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chess 08-14-13 04:47 PM

Re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
Hard to keep up.

Delays: If you think that's really about "localization", I have a bridge to sell. It's just a good thing the countries making Battlefield, Mirror's Edge, Witcher and Minecraft aren't included.

Promotions to keep you playing on 360 later into the year: Looks customer friendly but is connected to delays in Europe. There are more delays to come, and they can't have you buying a PS4.

The pitch for delays will be "changes for gamers take time"...but really tied to yield problems from putting CPU/GPU/ESRAM on a single large chip. There's an amazing thread about it on NeoGaf with a seemingly legitimate "Deep Throat" who actually posts in code to avoid detection. X1s will be scarce this year...think PS2 launch.


Originally Posted by Phil Spencer
No yield problems. (@XboxP3) <a href="https://twitter.com/XboxP3/statuses/347111086589349888">June 18, 2013

Sure Phil.

Sunday Ticket: For once, I'm sorry to be right...deal would have to be with DTV rather than NFL. Wish somebody would have gotten it though...maybe after DTV contract ends next season. Is it possible MS paid not to get it on their own system but just to get if off of Sony's? Who pays $400M for fantasy football updates?

chuckd21 08-14-13 04:54 PM

Re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
If chess was cold and Microsoft handed him a blanket, he'd immediately post that he's been infected with smallpox.

Matthew Chmiel 08-14-13 05:04 PM

Re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11798986)
If chess was cold and Microsoft handed him a blanket, he'd immediately post that he's been infected with smallpox.

When I'm hands on with both consoles in a few weeks, I'm personally going to take a photo of my penis laid across the PS4 and personally PM it to him.

And then have Sony escort me out of the building and be arrested for indecent exposure, but it will have been worth it for the internet karma as I'll be posting the same thing to Reddit shortly after.

chess 08-14-13 05:05 PM

Re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11798986)
If chess was cold and Microsoft handed him a blanket, he'd immediately post that he's been infected with smallpox.

Love how you guys make it about me and give me a hard time but hardly ever circle back to say "He has a point there..." or "He got that one right..."

I'll stick around to represent whatever foil you need me to, but I refuse to get caught up in the personal aspects of it...even when you attack me rather than what I post.

chess 08-14-13 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11798999)
When I'm hands on with both consoles in a few weeks, I'm personally going to take a photo of my penis laid across the PS4 and personally PM it to him.

http://i.imgur.com/Gn47wXT.gif

Don't forget your zoom lens.

Jay G. 08-14-13 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chess (Post 11798981)
The pitch for delays will be "changes for gamers take time"...but really tied to yield problems from putting CPU/GPU/ESRAM on a single large chip.

If this is true, won't the PS4 suffer from the same yield problems and delays? Or is it the 32MB of eSRAM in the Xbox One that overcomplicates things?

chuckd21 08-14-13 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chess (Post 11799002)
Love how you guys make it about me and give me a hard time but hardly ever circle back to say "He has a point there..." or "He got that one right..."

I'll stick around to represent whatever foil you need me to, but I refuse to get caught up in the personal aspects of it...even when you attack me rather than what I post.

Not attacking you. However the "THEY SAID THIS THEY'RE LYING HERE'S THE TRUTH QUOTE ME" schtick is a little tired.

Jay G. 08-14-13 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chess (Post 11799002)
Love how you guys make it about me and give me a hard time but hardly ever circle back to say "He has a point there..." or "He got that one right..."

We're still waiting for those situations to happen.

Music 08-14-13 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11798999)
When I'm hands on with both consoles in a few weeks, I'm personally going to take a photo of my penis laid across the PS4 and personally PM it to him.

I think you think the PS4 is a lot smaller than it is...

Matthew Chmiel 08-14-13 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Music (Post 11799015)
I think you think the PS4 is a lot smaller than it is...

:rimshot:

chess 08-14-13 05:19 PM

Re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 11799006)
If this is true, won't the PS4 suffer from the same yield problems and delays? Or is it the 32MB of eSRAM in the Xbox One that overcomplicates things?

It's not a matter of overcomplication, but rather a matter of sheer physical space, and yes, it's the ESRAM. I don't claim to be an expert on manufacturing chips, but as I understand it, Sony went with a smaller and simpler design which resulted in more chips per "pressing" and fewer defects. They put their money into a more powerful GPU and unified memory.

There's a brief explanation in the first post of the NeoGaf thread I've been following (but not bringing up because folks do get worked up). http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=576869

Thanks, BTW, for engaging on what I actually posted and not acting like I kicked your dog. :up:

Edit: I say right before you post this:


Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 11799011)
We're still waiting for those situations to happen.

How about Sunday Ticket as a recent example? -ohbfrank-

Dan 08-14-13 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11798999)
I'm personally going to take a photo of my penis laid across the PS4 and personally PM it to him.

rotfl


Originally Posted by Music (Post 11799015)
I think you think the PS4 is a lot smaller than it is...

:lol:

fumanstan 08-14-13 05:20 PM

Re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11798986)
If chess was cold and Microsoft handed him a blanket, he'd immediately post that he's been infected with smallpox.

:lol:


Originally Posted by chess (Post 11799002)
I'll stick around to represent whatever foil you need me to

Pretty sure we don't "need" that, if it were up to us.

chess 08-14-13 05:50 PM

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You guys are hilarious! :lol:

All caps, personal attacks and penises out (literally?) for what? Defense of your chosen corporate consumer electronic device? Only one of you even had the decency to even attempt to discuss an issue that was important enough for the MS Studios VP to address directly. -ohbfrank-

You call me a fanboy, but you'll never catch me this worked up over valid criticism of anything Sony or Nintendo does because I acknowledge when they fuck up, or at a minimum, I try to engage the point the person makes.

Dan 08-14-13 05:53 PM

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Sorry. It's just your persecution complex kicking in. ;)

chess 08-14-13 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan (Post 11799067)
Sorry. It's just our persecution complex kicking in. ;)

Reminds me a little bit of this...I guess I'd be the "other":

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1...x2mao1_400.gif

Dan 08-14-13 06:12 PM

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Sorry. Fixed my post.

fumanstan 08-14-13 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chess (Post 11799066)
You guys are hilarious! :lol:

All caps, personal attacks and penises out (literally?) for what? Defense of your chosen corporate consumer electronic device? Only one of you even had the decency to even attempt to discuss an issue that was important enough for the MS Studios VP to address directly. -ohbfrank-

You call me a fanboy, but you'll never catch me this worked up over valid criticism of anything Sony or Nintendo does because I acknowledge when they fuck up, or at a minimum, I try to engage the point the person makes.


It's like discussing Wii U sales with Gizmo, there's no point in trying. I tried to explain reasonably why you get the responses that you do, but I guess it's more fun for you to continue to act like you're getting persecuted.


Originally Posted by Dan (Post 11799088)
Sorry. Fixed my post.

:lol:

Music 08-14-13 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chess (Post 11799066)
You guys ....

All caps, personal attacks and penises out (literally?) for what? Defense of your chosen corporate consumer electronic device? Only one of you even had the decency to even attempt to discuss an issue that was important enough for the MS Studios VP to address directly. -ohbfrank-
.

What do you mean, you guys?

http://media.tumblr.com/3b88ec70839c...ZEG1qz4rgp.jpg

chess 08-14-13 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11799093)
It's like discussing Wii U sales with Gizmo, there's no point in trying. I tried to explain reasonably why you get the responses that you do, but I guess it's more fun for you to continue to act like you're getting persecuted.

As a point of fact, I'm amused at the levels of loyalty in here. If I felt persecuted, I'd just leave...so try harder, I guess?

MoviePage 08-14-13 06:33 PM

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Maybe it's not so much loyalty as opposition to very obvious trolling no matter the subject?

fumanstan 08-14-13 06:36 PM

Re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 11799103)
As a point of fact, I'm amused at the levels of loyalty in here. If I felt persecuted, I'd just leave...so try harder, I guess?

The loyalty comment is ironic. And you were the one that initially brought up the persecution stuff, so i'm not even sure what you're getting at there.

chess 08-14-13 06:45 PM

Re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
I'm not interested in how much your feelings are hurting fellas, and I'm not interested in a thread about me, so enough of that. Take it up with a mod, if you really think I'm trolling, but I always explain why I think what I think.

I am interested in delays and limited quantities though.

chuckd21 08-14-13 07:04 PM

Re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 11799066)
All caps, personal attacks and penises out (literally?) for what? Defense of your chosen corporate consumer electronic device? Only one of you even had the decency to even attempt to discuss an issue that was important enough for the MS Studios VP to address directly. -ohbfrank-

Why would we discuss anything with you that you've immediately written off as corporate lies. You've then told us the actual truth, squashing any speculation or conversation possible.

Deftones 08-14-13 07:26 PM

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I'm just going to post this here and I think it speaks for itself.



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