcock’s that could be considered horror besides Psycho and the Birds? I was thinking Frenzy, Rope or Dial M For Murder. IMDB only lists the first two.
I’m on a kick right now and just wondering if I should save some for the challenge.
That long tracking shot in Frenzy still gives me the creeps.
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I watched my movie, Species II today, for the first and the last time. I wouldn't want to knock a movie if someone else likes it but I feel sorry for Travis and anyone else that has to watch it. Maybe we can do this again next year and I'll get lucky and get a better movie to watch, but I still enjoyed participating in the September portion of the challenge. I hope that everyone else that still has their movie to watch will enjoy themselves!
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i have that species box set . i was gonna watch it for the October Challenge
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i have that species box set . i was gonna watch it for the October Challenge
You see, that is why they make movies. It may be that everybody loves Species II but me. It wouldn't surprise me.
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I watched my movie, Species II today, for the first and the last time. I wouldn't want to knock a movie if someone else likes it but I feel sorry for Travis and anyone else that has to watch it. Maybe we can do this again next year and I'll get lucky and get a better movie to watch, but I still enjoyed participating in the September portion of the challenge. I hope that everyone else that still has their movie to watch will enjoy themselves!
Species II was one of the "bullets" in the roulette aspect of the watch. Although I'm with you that I'll likely never watch it again, I did have a little bit of fun going along for the ride of its stupidity
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I watched my movie, Species II today, for the first and the last time. I wouldn't want to knock a movie if someone else likes it but I feel sorry for Travis and anyone else that has to watch it. Maybe we can do this again next year and I'll get lucky and get a better movie to watch, but I still enjoyed participating in the September portion of the challenge. I hope that everyone else that still has their movie to watch will enjoy themselves!
I own a copy of it (IIRC it's in a set of all of them)... but couldn't tell you anything about it as it's been too long since I watched it... possibly because I've blocked the memory...
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I watched my assigned Sept film, 28 Days Later.

I had forgotten a lot of this. Great pandemic set-up with Cililan Murphy waking up in the hospital to find London deserted. He connects with a woman and a father and daughter and they drive towards what they think will be a soldiered haven. I liked that the zombie attacks weren't constant. There was some leisure and relationship-building. Once at the compound, it turns out some nasty survivor mindset is in place and it's not safe after all. I remember the zombie effects were super impressive when this first came out and it holds up pretty well.
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All theme/subset dates have been assigned as of a few minutes ago. Belated thanks to both tarfrimmer and Undeadcow for the help.

-Through sheer coincidence and excluding Halloween, all the themes with 2 or more subsets are back to back to back (15th-17th).

-Like last year the mass marathon is the day after Joe Bob's Halloween special. This year it's paired up with slashers instead of the usual book theme.

-Anthologies share the same day as last year (10/28).

-Links will be on the table.

Let me know if there's anything that needs rearranging, but please do so as soon as possible because I need all dates assigned to continue forward with the theme/subset table and subset threads, and both are coming along nicely.

https://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/6...l#post14132559
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I feel guilty about it, but as with several years past, I don't have as much time as I used to, and will probably ignore subsets, checklists, etc. due to not wanting to spend time hunting down 30+ movies and not having the money to do so as well. I do appreciate the organizers for the challenge, but kind of just wanting to lay back and watch what I want this October. My girlfriend and I broke up earlier this year and this will be my first challenge in 3 years where I'm "free" to watch as a I like. Looking forward to this year's challenge immensely.
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All theme/subset dates have been assigned as of a few minutes ago.
Looks good to me! Very helpful in organizing my spreadsheet. I'm getting there! I am ordering a few DVDs/BR. Found a DVD of Le Main Due Diable (1943) on ebay. Supposedly it has English subtitles and is region 0, so hopefully it will work. Ordering a few other for interesting category fillers.

Halloween is in the air!

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I'm finalizing my list. I've got most of the checklist covered except the directors category still seems pretty light in terms of more watchable offerings. The deceased list is slim this year in the director category (a good thing). Will more directors be added? There are still 4 ??? slots.

Some suggestions:
Jordan Peele (used before, I know)
Fulci (or another giallo director)
Tod Browning
Reginald Le Borg https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0494110/...ov_dr#director
Phil Karlson (https://www.imdb.com/filmosearch/?ex...&genres=Horror)

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Watched my September movie today. It wasn't that scary (actually, it wasn't scary at all) or else I've become jaded since doing the challenge! But it wasn't a bad movie. Tawny Kitaen was not bad in it as a possessed evil entity from an Ouija board. A few dead bodies from the evil entity, but a pretty much a tame horror movie. It's not a bad movie for the Ouija category on the check list. Also a good movie to use when you need a "soft" horror movie to break up all the slasher/giallo movies being watched next month. I rather enjoyed it and will probably watch it again in a few years.
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I'm finalizing my list. I've got most of the checklist covered except the directors category still seems pretty light in terms of more watchable offerings. The deceased list is slim this year in the director category (a good thing). Will more directors be added? There are still 4 ??? slots.

Some suggestions:
Jordan Peele (used before, I know)
Fulci (or another giallo director)
Tod Browning
Reginald Le Borg https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0494110/...ov_dr#director
Phil Karlson (https://www.imdb.com/filmosearch/?ex...&genres=Horror)
Yes! I had to take a brief hiatus but currently working on it now. I'm trying to get a good mix of the newer and the older, and hopefully a few we haven't covered in years. And unless there's any request for more additions I should have it completed fairly soon.

Also, I was gonna ask for some more director, composer, and makeup effects artists that we haven't yet covered.
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Hey Chad, just letting you know that the slashers 2 link is for a Japanese porn site.
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Hey Chad, just letting you know that the slashers 2 link is for a Japanese porn site.
Thanks for the head's up. Links 2 and 3 have been updated with a Letterboxd list with just under 900 entries and a much smaller Mubi list. That's surprisingly not the first time a Japanese porn site has taken over one of our links, and it probably won't be the last.

Also added a 1980s only list for link 4:
https://letterboxd.com/jhillman/list...lm-an-attempt/

And a 1990s only list for link 5:
https://www.listchallenges.com/the-c...f-90s-slashers
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Watched The Fog, my assigned film, this evening. It's one of my favorite of John Carpenter's movies even though it's a bit messy. (NIa DaCosta pointed out some of the movie's oddities when she guested on an episode of the Blank Check podcast.) Adrienne Barbeau is fantastic as Stevie; it's probably my favorite of her performances... or second - I love her in Carnivale.
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Everyone, the picks for the September Halloween Giveaway are up! You can find them in the wiki of this thread.
Darth Maher-----The Thing 1982 (40th Anniversary)
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Oh hell yeah! I've been meaning to watch this again for the longest time. I might splurge and get the 4K UHD just for the occasion. If not, I always have the pre-SF Blu-ray. It may not be the best PQ presentation, but it will do in a pinch.
I watched The Thing tonight. It was just the plain old Blu-ray disc but it still looks great. I haven't watched it in quite a while (probably right around when the 2011 version was being released) but I still love it.

Thanks for such a great pick IBJoel !!
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Watched The Fog, my assigned film, this evening. It's one of my favorite of John Carpenter's movies even though it's a bit messy. (NIa DaCosta pointed out some of the movie's oddities when she guested on an episode of the Blank Check podcast.) Adrienne Barbeau is fantastic as Stevie; it's probably my favorite of her performances... or second - I love her in Carnivale.
Loved Carnivale. Still pissed at HBO for cancelling it after two seasons and leaving so much unresolved. With so many TV shows getting rebooted and Nick Stahl back to acting after his drug/alcohol issues I'm still holding out hope for a third season.
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Watched The Fog, my assigned film, this evening. It's one of my favorite of John Carpenter's movies even though it's a bit messy. (NIa DaCosta pointed out some of the movie's oddities when she guested on an episode of the Blank Check podcast.) Adrienne Barbeau is fantastic as Stevie; it's probably my favorite of her performances... or second - I love her in Carnivale.
Ugh she was such a killjoy on that episode. I liked her other episode too, so it was a huge disappointment
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I watched my random pick last night, Witchboard 2: The Devil's Doorway (1993) which IBJoel let me switch to from the first Witchboard.

Gotta say, I liked this better than the first Witchboard (1986) which had the same writer and director, Kevin Tenney, (not to be confused with Witchtrap [1989] which also had the same writer/director but is better than both of the Witchboards).

Anyway...I went into it dreading it, but it was much better than I had anticipated. Ami Dolenz is the cutest thing in the world and has a lot of spunk and charm. Laraine Newman shows up out of nowhere as a sincere, out of touch hippie who is stuck in 1969 and does a good job with a nothing part. While the rest of the unknowns actually make this dumb, slightly dull, non-scary story work. There is an appearance by the skanky blonde from Road House who shows up as an angry brunette but no boobies as you might expect. Actually, there is pretty much no gore and zero nudity in this film which is surprising for a movie of this caliber. But at the same time, the practical effects are very well done with some terrific car stunts and good camera work. I was thinking while watching it that this type of low budget movie would get made now but it would use wall to wall cheap CG and wouldn't look half as good.

Look for a Phantasm rip-off shot of a flying saw blade that was funny but also decently done.

I likely saw this on VHS near 30 years ago but had no memory of it. Enjoyable time waster and a perfect one to get you in the mood for next month.

My rating: *** out of *****

ps. This is likely a generous rating due to going in with poor expectations and itching for some horror which I have been holding out on for months now waiting on October and the Challenge. If you choose to check it out, go in with low expectations and know that other than one jump scare, there is little horrific in it. Almost more a supernatural thriller than horror.

Thanks to IBJoel for putting this on. Makes me even more anxious for October to start. I may have to check out Witchboard III: The Possession (1995) now...even though it appears that it is even worse than the first two from what I have read. (same writer for the screenplay but different director)
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