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I was on the fence until the price point announcement. I think I'll sit out next gen for a while and work through my current gen backlog instead.

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I believe it will hit the One first, then come out on the PC and 360 later. No PS4.

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That's how they should market it.

"Only $150 more than a Wii U, and with games you'll actually want to play!"

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I don't think that $499 seems nearly as expensive now as it did when PS3 launched. How many 16 GB Ipads have sold at that price?

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There is no way in hell the PS4 will launch at $399. The amount of money they would lose per console would be way too high. It costs much more than the Xbox One does to manufacture. $499 these days isn't too bad, given the amount of hardware they are packing into it.

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Wasn't that the deluxe edition with R.O.B.? I think there was a system only version (with Super Mario Bros.) for $100 or thereabouts. I can't remember now.

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The subsidized model worked well for 360. Strange they wouldn't have gone that way with this and had it at $300.

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No changes here. Xbox one purchase at launch, PS4 purchase at a later date for their exclusives. PS3 it's only used for BLU-RAYS and the same again... oh wait X1 has a blu-ray player now...

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I'm surprised they don't have a subsidized model either. Maybe they'll announce it later on as a partnership with specific retailers...

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Not to mention how the $499 PS3 didn't have WIFI even, along with some other functionality. Had to pony up for the $599 one for those features.

Of course PS3 had the advantage of being not only the cheapest Blu-ray player (by around $500), it was also the best at the time.

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Yeah, I don't think $499 is perceived as expensive as it was 7 years ago -- a lot has changed in that time.

It's $100 more than the best launch Xbox 360 and $100 less than the best launch PS3.

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Titanfall looks like a blast. Really excited for Xbox One. Its a day one purchase for me. Excited to see what Sony has to show too!!

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Why would the PS4 cost "much more" than the One to manufacture? It has slightly higher specs, but doesn't have the Kinect unit.

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It was the deluxe version...maybe ROB was spying on us too!

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It shouldn't, it basically runs on completely identical hardware.

They're both running Octa-core AMD Jaguar processors, using AMD Radeons rumored to be around the 7790, both have 8 GB of RAM (One is DDR3, the other is GDDR5), etc.

Does the PS4 come with the new Eye camera?

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The only thing I can think of is GDDR5 is significantly more expensive.

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I pre-ordered.

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The memory the PS4 decided to go with is uber-expensive.

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Considering the stupid new kinect is a mandatory bundle, I really don't think $499 is all that bad either. If they would have sold it separately, it would have cost around $150. So assuming Sony doesn't bundle their's in, there should be no reason why they can't come in at $349 - $399.

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What's so great about it?

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If Sony is less restrictive with DRM then I can see them matching the price for the Xbox.

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I've never seen GDDR5 for sale on its own, what is the cost? I know graphic cards with multiple gigs are pricey but the RAM is probably the cheapest aspect of em. The most common prices I see is roughly $10 - $20 per gig.

GDDR5 has a slightly higher latency (nothing you'd notice) but substantially higher bandwidth than the DDR3 being used in the Xbox 360.

The Xbox 360 is literally a HTPC (x86, Radeon, DDR3), the PS4 can still say it's something else since no other computers really run off GDDR5, that's usually reserved for graphics cards.

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Thanks for the info!

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I gotta agree with this. It looks like a fun game, but it doesn't look like Dead Rising... like they focus-tested in with teenage boys and as a result 'mainstreamed' it into a more 'market-friendly' title. It has the same color palette and overall 'look' of a lot of other stuff out there. It also seems like firearms play a bigger role this time. For me, the most fun I had in the first two was doing silly stuff like putting Lego heads on zombies and bashing them with stuffed animals.

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Preorder also up at Microsoft site.