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Solid Snake 10-03-14 06:00 PM

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Ha ha.

I'll take him over Bogdanovich anyday. For some reason I always got them confused for each other.

Paul_SD 10-03-14 06:15 PM

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they both tend to display an ascot affectation- though with PB it's pretty much a constant thing.

hanshotfirst1138 10-03-14 09:52 PM

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So any confirmation about the Studio Canal stuff or hints about when it might happen? The prospect of having The Third Man back is very promising.... Would it mean there's a chance The Man Who Fell to Earth would return too?

hanshotfirst1138 10-03-14 10:36 PM

That's why I'm wondering, I'd preorder in a heartbeat. I was recently looking at eBay, but the prices are, how do I put this delicately, psychotic. I'd like to know for certain before I dump the cash on eBay. And if any of you have seen that in 35mm, I envy you. Maybe there's magic left in the world after all.

LPMA 10-03-14 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 (Post 12257264)
So any confirmation about the Studio Canal stuff or hints about when it might happen? The prospect of having The Third Man back is very promising.... Would it mean there's a chance The Man Who Fell to Earth would return too?

Too lazy to dig up sources, but The Man Who... is all but confirmed, there's even a February 2015 release date floating around.

My Other Self 10-03-14 11:32 PM

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Since when did Criterion get Studio Canal stuff back? :confused:

hanshotfirst1138 10-04-14 06:34 AM

Someone post a hint about it that Criterion apparently posed on their Instagram a page or two back. I'm just wondering if it's smoke and mirrors or the real thing.

rocket1312 10-04-14 09:39 AM

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There have been inklings that Criterion and Studio Canal might be working together again. They recently instagrammed a photo of the artwork for Grand Illusion, as well as the book from The Man Who Fell to Earth. I'm sure that whoever is is in charge of Criterion's social media knows exactly what the implications are by posting such things. Unless they're just a bunch of dicks, I would assume that there's something brewing with those two titles at the very least. When you throw in Criterion getting the Tati films back (although that may or may not have been due to the Tati estate's involvement) and the fact that they seem to be offering up replacements for damaged copies of the oop Pierrot le fou, the outlook seems positive.

That said, none of the above should be interpreted to mean that The Third Man is coming back in print tomorrow or at all. It's just speculation at this point.

Ropes Pierre 10-05-14 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaymole (Post 12252749)

Obama's Presidency?

BuckNaked2k 10-05-14 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ropes Pierre (Post 12259223)
Obama's Presidency?

:lol:

rocket1312 10-15-14 09:55 AM

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Criterion had their annual Wexner Center panel discussion last night. They always reveal lots of new info at these things. Here's some of the highlights:

- That instagram of the Grand Illusion artwork (and the photo they posted yesterday) were pages from the new Criterion art coffee table book that's coming out this fall. Kind of of a bummer given that we had hopes that it meant the Studio Canal titles were coming back. That said...

- When asked about the SC titles, Kim Hendrickson's response was "I can't announce today that is happening." One could easily read a lot into this statement. It sounds like it might be being talked about, but the deal is not done yet.

- Apparently they are working with WB to get some more titles, which would be huge since historically WB does not license out titles. In particular they said Terrence Malick has another he wants to do with Criterion. That title would have to be The New World, which would be great, especially if they get Malick's preferred cut.

- They said more Lynch, Wes Anderson, Passolini, Erice and Kieslowski are on the way in 2015. One would assume that means Mulholland Dr. and Moonrise Kingdom for sure. I'm not familiar enough with Passolini or Erice to know what they might be. Kieslowski would most likely be Blind Chance, which had a new restoration done last year. It's definitely not The Decalogue, although they mentioned that the rights to it are out there.

- They confirmed Ray's Apu Trilogy, Kirostami's Koker Trilogy, Edward Yang's Brighter Summer Day, Truffaut's The Soft Skin and a Sullivan's Travels upgrade for 2015.

There was probably more, but those were the ones that stood out to me. Definitely some cool stuff on the horizon. The potential WB deal is probably the biggest news.

hdnmickey 10-15-14 10:07 AM

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Would pick up Mulholland Dr. and Moonrise Kingdom without hesitation.

inri222 10-15-14 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 12270399)
The potential WB deal is probably the biggest news.

Hmmmm how about a Ken Russell box set?

Decker 10-15-14 11:21 AM

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I've been waiting on Moonrise Kingdom (and Budapest Hotel now as well). I assume that Wes Anderson knows his fans are going to wait for the Criterion versions.

inri222 10-15-14 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 12270399)
- They said more .......Passolini.

If they can get the rest of the Water bearer titles that would be great.

Accatone
The Hawks and the Sparrows
The Gospel According to Saint Matthew
Oedipus Rex
Porcile
Love Meetings

My Other Self 10-15-14 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 12270492)
I've been waiting on Moonrise Kingdom (and Budapest Hotel now as well). I assume that Wes Anderson knows his fans are going to wait for the Criterion versions.

Same here.

I wonder what WB titles they would put out.

rocket1312 10-15-14 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12270487)
Hmmmm how about a Ken Russell box set?

Besides the Malick, they specifically mentioned pre-code. They also said that even if they only got half of the films on the list that's been circulating through the office, that it'd be a big deal. So, who knows.

Dan 10-15-14 11:37 AM

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A Mulholland Dr. and Lost Highway 2-set would be killer. Yes, I know LH was not mentioned or suggested. One can hope. :)

Decker 10-15-14 11:45 AM

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A Mulholland Dr Blu Ray without blurry privates would be nice. Not even just on a perv level -- it's seriously distracting.

inri222 10-15-14 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan (Post 12270523)
A Mulholland Dr. and Lost Highway 2-set would be killer. Yes, I know LH was not mentioned or suggested. One can hope. :)

Both American releases on DVD were put out by Universal.

rocket1312 10-15-14 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 12270534)
A Mulholland Dr Blu Ray without blurry privates would be nice. Not even just on a perv level -- it's seriously distracting.

Assuming Lynch is involved (and I see no reason to think he wouldn't be), I would be very surprised if the blurring wasn't there. It shouldn't matter anyway. If your brightness is set properly you shouldn't be able to see the blurring.

Dan 10-15-14 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 12270564)
If your brightness is set properly you shouldn't be able to see the blurring.

While I agree with Decker's sentiment for the sake of having the film untouched, this is very true. I have the UK Blu-ray of the film and (mostly) proper settings on my PJ, and I can't see the blurs at all.

Josh Z 10-15-14 02:16 PM

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The digital blurring in that (one) shot during Mulholland Drive was mandated in Laura Harring's contract. It's a permanent part of the film. It's not going anywhere.

As mentioned, it should not be visible with proper brightness settings.

Josh Z 10-15-14 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12270548)
Both American releases on DVD were put out by Universal.

David Lynch doesn't have any films with Warner Bros. except Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me, which was originally produced by New Line but is currently under license to CBS Films and Paramount for the "Entire Mystery" box set. The hint that more Lynch films are coming has to be separate from the Warner announcement.

Eraserhead - Currently out by Criterion
The Elephant Man - Paramount
Dune - Universal
Blue Velvet - MGM
Wild at Heart - MGM (currently licensed to Twilight Time)
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - Originally New Line, on Blu-ray from CBS/Paramount
Lost Highway - Universal
The Straight Story - Disney
Mulholland Drive - Universal
Inland Empire - Absurda (Lynch's own label), last distributed on DVD by Rhino

(All of these are the domestic distribution arrangements. Some of these movies are distributed by different studios overseas, but that would have no bearing on Criterion.)

Neil M. 10-15-14 02:47 PM

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I wouldn't expect WB to open the floodgates on their titles. They might be able to swipe a few titles from them but I have to believe that it's going to be at a high cost and it will probably be more director-focused. It would be nice to get Kurosawa's Dreams in HD from Criterion.

rocket1312 10-15-14 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 12270784)
David Lynch doesn't have any films with Warner Bros. except Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me, which was originally produced by New Line but is currently under license to CBS Films and Paramount for the "Entire Mystery" box set. The hint that more Lynch films are coming has to be separate from the Warner announcement.

Eraserhead - Currently out by Criterion
The Elephant Man - Paramount
Dune - Universal
Blue Velvet - MGM
Wild at Heart - MGM (currently licensed to Twilight Time)
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - Originally New Line, on Blu-ray from CBS/Paramount
Lost Highway - Universal
The Straight Story - Disney
Mulholland Drive - Universal
Inland Empire - Absurda (Lynch's own label), last distributed on DVD by Rhino

(All of these are the domestic distribution arrangements. Some of these movies are distributed by different studios overseas, but that would have no bearing on Criterion.)

I don't think anyone was implying that the Lynch thing and the WB deal were related. I think inri222 was just pointing out that if Mulholland Dr. is coming (via Universal), then it stands to reason that Lost Highway could be a possibility as well.

inri222 10-15-14 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 12270827)
I don't think anyone was implying that the Lynch thing and the WB deal were related. I think inri222 was just pointing out that if Mulholland Dr. is coming (via Universal), then it stands to reason that Lost Highway could be a possibility as well.

:up:

Dan 10-15-14 03:11 PM

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Based on Josh's list, I'm betting that the title we get next is Inland Empire...

PhantomStranger 10-15-14 03:18 PM

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Warner has less problem licensing out films with alternate cuts handled by the director. Their home video department does not like saying no to a working director in the industry, if asked.

rocket1312 10-15-14 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan (Post 12270857)
Based on Josh's list, I'm betting that the title we get next is Inland Empire...

I don't know. At this point Mulholland Dr. has all but been confirmed. I don't usually get worked up about what Criterion does and doesn't release. I just sort of take them as they come. But if Inland Empire gets an announcement before Mulholland Dr. (or even Lost Highway for that matter), I might hurt someone.

Giles 10-15-14 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12270873)
Warner has less problem licensing out films with alternate cuts handled by the director. Their home video department does not like saying no to a working director in the industry, if asked.

so how did Criterion get 'Badlands'?

kefrank 10-15-14 04:46 PM

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What's Criterion's licensing history with Paramount titles? I'd LOVE for their next Lynch release to be The Elephant Man.

TheDuke 10-15-14 04:57 PM

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DIRECTOR-APPROVED EDITION:

New 4K digital film transfer, approved by director Lucrecia Martel, with 2.0 surround DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack on the Blu-ray
New interview with filmmaker Andrés di Tella about Martel and the film
Trailer
New English subtitle translation
More!
PLUS: An essay by critic David Oubiña

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New 4K digital restoration, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray
New interview with writer and film historian James Harvey about director Preston Sturges
New interview with actor and comedian Bill Hader about Sturges
Safeguarding Military Information, a 1942 World War II propaganda short written by Sturges
Screen Guild Theater radio adaptation of the film from March 1943
PLUS: An essay by critic Stephanie Zacharek

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DIRECTOR-APPROVED SPECIAL EDITION:
• New high-definition digital restoration, with 2.0 surround DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack on the Blu-ray
• Conversation between director Guy Maddin and art critic Robert Enright
• “My Winnipeg” Live in Toronto, a 2008 featurette
• Various cine-essays by Maddin on Winnipegiana
• Three Maddin shorts, with introductions by the director: Spanky: To the Pier and Back (2008), Sinclair (2010), and Only Dream Things (2012)
• Deleted scene
• Trailer
• PLUS: An essay by critic Wayne Koestenbaum

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New 4K digital restoration, supervised by director of photography Michael Ballhaus, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray
New interviews with Ballhaus and actors Margit Carstensen, Eva Mattes, Katrin Schaake, and Hanna Schygulla
New interview with film scholar Jane Shattuc about director Rainer Werner Fassbinder and the film
Role Play: Women on Fassbinder, a 1992 German television documentary by Thomas Honickel featuring interviews with Carstensen, Schygulla, and actors Irm Hermann and Rosel Zech
New English subtitle translation
PLUS: An essay by critic Peter Matthews

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New high-definition digital restoration, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray edition
Audio commentary featuring film historian Stephen Prince
Trailer
PLUS: An essay by critic Geoffrey O’Brien

Josh-da-man 10-15-14 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 12270767)
The digital blurring in that (one) shot during Mulholland Drive was mandated in Laura Harring's contract. It's a permanent part of the film. It's not going anywhere.[/spoiler]

First I've heard about it being a permanent part of the film, but I think it's true. In the open matte VHS there was additional blurring done in a different way, so I think it's always been in the film prints and not a change for home video. In which case I'm okay with it.

[spoiler]As mentioned, it should not be visible with proper brightness settings.

When I was watching the DVD on my SD CRT set I would have to turn down the brightness and contrast way down in order to make the modesty blur disappear.

And I mean way down, to the point where the 5 o'clock news looked like it was lit by candlelight.

But on my HD set, the blur is invisible under my normal calibration.

kefrank 10-15-14 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDuke (Post 12270995)
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New high-definition digital restoration, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray edition
Audio commentary featuring film historian Stephen Prince
Trailer
PLUS: An essay by critic Geoffrey O’Brien

I love The Sword of Doom! However, I'm a little disappointed this Blu-ray release doesn't get an upgrade on the sparse supplements of the DVD. I'll still buy it, because: 1) I'm a sucker and 2) it has gorgeous black and white cinematography that should look outstanding in hi-def.

slop101 10-15-14 05:30 PM

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meh.

I'm happy with my Sword of Doom DVD, and the rest of that lineup does nothing for me.

Hazel Motes 10-15-14 06:12 PM

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In for The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant and possibly The Palm Beach Story as a blind buy.

DaveyJoe 10-15-14 06:15 PM

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The Sword of Doom is one of my favorite samurai flicks, I'd be happy to double dip during next July's B&N sale.

rocket1312 10-15-14 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 12271045)
I love The Sword of Doom! However, I'm a little disappointed this Blu-ray release doesn't get an upgrade on the sparse supplements of the DVD. I'll still buy it, because: 1) I'm a sucker and 2) it has gorgeous black and white cinematography that should look outstanding in hi-def.

The commentary is new.

LorenzoL 10-15-14 07:25 PM

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I'm definitely double dipping for Sword of Doom. One of my favourite samurai movie and the ending is absolutely "nuts".


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