Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
#1376
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 5,008
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Marion, IA
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
#1377
Video Game Talk Reviewer
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,512
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
I'm not surprised that Guitar Hero as a whole has been canceled. That's what happens when you get incredibly greedy and constantly release sequels - up to three or four per year. People are going to get sick of the product.
It's just too bad that they've screwed over Harmonix (a much more classy company, which made better music games in my opinion.)
I'm somewhat disappointed that True Crime: Hong Kong was canceled though. It had potential.
It's just too bad that they've screwed over Harmonix (a much more classy company, which made better music games in my opinion.)
I'm somewhat disappointed that True Crime: Hong Kong was canceled though. It had potential.
#1378
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
http://twitter.com/GuitarHero/status/35522467820736512#
Looks like the February pack is going to be the last of the DLC. I haven't really been a fan since Activision/Neversoft took over, but it's kinda crazy for it to just end all of the sudden with no warning whatsoever.
@OneOfSwords We will release the previously announced DLC track and mix packs for February, but we will not be able to release new DLC packs
#1380
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
Woah, that's surprising. (And that's definitely going to hamper sales of their last track pack.)
I can't imagine this will be good for the music game genre at all, but it will be nice if some of the Guitar Hero exclusive tracks are freed up now.
I can't imagine this will be good for the music game genre at all, but it will be nice if some of the Guitar Hero exclusive tracks are freed up now.
#1382
DVD Talk Reviewer/ Admin
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 31,704
Received 2,802 Likes
on
1,863 Posts
From: Greenville, South Cackalack
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
I don't think it's dire for Harmonix, but they will have to get their shit together to survive. Not being part of a massive corporation probably works to their benefit. They get to define success on their terms, but they can't structure themselves like they're gonna sell millions of copies anymore. Gotta be lean, sleek, and efficient. Don't really get the sense that's the current state of things at HMX.
#1383
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
I kind of developed a visual basic RPG-like game for band management which included getting band members, songwriting, touring and releasing albums (plus random events that happened every tour or year). It's very rough (just got in the basic framework). Probably could easily be adapted to the Rock Band franchise. Wouldn't know how to go about trying to approach them about it though.
#1384
#1386
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
Ha. While that's true, that's not painting the full picture. MTV Games pretty much consisted of looking over Harmonix, Viacom didn't know what to do with them, and it gave them an excuse for a nice, big tax writeoff. The writeoff was more attractive than anyone ponying up what HMX is actually worth.
I don't think it's dire for Harmonix, but they will have to get their shit together to survive. Not being part of a massive corporation probably works to their benefit. They get to define success on their terms, but they can't structure themselves like they're gonna sell millions of copies anymore. Gotta be lean, sleek, and efficient. Don't really get the sense that's the current state of things at HMX.
I don't think it's dire for Harmonix, but they will have to get their shit together to survive. Not being part of a massive corporation probably works to their benefit. They get to define success on their terms, but they can't structure themselves like they're gonna sell millions of copies anymore. Gotta be lean, sleek, and efficient. Don't really get the sense that's the current state of things at HMX.
I think having only one music rhythm game right now is good for the genre. Two split the already dwindling market, but one can probably thrive, albiet as a mediocre hit.
#1389
#1390
DVD Talk Legend
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 13,844
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
From: Formerly known as "orangecrush18" - still legal though
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
I kind of developed a visual basic RPG-like game for band management which included getting band members, songwriting, touring and releasing albums (plus random events that happened every tour or year). It's very rough (just got in the basic framework). Probably could easily be adapted to the Rock Band franchise. Wouldn't know how to go about trying to approach them about it though.
#1391
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
Ha. While that's true, that's not painting the full picture. MTV Games pretty much consisted of looking over Harmonix, Viacom didn't know what to do with them, and it gave them an excuse for a nice, big tax writeoff. The writeoff was more attractive than anyone ponying up what HMX is actually worth.
I don't think it's dire for Harmonix, but they will have to get their shit together to survive. Not being part of a massive corporation probably works to their benefit. They get to define success on their terms, but they can't structure themselves like they're gonna sell millions of copies anymore. Gotta be lean, sleek, and efficient. Don't really get the sense that's the current state of things at HMX.
I don't think it's dire for Harmonix, but they will have to get their shit together to survive. Not being part of a massive corporation probably works to their benefit. They get to define success on their terms, but they can't structure themselves like they're gonna sell millions of copies anymore. Gotta be lean, sleek, and efficient. Don't really get the sense that's the current state of things at HMX.
They're a creative, professional group of musicians and developers, I hope they can keep going. Been a fan of theirs since Frequency.
#1393
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,080
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
At the same time, if there's a company around that would just put the rights to big-name bands on ice just to spite their competitor it's Activision.
#1394
Thread Starter
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
Well, Activision hasn't officially cancelled it, right? Just for the current year. Anything that's already published is still available as well.
#1395
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,080
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
If not, I could see the whole thing playing out in the courts, and obviously you have to wonder if the ability to release music this way is even worth the litigation considering the state of the genre but on the other hand people have sued for much less.
Ultimately I think if there are people in the camps of the big "Guitar Hero"-exclusive names who want out they'd have a pretty good case if Activision wasn't understanding and cooperative.
#1396
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
Officially all they said was "No GH in 2011" and then they shuttered the division. Based on that, I can't see them coming back to it in 2012 just because it's a year later. There will have to be some kind of public outcry and demand for its return, and that's not going to happen, not in a year anyway.
#1397
Thread Starter
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
I'm not arguing what we all think they will do. I'm talking more about the external, exclusive agreements.
They haven't cancelled anything that would void those contracts, is what I'm guessing. I'm sure they would incur penalties by breaching. The extent of that, I have no idea. Even letting them go to Harmonix for free would be detrimental if they really were planning a return next year.
Hell, even if they weren't planning a return, the faster that Metallica returns to Harmonix's library, the worse it is for back catalog sales.
They haven't cancelled anything that would void those contracts, is what I'm guessing. I'm sure they would incur penalties by breaching. The extent of that, I have no idea. Even letting them go to Harmonix for free would be detrimental if they really were planning a return next year.
Hell, even if they weren't planning a return, the faster that Metallica returns to Harmonix's library, the worse it is for back catalog sales.
#1398
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,080
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
I'm not arguing what we all think they will do. I'm talking more about the external, exclusive agreements.
They haven't cancelled anything that would void those contracts, is what I'm guessing. I'm sure they would incur penalties by breaching. The extent of that, I have no idea. Even letting them go to Harmonix for free would be detrimental if they really were planning a return next year.
Hell, even if they weren't planning a return, the faster that Metallica returns to Harmonix's library, the worse it is for back catalog sales.
They haven't cancelled anything that would void those contracts, is what I'm guessing. I'm sure they would incur penalties by breaching. The extent of that, I have no idea. Even letting them go to Harmonix for free would be detrimental if they really were planning a return next year.
Hell, even if they weren't planning a return, the faster that Metallica returns to Harmonix's library, the worse it is for back catalog sales.
#1400
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 5,008
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Marion, IA
Re: Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
Officially all they said was "No GH in 2011" and then they shuttered the division. Based on that, I can't see them coming back to it in 2012 just because it's a year later. There will have to be some kind of public outcry and demand for its return, and that's not going to happen, not in a year anyway.



