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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
More hands-on w/ the system, Kinect and controller: http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/09/09...on-impressions
http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/09/09...ize-comparison |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Already disgusted by that bro's shirt.
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
I never noticed the random USB port on the side of the console.
OMG VENTS |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by Dan
(Post 11827237)
hmm. no PS4 to compare it to? hmm. ;)
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
So apparently the worst thing about the system, according to Abercrombie guy, is that the shoulder buttons make noise.
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
It annoys me that they removed the streaming feature. It was huge among HTPC enthusiasts. I used it a lot at the beginning, but then liked the PS3 functionality better.
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by Raul3
(Post 11827526)
It annoys me that they removed the streaming feature. It was huge among HTPC enthusiasts. I used it a lot at the beginning, but then liked the PS3 functionality better.
Still, at least once a month I use my Xbox 360 for streaming video or music. |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
so now that i've seen the new controller better, it seems like there are 2 sensors/lights up on either side in the red plastic up by the "home" button. anyone else notice that?
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
IR sensors that work with the Kinect so it can see the controllers.
Much better than the light on the DS4... at least visually :) |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by Music
(Post 11827555)
IR sensors that work with the Kinect so it can see the controllers.
Much better than the light on the DS4... at least visually :) |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
MS confirmed today that the HD-DVD drive will not work with the One. :lol:
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
But could you daisy chain it through the 360 using the HDMI in on the One?
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
A recent post from Albert Penello about system specs being incorrect and blown out of proportion. Sounds like all the PS4 has is "18 CU's vs. 12 CU's" but theirs are slightly slower. Again, like he says though, it's more about optimizing the software than having slightly faster hardware. *I'm no PC nerd so I really don't know what a lot of this means, just posting what the man said*
"So, here are couple of points about some of the individual parts for people to consider: • 18 CU's vs. 12 CU's =/= 50% more performance. Multi-core processors have inherent inefficiency with more CU's, so it's simply incorrect to say 50% more GPU. • Adding to that, each of our CU's is running 6% faster. It's not simply a 6% clock speed increase overall. • We have more memory bandwidth. 176gb/sec is peak on paper for GDDR5. Our peak on paper is 272gb/sec. (68gb/sec DDR3 + 204gb/sec on ESRAM). ESRAM can do read/write cycles simultaneously so I see this number mis-quoted. • We have at least 10% more CPU. Not only a faster processor, but a better audio chip also offloading CPU cycles. • We understand GPGPU and its importance very well. Microsoft invented Direct Compute, and have been using GPGPU in a shipping product since 2010 - it's called Kinect. • Speaking of GPGPU - we have 3X the coherent bandwidth for GPGPU at 30gb/sec which significantly improves our ability for the CPU to efficiently read data generated by the GPU. Hopefully with some of those more specific points people will understand where we have reduced bottlenecks in the system. I'm sure this will get debated endlessly but at least you can see I'm backing up my points. I still I believe that we get little credit for the fact that, as a SW company, the people designing our system are some of the smartest graphics engineers around – they understand how to architect and balance a system for graphics performance. Each company has their strengths, and I feel that our strength is overlooked when evaluating both boxes." |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by discostu1337
(Post 11827982)
A recent post from Albert Penello about system specs
Originally Posted by Supermallet
(Post 11827964)
But could you daisy chain it through the 360 using the HDMI in on the One?
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Tech specs only matter when the PS4 wins. Otherwise it's just Microsoft PR spin!
That said, it sounds like Microsoft has a few good additional hardware features (some that we didn't hear of before) but require some extra programming and work to take advantage and narrow the gap, so as much as they want to trumpet them, it sure seems like it might not exactly a given for developers. I like seeing the tech discussion and specs like that though as a tech guy. :) |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
I fully expect a repeat of the current gen where 99% of games look and play the same on both systems. It's not like we're going to see luscious 3D graphics on one and Atari 3600 blocks on the other.
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Yeah, and actually, I think the same game on different consoles will be even more similar than they were on this gen, since the two consoles will be more similar to program for than the last two were.
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by fumanstan
(Post 11828003)
Tech specs only matter when the PS4 wins. Otherwise it's just Microsoft PR spin!
That said, it sounds like Microsoft has a few good additional hardware features (some that we didn't hear of before) but require some extra programming and work to take advantage and narrow the gap, so as much as they want to trumpet them, it sure seems like it might not exactly a given for developers. I like seeing the tech discussion and specs like that though as a tech guy. :) |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Maybe this has been asked.....will it play my 3D blu rays or will that be my ps4?
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by discostu1337
(Post 11827982)
A recent post from Albert Penello about system specs being incorrect and blown out of proportion. Sounds like all the PS4 has is "18 CU's vs. 12 CU's" but theirs are slightly slower. Again, like he says though, it's more about optimizing the software than having slightly faster hardware. *I'm no PC nerd so I really don't know what a lot of this means, just posting what the man said*
"So, here are couple of points about some of the individual parts for people to consider: • 18 CU's vs. 12 CU's =/= 50% more performance. Multi-core processors have inherent inefficiency with more CU's, so it's simply incorrect to say 50% more GPU. • Adding to that, each of our CU's is running 6% faster. It's not simply a 6% clock speed increase overall. • We have more memory bandwidth. 176gb/sec is peak on paper for GDDR5. Our peak on paper is 272gb/sec. (68gb/sec DDR3 + 204gb/sec on ESRAM). ESRAM can do read/write cycles simultaneously so I see this number mis-quoted. • We have at least 10% more CPU. Not only a faster processor, but a better audio chip also offloading CPU cycles. • We understand GPGPU and its importance very well. Microsoft invented Direct Compute, and have been using GPGPU in a shipping product since 2010 - it's called Kinect. • Speaking of GPGPU - we have 3X the coherent bandwidth for GPGPU at 30gb/sec which significantly improves our ability for the CPU to efficiently read data generated by the GPU. PS3 was more powerful, hands down yet 360 dominated. Sounds like PS4 is also more powerful and it may not matter either. All that matters is games. |
Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
But the People Can Fly guy said the 360 was more powerful than the PS3...
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by Sgtsnake
(Post 11828078)
Maybe this has been asked.....will it play my 3D blu rays or will that be my ps4?
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
(Post 11828102)
PS3 was more powerful, hands down yet 360 dominated.
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Originally Posted by Music
(Post 11828117)
I thought Chess and others stated otherwise?
In terms of raw computing power in GFLOPS, PS3 is more powerful, but that's misleading because the 360 is more "flexible", for lack of a better word and has an architecture that makes it "faster", again for lack of a better word. Or better yet, what flashburn said. :) |
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