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re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Hazel Motes
(Post 13221948)
Criterion should start a new line inspired by their box set John Cassavetes 5 Films.
John Hughes Five Films John Sayles Five Films John Woo Five Films |
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New newsletter out announcing March releases. I'm most excited for this one:
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re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by hdnmickey
(Post 13235898)
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Bowling for Columbine?
Casino? |
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From the Criterionforum:
http://www.criterionforum.org/forum/...=15194#p606473 Awful Truth (dog with hat) Bowling for Columbine (bowling ball about to crash into ten bullet pins) Bringing up Baby / Thin Man (skeleton "Mr Bone" / a thin man - next to Skippy the dog) Color of Pomegranates (the two pomegranates) Graduation + Beyond the Hills (the mortarboards being tossed off in the distance) Ingmar Bergman films (moon + woman with Swedish flag) - probably a box or just a ton of Bergman coming in 2018 Other Side of Hope (backwards HOPE sign) Scarlet Empress (red M in the press/vice) Tree of Life (tree) Virgin Suicides (the Extra Virgin Olive Oil bottles doing an annoying running exercise) truck + river are a bunch of non-clues dealing with Filmstruck (streaming on Filmstruck): Double feature Friday Tuesday film + short film Meat the Filmmakers Every Frame a Painting / Observations in Film Art Moo-V |
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Rumor is that the 6 hour cut of Tree Life is being included. I think people were dicking around, so don't know if that's even possibility with Malick, but we'll see what the final package contains.
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Hrm. When I saw the vice with the M in it, first thing I thought of was Casino and the "Charlie M" scene. :lol:
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re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Coral
(Post 13237636)
From the Criterionforum:
http://www.criterionforum.org/forum/...=15194#p606473 While I love Tree of Life, this seems like another case of Criterion releasing something that's already well represented on BD.
Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
(Post 13237658)
Rumor is that the 6 hour cut of Tree Life is being included. I think people were dicking around, so don't know if that's even possibility with Malick, but we'll see what the final package contains.
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Sean Penn did once complain about how most of his material was cut out & i think one of the editors once said that 'there could be an entire feature length film featuring the Sean Penn character.
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Ugh. I guess 3 BD releases isn't enough, so Criterion's gotta add a 4th.
Broken record time... the current BDs transfers are fantastic and one of the releases has a decent amount of supplements. So many films without a BD release they could be doing instead. Hell, at least start releasing on UHD-BD so there's something new to offer. |
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Yeah, but they need to also put out stuff that sells in order to fund releases that don't.
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I might upgrade No Country For Old Men. I have the first release which is fairly old.
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re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by slop101
(Post 13240601)
Yeah, but they need to also put out stuff that sells in order to fund releases that don't.
How many extra sales will they get from Criterion fans (which is a pretty small market to begin with) who are looking for a very minor "upgrade" from the current BDs in comparison to releasing something else that doesn't currently have a BD? |
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Coral
(Post 13240656)
Are they trying to get the average consumer to buy these more "mainstream" releases? Because I don't see the average consumer who buys BDs (and that's relatively small nowadays) spending $25.99 on a Criterion BD of NCFOM when the regular BD goes for $5.99 (using Amazon prices).
How many extra sales will they get from Criterion fans (which is a pretty small market to begin with) who are looking for a very minor "upgrade" from the current BDs in comparison to releasing something else that doesn't currently have a BD? NCFOM is a Miramax release. Disney has been licensing out tons of stuff in the last few years, with Mill Creek getting a whole lot of Touchstone titles and Echo Bridge getting a bunch of Miramax titles. For those companies to be able to afford those films, the licensing rights must be going at fire-sale prices. I have a feeling that Lionsgate's license for NCFOM is up, and Criterion got the rights for a song. Now add to that the fact that there is a certain contingent of Criterion customers, both individuals and institutions, that buy every release that Criterion puts out. I don't know how many of these hard-core Criterion junkies there are, but my guess would be that Criterion can count on anything they release to automatically sell at least 3-4,000 copies. Put those two together, and Criterion may well have an automatic profit-generator in NCFOM. Any additional sales outside of their guaranteed customer base would be gravy. That's my take on the situation. Criterion has been in the business long enough to have figured out how to maximize their profits, and I certainly can't blame them for releasing a sure thing. At least NCFOM fits snugly into the collection, unlike other films that were much more blatant cash grabs. |
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If every Wes Anderson film gets a mainstream release and a Criterion release, then I have no problem with NCFOM.
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If Criterion gets the Miramax library it could be a goldmine for them. Dozens of films that would fit comfortably into the collection.
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I agree they should grab what they can, but if Miramax films are up for grabs - then they'll have access to so many more films that would be considered decent sellers AND which aren't out on BD (or the current release is sub-par). Down the road they could tackle NCFOM if/when they jump on UHD-BD.
But I guess they understand their hardcore customers more than I do. People will spend their money however they want to. Simply slapping a spine number on a release doesn't get me to automatically open up my wallet. |
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Coral
(Post 13240656)
Are they trying to get the average consumer to buy these more "mainstream" releases? Because I don't see the average consumer who buys BDs (and that's relatively small nowadays) spending $25.99 on a Criterion BD of NCFOM when the regular BD goes for $5.99 (using Amazon prices).
How many extra sales will they get from Criterion fans (which is a pretty small market to begin with) who are looking for a very minor "upgrade" from the current BDs in comparison to releasing something else that doesn't currently have a BD? |
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Originally Posted by Coral
(Post 13240757)
I agree they should grab what they can, but if Miramax films are up for grabs - then they'll have access to so many more films that would be considered decent sellers AND which aren't out on BD (or the current release is sub-par). Down the road they could tackle NCFOM if/when they jump on UHD-BD.
Releasing No Country now may simply be an excuse for Criterion to continue their working relationship with the Coens, hoping to parlay that into future work on some of their other movies that might be considered Criterion-worthy. |
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That’s what I was thinking too. It seems like Criterion has certain directors they like to work with after they’ve established a relationship. I’m sure if they’re able to obtain the rights to films especially when they’re by directors like the Coen Bros. who have a large fanbase they don’t turn down the opportunity.
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I'd double dip on all of Tarantino's films if Criterion got a hold of them.
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^ A Criterion release of “The Whole Bloody Affair” would be nice.
While we’re making Miramax/Criterion wishlist, I’ll also take City of God and Heavenly Creatures. |
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Fingers crossed for
The Reflecting Skin The Crying Game Exotica The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover The Krays Sonatine |
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Toddarino
(Post 13240859)
I'd double dip on all of Tarantino's films if Criterion got a hold of them.
It'd be Pulp Fiction if anything since they had already done the laserdisc 20 years ago. |
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Fingers crossed for:
Husbands/ Minnie & Moskowitz (John Cassavetes) Voyage of Time (Terrence Malick) (both cuts) I feel this is a lock. Secret's & Lies/Happy Go Lucky (Mike Leigh) Crash/Existenz (David Cronenberg) Wild At Heart/Inland Empire/Lost Highway/The Straight Story (David Lynch) Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid (both cuts) (Sam Peckinpah) The Big Red One (Samuel Fuller) (both cuts) Gummo/Julien Donkey Boy (Harmony Korine) Irreversible/I Stand Alone (Gaspar Noe) The Rain People/ One From The Heart (Francis Coppola) Brewster McCloud (Robert Altman) After Hours (Martin Scorsese) Chungking Express (Wong Kar Wai) Cockfighter (Monte Hellman) Born to Kill (Robert Wise) ANYTHING (Werner Herzog ANYTHING (John Sayles) ANYTHING (Alan Clarke) |
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I'm wating Son of Godzilla, Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla, and Rodan to complete my Showa Godzilla collection.
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re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Hazel Motes
(Post 13241075)
Fingers crossed for:
Chungking Express (Wong Kar Wai) |
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fingers crossed for:
matewan diary of a mad housewife the last picture show |
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Originally Posted by AMERICAN
(Post 13241127)
fingers crossed for:
the last picture show |
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Hazel Motes
(Post 13241075)
Fingers crossed for:
Husbands/ Minnie & Moskowitz (John Cassavetes) Voyage of Time (Terrence Malick) (both cuts) I feel this is a lock. Secret's & Lies/Happy Go Lucky (Mike Leigh) Crash/Existenz (David Cronenberg) Wild At Heart/Inland Empire/Lost Highway/The Straight Story (David Lynch) Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid (both cuts) (Sam Peckinpah) The Big Red One (Samuel Fuller) (both cuts) Gummo/Julien Donkey Boy (Harmony Korine) Irreversible/I Stand Alone (Gaspar Noe) The Rain People/ One From The Heart (Francis Coppola) Brewster McCloud (Robert Altman) After Hours (Martin Scorsese) Chungking Express (Wong Kar Wai) Cockfighter (Monte Hellman) Born to Kill (Robert Wise) ANYTHING (Werner Herzog ANYTHING (John Sayles) ANYTHING (Alan Clarke) |
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Originally Posted by dex14
(Post 13241165)
Nice list. Except I can’t stand those Korine films, though I’m not totally against revisiting.
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..I'm looking for just the blu of "the last picture show"..that box set is way too expensive
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Originally Posted by inri222
(Post 13241225)
I agree.
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Originally Posted by TheBang
(Post 13241104)
But that's already been released.
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re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
(Post 13240748)
If Criterion gets the Miramax library it could be a goldmine for them. Dozens of films that would fit comfortably into the collection.
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re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by dex14
(Post 13241314)
Wait... you of all people don't like those Harmony Korine films?? I'm surprised by this. -- not sarcasm or malicious.
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re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by inri222
(Post 13241390)
I've seen all of Harmony Korine's films as a director and have hated all of them except for Spring Breakers.
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