Guitar Hero: The One and Only Thread
09-10-09 | 10:10 AM
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Well to claim a breach of contract, you must be aware of the existence of a contract. You don't necessarily have to know what's in it and could be (and likely is) completely wrong.
09-10-09 | 10:16 AM
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"[I] never signed off on the avatar, let alone this fucking feature!" she wrote. "There's been four breaches of a very strict contract."
She blames Dave Grohl, among others, who she says will be going to hell.
09-10-09 | 10:16 AM
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Joystiq has more:
I love how she insults and apologizes to Yoko Ono in the same breath.
If you were disgusted by the inclusion of a playable Kurt Cobain in Guitar Hero 5, you weren't the only one: Cobain's widow, Courtney Love, has gone on record (well, on Twitter, anyway, in what looks a lot like Courtney Love's real Twitter account) to register her disapproval, saying, "For the record this Guitar Hero (expletive) is breach of contract on a Bullys part and there will be a proper addressing of this and retraction." Love plans to "sue the (expletive) out of Activision," speaking for herself, Cobain's estate, and "the various LLCs Cobain Enterprises."
She claims to have never given approval for a Kurt Cobain avatar. "We have NOTHING to do with this," she said across two tweets (presented here as originally typed, with the exception of connecting the two messages). "it was presented to me and oi said 'show me a better avataR' TO DRAG MY HEELS., never did i intend on allowing GUITARHERO for me or for Kurt i am NOT yoko (expletive) Ono no ofense to her, but i am a different person entirely and this is insane."
The Cobain avatar was upsetting enough when we thought Love had signed off on it. But now that we hear she hasn't, we're worried for our own sakes. We could all end up playable in a Guitar Hero game at any time.
She claims to have never given approval for a Kurt Cobain avatar. "We have NOTHING to do with this," she said across two tweets (presented here as originally typed, with the exception of connecting the two messages). "it was presented to me and oi said 'show me a better avataR' TO DRAG MY HEELS., never did i intend on allowing GUITARHERO for me or for Kurt i am NOT yoko (expletive) Ono no ofense to her, but i am a different person entirely and this is insane."
The Cobain avatar was upsetting enough when we thought Love had signed off on it. But now that we hear she hasn't, we're worried for our own sakes. We could all end up playable in a Guitar Hero game at any time.
09-10-09 | 10:40 AM
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This is even more confusing cause in the Joystiq story it sounds like she was never even planning on allowing his likeness to be used in the game as she was just dragging it out. Bitch is crazy.
09-10-09 | 11:47 AM
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Who cares if Kurt Cobain was used as an avatar in the game? If it hurts anyone's feelings then too bad. It's not like they have him doing anything else in the game than just playing (singing) music even if it does seem weird. They're not portraying him as a rapist or anything like that. I wouldn't be upset if they used Geddy Lee t sing Brass In My Pocket or 3 Times A Lady.
09-10-09 | 12:34 PM
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So is Demon(s) a required play through or is it just sort of there as an optional like most hardcore songs in the series?
As much as I love Darkest Hour, I'm still disappointed by them choosing this of all their songs. Not that it matters, I usually have to skip the songs to spare the drum sets.
As much as I love Darkest Hour, I'm still disappointed by them choosing this of all their songs. Not that it matters, I usually have to skip the songs to spare the drum sets.
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09-10-09 | 12:54 PM
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I have a feeling the Cobain thing is just a misunderstanding between the two parties about what they were agreeing on...Love probably thought Kurt's avatar/likeness would only be used for the Nirvana tracks, and Activision probably thought they could do whatever they pleased once the contract was signed and use him like any other in-game character....
Who wants to bet they'll probably just release a patch for the game that makes Kurt only onscreen for Nirvana songs? Seems like the easiest settlement to me....
Who wants to bet they'll probably just release a patch for the game that makes Kurt only onscreen for Nirvana songs? Seems like the easiest settlement to me....
09-10-09 | 03:03 PM
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What a doped up, useless shelf of a bitchhttp://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/20898/...s-Allegations/
Originally Posted by Activision
Guitar Hero secured the necessary licensing rights from the Cobain estate in a written agreement signed by Courtney Love to use Kurt Cobain’s likeness as a fully playable character in Guitar Hero 5.
09-10-09 | 03:07 PM
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09-10-09 | 03:09 PM
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To be fair, I'm not sure exactly who TXB got in touch with at Activision. One would presume that whoever it was knew not to speak on matters they know nothing about, though.
09-10-09 | 06:30 PM
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For all four of us here who care....Smash Hits importing is now available for PS3 in GH5....
Looks like the servers are getting hammered right now for it though, as my download is taking a really long time (and this is for less songs than the World Tour import was, so it has to be a smaller file).....luckily for me my rental copy code worked fine, so I'll take the extra tracks for only the $1.99 cost!
Looks like the servers are getting hammered right now for it though, as my download is taking a really long time (and this is for less songs than the World Tour import was, so it has to be a smaller file).....luckily for me my rental copy code worked fine, so I'll take the extra tracks for only the $1.99 cost!
09-10-09 | 06:36 PM
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For all four of us here who care....Smash Hits importing is now available for PS3 in GH5....
Looks like the servers are getting hammered right now for it though, as my download is taking a really long time (and this is for less songs than the World Tour import was, so it has to be a smaller file).....luckily for me my rental copy code worked fine, so I'll take the extra tracks for only the $1.99 cost!
Looks like the servers are getting hammered right now for it though, as my download is taking a really long time (and this is for less songs than the World Tour import was, so it has to be a smaller file).....luckily for me my rental copy code worked fine, so I'll take the extra tracks for only the $1.99 cost!
09-11-09 | 07:30 AM
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I decided to pass on GH5 during this Best Buy sale. I think I like the mix of songs on Smash Hits better, and they left too many good songs off of the import list into 5 that I think I'll hold off for SM to reach $20 and pick that up and play from the disc.
09-11-09 | 07:39 AM
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If I was Activision, my legal response would solely consist of "cocaine's a helluva drug."
Well, that and the signed contracts.
This video does make me laugh, though:
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You just know that Kurt wanted to perform some Bon Jovi, but had an image to maintain.
Well, that and the signed contracts.
This video does make me laugh, though:
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You just know that Kurt wanted to perform some Bon Jovi, but had an image to maintain.
09-11-09 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by VG247
VG247 has received an official statement from Courtney Love’s attorney, Keith Fink, Esquire, regarding Activision’s use of Kurt Cobain’s likeness in Guitar Hero 5.
Apparently, like we assumed, she is upset over Cobain being used to play other artists’ songs, which she finds detrimental to his image and legacy.
“You are correct in stating that Ms. Cobain is extremely upset at Activision’s use of Mr. Cobain’s image in a video game allowing him to sing songs of others,” Mr. Fink told VG247. “Kurt’s songs have a unique and special meaning to his fans and his image and legacy is extremely important to Ms. Cobain.
“Activision’s statement is not accurate in suggesting that they were given an unfettered use of Kurt’s name and likeness. The agreement Activision has with the trust doesn’t grant them the right to use his name and likeness in ways that denigrate his image.
“We are demanding the trust take appropriate action to protect Mr. Cobain’s image and would hope Activision would do so on its own accord and prohibit users of the game from singing songs of others.”
Apparently, like we assumed, she is upset over Cobain being used to play other artists’ songs, which she finds detrimental to his image and legacy.
“You are correct in stating that Ms. Cobain is extremely upset at Activision’s use of Mr. Cobain’s image in a video game allowing him to sing songs of others,” Mr. Fink told VG247. “Kurt’s songs have a unique and special meaning to his fans and his image and legacy is extremely important to Ms. Cobain.
“Activision’s statement is not accurate in suggesting that they were given an unfettered use of Kurt’s name and likeness. The agreement Activision has with the trust doesn’t grant them the right to use his name and likeness in ways that denigrate his image.
“We are demanding the trust take appropriate action to protect Mr. Cobain’s image and would hope Activision would do so on its own accord and prohibit users of the game from singing songs of others.”
09-11-09 | 08:40 AM
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http://xbox.boomtown.net/en_uk/artic...w.php?id=18567
Nirvana duo slam Activision
Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic have issued a strongly worded statement regarding the inclusion of Kurt Cobain in Guitar Hero 5.
The two surviving members of Nirvana have hit out at Activision for allowing Kurt Cobain's avatar to be used so widely by players in Guitar Hero 5. Rather than concentrating solely on Cobain being in the game - they are more annoyed that players can use him to play any song and play alongside Xbox Live avatars.
"We want people to know that we are dismayed and very disappointed in the way a facsimile of Kurt is used in the Guitar Hero game. The name and likeness of Kurt Cobain are the sole property of his estate - we have no control whatsoever in that area. (ed: this is the sticking point, I think. I highly doubt Love consulted anyone else when the contract was drafted.)
"While we were aware of Kurt's image being used with two Nirvana songs, we didn't know players have the ability to unlock the character. This feature allows the character to be used with any kind of song the player wants. We urge Activision to do the right thing in re-locking Kurt's character so that this won't continue in the future.
"It's hard to watch an image of Kurt pantomiming other artists' music alongside cartoon characters. Kurt Cobain wrote songs that hold a lot of meaning to people all over the world. We feel he deserves better."
Deserves better? Than to sing some songs better than his own?
Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic have issued a strongly worded statement regarding the inclusion of Kurt Cobain in Guitar Hero 5.
The two surviving members of Nirvana have hit out at Activision for allowing Kurt Cobain's avatar to be used so widely by players in Guitar Hero 5. Rather than concentrating solely on Cobain being in the game - they are more annoyed that players can use him to play any song and play alongside Xbox Live avatars.
"We want people to know that we are dismayed and very disappointed in the way a facsimile of Kurt is used in the Guitar Hero game. The name and likeness of Kurt Cobain are the sole property of his estate - we have no control whatsoever in that area. (ed: this is the sticking point, I think. I highly doubt Love consulted anyone else when the contract was drafted.)
"While we were aware of Kurt's image being used with two Nirvana songs, we didn't know players have the ability to unlock the character. This feature allows the character to be used with any kind of song the player wants. We urge Activision to do the right thing in re-locking Kurt's character so that this won't continue in the future.
"It's hard to watch an image of Kurt pantomiming other artists' music alongside cartoon characters. Kurt Cobain wrote songs that hold a lot of meaning to people all over the world. We feel he deserves better."
Deserves better? Than to sing some songs better than his own?
09-11-09 | 08:54 AM
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I like some Nirvana songs but c'mon, the guy was no musical genius. Who cares if he's unlockable or not? I dunno, maybe instead of making unlockable characters and such, they could spend more time making a better game, or use the money that it probably cost them to use Cobain's likeness to get a couple more decent songs for the game?? I quit playing the game because I can't handle the shit songs anymore. I had two more venues to open when I checked the setlist online and there isn't anything worth a shit in the last two to make me sit through any more of these crap songs. Thank God I only spent $3.50 to rent this game and not $60 to buy it.
09-11-09 | 08:58 AM
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Not arguing his or anyone's talent. It's just about integrity and respect to both the living and the dead. I have no problem with having these likenesses in the games, I (personally) feel it should be restricted to a realistic setting. Especially if that person is no longer here to speak for his/herself.
But, you're right, it doesn't affect me either. You put that video up there up against the Rooftop Concert in TB:RB and you can really see what respect brings to the table.
But, you're right, it doesn't affect me either. You put that video up there up against the Rooftop Concert in TB:RB and you can really see what respect brings to the table.