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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
My memory isn't THAT great, so that specific point may be... off. I'll find it. I swear I will!
I do know that there are definitely components in a PC where MS has their own drivers and the manufacture also obviously provides different drivers. In those cases, the MS drivers are usually not as good... but I'm sure they said otherwise with Signature PCs. Still searching... |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
I like Arstechnica, but that article is pretty bad and doesn't provide much of a rebuttal or any worthwhile information at all. Inflammatory journalism.
That said, I can also believe that there might be that 50% gap right now in performance if the driver stuff is true. I trust flashburn enough to take his word for it on this matter. That's not to say I also don't expect Microsoft to improve that considerably, maybe not well enough for launch titles, but down the road I imagine the difference would be fairly negligible to all except 1st party games. And yeah, Signature PC's didn't mean jack. I thought it was pretty much just no manufacturer bloatware. |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by chess
(Post 11832748)
A week ago?
Do you mean this "undisclosed developer" from People Can Fly, and how was it "debunked"? http://i.imgur.com/D1GeI13.png FWIW, I recall reading somewhere that John Carmack said both systems are nearly identical. I'd believe comments from a guy like him far more than "unnamed sources." |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by Dan
(Post 11832804)
My memory isn't THAT great, so that specific point may be... off. I'll find it. I swear I will!
I do know that there are definitely components in a PC where MS has their own drivers and the manufacture also obviously provides different drivers. In those cases, the MS drivers are usually not as good... but I'm sure they said otherwise with Signature PCs. Still searching... |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Chess only supports sources that validate his purchase.
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Article makes claim that Sony/PS4 is superior = gospel and should be believed as absolute fact.
Article makes claim that MS/XB1 is superior or that Sony/PS4 has some shortcoming = obviously biased MS fanboy article that should be dismissed. Haven't you been following along? ;) |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by chuckd21
(Post 11832811)
Chess only supports sources that validate his purchase.
I'm more irritated that we haven't seen the same game running on both consoles yet. |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Also, don't forget, if anyone at Microsoft says anything, they're lying company line toting jerks. But if a Sony guy says something on Twitter and includes a smiley face you can take that to the bank!
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by RichC2
(Post 11832815)
You have two consoles that are basically identical, one is $399, one is $499. Purchase validated.
I'm more irritated that we haven't seen the same game running on both consoles yet. I'd like to see ANY game running on either console at this point. Hell, have we seen so much as a screenshot of next gen Madden? |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by Canis Firebrand
(Post 11832814)
Article makes claim that Sony/PS4 is superior = gospel and should be believed as absolute fact.
Article makes claim that MS/XB1 is superior or that Sony/PS4 has some shortcoming = obviously biased MS fanboy article that should be dismissed. Haven't you been following along? ;) |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by chuckd21
(Post 11832816)
Also, don't forget, if anyone at Microsoft says anything, they're lying company line toting jerks. But if a Sony guy says something on Twitter and includes a smiley face you can take that to the bank!
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Fortunately, we'll get the comparisons when both systems are out. Madden/BF4/COD:Ghosts/AC4 will all have side by sides. Then we can see what is what. Until then, speculating on anything, using stupid "anonymous sources" is fucking absurd.
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by chuckd21
(Post 11832817)
But I want to make sure that the console in port 1 of my HDMI hub is vastly superior to the console in port 2.
I'd like to see ANY game running on either console at this point. Hell, have we seen so much as a screenshot of next gen Madden? I can't really tell what they're doing either, unless it just isn't much of an upgrade over the current gen? Cock and balls. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/-VWVSwEtJQU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by chuckd21
(Post 11832817)
Hell, have we seen so much as a screenshot of next gen Madden?
Madden on PS4: http://static.nfl.com/static/content...allery_600.jpg Madden on Xbox One: http://static.nfl.com/static/content...allery_600.jpg You be the judge! |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by RichC2
(Post 11832829)
So plug a Wii U into port 2 and save port 1 and 3 for the One and PS4.
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Can you make it a rollover comparison please?
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
I like Madden's sweet leathery sack.
Wait... |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by fumanstan
(Post 11832806)
And yeah, Signature PC's didn't mean jack. I thought it was pretty much just no manufacturer bloatware.
Spoiler:
Point is, with what MS did with Signature PCs, they're doing with all of their services, and optimizing that philosophy for Xbox One. Vista was a disaster in terms of performance, and Win 7 and Win 8 have both -reduced- the minimum hardware requirements, based purely on the core software. That doesn't mean I think Xbox One will perform 50% better than the PS4. That's dumb. But Sony's "optimization" of Android (as one example) doesn't exactly give me warm and fuzzies about actual performance. |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by Deftones
(Post 11832808)
so wait, let me get this straight. in the past, someone posted a blog-type article that shed negative light on the PS4. you shot it down, claiming it wasn't journalism.
FWIW, I recall reading somewhere that John Carmack said both systems are nearly identical. I'd believe comments from a guy like him far more than "unnamed sources." |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by chess
(Post 11832887)
As do I. Carmack is scary smart, and I hope he's right, because I'd hate for one console to hold the other back on crossplatform games. :up:
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by Dan
(Post 11832804)
My memory isn't THAT great, so that specific point may be... off. I'll find it. I swear I will!
I do know that there are definitely components in a PC where MS has their own drivers and the manufacture also obviously provides different drivers. In those cases, the MS drivers are usually not as good... but I'm sure they said otherwise with Signature PCs. Still searching... |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Yup. Thanks, flashburn. :)
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by fumanstan
(Post 11832806)
That said, I can also believe that there might be that 50% gap right now in performance if the driver stuff is true. I trust flashburn enough to take his word for it on this matter. That's not to say I also don't expect Microsoft to improve that considerably, maybe not well enough for launch titles, but down the road I imagine the difference would be fairly negligible to all except 1st party games.
I'd rather people trusted me less (if that's possible!), else I might get into trouble. It's more fun for me this way anyway. |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by flashburn
(Post 11832918)
Hell, I think they'll work out the majority of the issues before launch even, I was just trying to shed some light about WHY they might be seeing such a vast difference in performance.
I'd rather people trusted me less (if that's possible!), else I might get into trouble. It's more fun for me this way anyway. |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
I'm curious as to implementing and upgrading the drivers later on. Since the OS is a kernel version of WIN 8 are these drivers Direct X related? I would think with a mild version of WIN 8 installed as the OS that MS would have some advantage in the driver department...?
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