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re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
Guys, this was Microsoft's plan all along. They were waiting for this moment to get the "complete story" out there.
Microsoft’s eyebrow-raising reversal of its Xbox One DRM policies has been in the works for some time, corporate vice president of Xbox Marc Whitten has said, but Microsoft wanted to tell the “complete story” before it made such a dramatic public reversal. Speaking to Polygon, Whitten agreed that public opinion – cited by Xbox executive Don Mattrick as the primary motivator for the changes – has been strongly against DRM policies ever since they were first hinted at during the Xbox One reveal. “What we wanted to do was tell our complete story,” Whitten said of the delay in letting gamers know things had changed. “We knew our complete story was partially told at the Xbox One unveil and partially told at E3. We wanted to put our story out there and show the great games we have coming. We did that and people gave us a ton of feedback.” The “complete story” included a number of features which, thanks to today’s reversal, have been thrown out the window – sharing your games library with up to nine other household members; taking your full games library to a friend’s house just by logging in on their machine; and the ability to play without a disc. These conveniences weren’t enough to keep gamers on side, it seems, so Microsoft has returned to a more conservative model. There are some positive changes though, notably that the console will be region-free, but also should you take your disc to a friend’s house and install it there, they have the option to purchase it after you leave, saving them the hassle of getting their own disc; it will be as if they bought it from Xbox Live. It’s worth remembering that the DRM changes don’t make the Xbox One an offline console; games which require cloud processing will need an always-on Internet connection, like any MMO or online multiplayer game. “You have to be connected [for cloud processing to work]. All of the things that require the internet will require the console to connect. We want and expect most people to take advantage of those things, but we also want to give people the choice that they can play offline,” Whitten said. Finally, Whitten could not give any reassurance that Microsoft will not change its policies in the future. “There are our policies and we are really excited about them. By adding them we have shown that we are definitly listening,” he said. http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/19/xbox...omplete-story/ |
re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
Microsoft. New PR Team. STAT.
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re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
:lol: Poor Microsoft. They were really looking out for us, and we shunned them. They really had a vision for our future...the guys who brought us pay for play, proprietary hard drives, proprietary headsets, and $100 wifi adapters really had our best interest at heart.
Rest assured, if it had been the other way around and Sony had done what MS did, everyone would feel the exact same way. But they chose to let digital distribution grow naturally through consumer choice and it looked like they might be rewarded for it. I suspect diehards will migrate back now though. |
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Originally Posted by RichC2
(Post 11737004)
Want family sharing? Buy the game through digital distribution.
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PS: Windows 8 can eat a dick.
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They should really just stop talking.
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re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
Originally Posted by chess
(Post 11737034)
PS: Windows 8 can eat a dick.
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Finally, Whitten could not give any reassurance that Microsoft will not change its policies in the future
THIS...if they can make such a drastic change like this in the short time between now and E3 when shit hit the fan....just what might happen between now and launch or even 2-3 year later on. Flip the switch off..can flip it right back on. |
re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
Originally Posted by discostu1337
(Post 11737032)
We don't know if this will actually happen though. By all accounts, the sharing is gone. The second little interview/blurb did mention "not available at launch" but the official statement and all news outlets report that it is gone for good.
Plus the official write-up was by Don Mattrick, I wouldn't invest too much in that just yet. |
re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
Originally Posted by RichC2
(Post 11737040)
Then that's on Microsoft. That is something that would be easy to implement for downloaded titles.
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Originally Posted by discostu1337
(Post 11737041)
I have hope that you are correct, but still doesn't solve the larger issue of gaming companies dying off and shittier games.
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Some Cliffy B tweets for you all. Love him or hate him, he makes a lot of valid points and knows his shit with 20+ years in the business.
"More studios WILL close and you’ll see more PC and mobile games. I have seen the number of unique gamer tags vs actual sales numbers and it ain’t pretty. At the end of the day many hardcore dislike what was attempted. You can’t do well in that space with many of your core unhappy… Especially when users have a choice. The nature of capitalism encourages competition and Sony played into that. Brace yourselves. More tacked on multiplayer and DLC are coming. You’re also about to see available microtransactions skyrocket. HATS FOR EVERYONE. I want developers who worked their pants off to see money on every copy of their game that is sold instead of Gamestop. Sony forced Microsoft’s hand, not the internet whining." |
re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
Originally Posted by RichC2
(Post 11737044)
Nothing solves that issue.
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Of course that brings up the debate of how much used games are "devastating" the industry.
I am curious how much the fee was. It only cost us the ability to get a fair resale price on our used games. There are a lot of shitty titles out there, most genuinely good, appealing titles tend to sell fairly well. But it is a ridiculously flooded market place, any way you slice it. |
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Originally Posted by discostu1337
(Post 11737046)
The original plan did, DRM does. Developers get the money, they make games. Gamestop gets the money, developers stop making games. Pretty simple. The original plan had GS paying a fee to allow trades, consumers paid nothing. It was a win/win.
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"Cliffy B" can eat a dick too.
Gamestop is a terrible company, but their trading and selling games is part of an ecosystem that sells more new games than people would buy otherwise...far more. And if he thinks this scheme by MS was going to slow down microtransactions and DLC, he needs to put down the crack pipe. |
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:up: to Cliffy B for me, but i'm biased.
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Originally Posted by pinata242
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Fixed that for you. It's all about deprecation and I've got my money's worth. I do use it for HBO Go (well, until today when my AppleTV got it natively), the occasional gaming session with my friends (a few times a month, not every day), and the rare sale I like (which is over now that things aren't forward-compatible).
I also saved a shitload on product by converting real money to cheap-as-dirt MSP and then using those on discounted games. That's over too. So, in conclusion, I'm not mad about paying $3/month for 5 years for online gaming and other services. It's always worked, always been fast, had features the competition didn't (or couldn't offer architecturally), and it's where all my cronies played. Similarly, I'm not mad that I bought thousands of dollars of digital content for a fraction of the "retail" cost over the life of the subscription. I am slightly upset that I can't "take it with me", so to speak, but I understandt "take it with me", so to speak, but I understand the technical reasons too and it makes my decision to not jump into their next generation automatically that much easier. |
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Holy shit, I have never seen a thread so full of thread crappers... what a bunch of ridiculous dicks...
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:lol: Yeah this thread has been one giant threadcrap since E3, but at least it's been flame retardant.
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Originally Posted by chess
(Post 11737055)
"Cliffy B" can eat a dick too.
Gamestop is a terrible company, but their trading and selling games is part of an ecosystem that sells more new games than people would buy otherwise...far more. And if he thinks this scheme by MS was going to slow down microtransactions and DLC, he needs to put down the crack pipe. |
Re: Xbox One: This Thread Requires An Always On Internet Connection
Originally Posted by Supermallet
(Post 11736782)
Thread title updated. If Groucho has something wittier, he is welcome to change it again.
It's a madhouse!!! http://www.worldoflongmire.com/featu...6/madhouse.jpg |
re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
Originally Posted by Mr. Music
(Post 11737089)
Holy shit, I have never seen a thread so full of thread crappers... what a bunch of ridiculous dicks...
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