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fujishig 04-02-25 11:28 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
On a side note I'm kinda excited that they're continuing with amiibos even though there's no Smash (yet). Street Fighter 6 amiibos look pretty cool, and more Zelda is always welcome.

beavis69 04-02-25 11:28 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Like I said in other places, if you think the Switch 2 is high just wait until the PlayStation 6 or whatever abortion Microsoft limps out. This may be the cheapest you will ever see a console again. I'm honestly shocked it's this cheap. Pricing has never caught up with development cost and it's not sustainable anymore, especially in the current climate.

I agree that the tech demo being a paid item is really lame and out of sorts for Nintendo. Other than that I would say the lineup of games could be the largest in history considering the backlog, new games, and ports. The new hardware features are impressive and there was a time in my life I would use the camera but I think that time has past. I'm in day 1 based on DK (who I love and didn't even have in my head as a new game), MK, and WindWaker as part of the GC VC

Love all the dorks complaining about the cheaper region locked Japanese console. Like yea Nintendo wants to make sure the console is in the hands of every citizen, it's like printing money. We're going to see alot more of that going forward with (once again) the current climate.

tanman 04-02-25 11:46 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14577879)
The game-key explanation explicitly says it gives you a license to download the game and that's it. I don't think there's even a playable game there if, say, you don't have initial access to the internet. Because the "enhanced" games work a little different, it makes some sense for Nintendo to have a "bundle" that has the switch game and some kind of download for the enhancement if only to get rid of their remaining stock, but I don't think that has anything to do with this game-key thing. It's like a sneaky way to move everyone to digital altogether.

I just hope this game-key thing is an option and not the default, but I have a hard time believing they'd be selling regular games AND game-key cards for the same games on the same retail shelves.


I don’t know. Seems like they would have the Switch game on there otherwise what’s the purpose on the game key card thing.


…but you may be on to something.

now it’s been revealed that the Bravely Default game and Street Fighter 6 is going to be a game key card. WTF is the purpose of this thing then? It’s worse than a code in a box if you have to put the stupid blank card in your system anyways.

hmm…maybe this is a way to charge their jacked up prices in their specific regions. If they had a code in a box I’m sure there would be a grey market for selling JPN game codes.

So maybe it’s to plug the hole in the market while pushing people to digital so they can have region pricing again?

But then WHY CANT THEY JUST PUT THE STUPID GAME ON THE CART THEN???

Decker 04-02-25 11:47 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
I guess the game file size is too big to store on a cart?

Noonan 04-02-25 11:55 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14577910)
I don’t know. Seems like they would have the Switch game on there otherwise what’s the purpose on the game key card thing.


…but you may be on to something.

now it’s been revealed that the Bravely Default game and Street Fighter 6 is going to be a game key card. WTF is the purpose of this thing then? It’s worse than a code in a box if you have to put the stupid blank card in your system anyways.

hmm…maybe this is a way to charge their jacked up prices in their specific regions. If they had a code in a box I’m sure there would be a grey market for selling JPN game codes.

So maybe it’s to plug the hole in the market while pushing people to digital so they can have region pricing again?

But then WHY CANT THEY JUST PUT THE STUPID GAME ON THE CART THEN???

It's really no different than disc games that install from the cloud but still require you to use the disc to access the game. The disc is nothing more than an activation key/proof of ownership.

tanman 04-02-25 11:58 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Noonan (Post 14577919)
It's really no different than disc games that install from the cloud but still require you to use the disc to access the game. The disc is nothing more than an activation key/proof of ownership.

That’s exactly why I don’t like it.

fujishig 04-02-25 12:01 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14577910)
I don’t know. Seems like they would have the Switch game on there otherwise what’s the purpose on the game key card thing.


…but you may be on to something.

now it’s been revealed that the Bravely Default game and Street Fighter 6 is going to be a game key card. WTF is the purpose of this thing then? It’s worse than a code in a box if you have to put the stupid blank card in your system anyways.

hmm…maybe this is a way to charge their jacked up prices in their specific regions. If they had a code in a box I’m sure there would be a grey market for selling JPN game codes.

So maybe it’s to plug the hole in the market while pushing people to digital so they can have region pricing again?

But then WHY CANT THEY JUST PUT THE STUPID GAME ON THE CART THEN???

You may be onto something with the region locking. I know they said the systems are region locked but have they said anything about the games? Woot for example has been selling discounted Nintendo games that are not for the NA region for some time now.

Noonan 04-02-25 12:01 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14577923)
That’s exactly why I don’t like it.

Games have gotten too big. Would you rather pay more for a game that has to come on multiple discs or carts?

FF7 Remake for example, is around 100gb. I highly doubt the carts Nintendo is using can store that much data.

tanman 04-02-25 12:18 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
I think I’ve been complaining enough.

Some things I’m really excited about.
  • MK World looks incredible. A game changer instead of just introducing a new gimmicky mechanic. Seems like a game we’ll be playing for a very long time.
  • MP4 with mouse controls! Very interesting. And I wonder if this is the reason for the delay in announcing MP 2+3?
  • Mouse controls in general. Very cool to see this being implemented. I really wonder if it will take off and really expand third party support. Also crossing my fingers for Mario Paint to be re-released.
  • DK! This game looks great! Destructible environments to separate it from other platformers.
  • 4K support!! I’m SO happy for this. Shows there’s some muscle in that tiny system and shows that Nintendo hasn’t totally given up on chasing pixels. I’m sure there will be a lot of caveats. But still really happy with this. As well as…
  • 120 fps support! Again considering some of their recent games that weren’t graphics intensive and still dipped in frame rate it’s still great to see that Nintendo realizes they could do a lot better in graphic fidelity.
  • Continued Amiibo support including new Zelda Amiibos! I’m probably in the minority but I still love Amiibos and it’s nice to see continued support.
  • Chat support! With a camera! Yeah I know this is REALLY old hat and even Nintendo came out with a microphone accessory way back in the Wii days. And of course earlier with built in microphone support going back to the original Famicon system. So still nice to finally see. Would still like chat option for those that aren’t family and friends. -rolleyes-
  • Increased 3rd party support! I feel like this isn’t quite as important as it has been in the past but nice to see that hopefully Nintendo systems will possibly get simultaneous ports without too much degradation in quality.
  • OG Switch accessory support for games and accessories. Great to see this confirmed. Although I’m worried that the shovelware problem will just get a lot worse.
  • GCN game! Excited but double edged sword for me. I don’t have an expansion pack subscription and seeing Wind Waker and FZero on there makes me thing that we won’t get the WiiU HD remake of WW and maybe not another FZero game.

tanman 04-02-25 12:27 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 14577911)
I guess the game file size is too big to store on a cart?


Originally Posted by Noonan (Post 14577927)
Games have gotten too big. Would you rather pay more for a game that has to come on multiple discs or carts?

FF7 Remake for example, is around 100gb. I highly doubt the carts Nintendo is using can store that much data.

Wario64 reported that Bravely Default is 11 gb and SF6 is 50 gb.

I’m really thinking it’s a way to region lock the Switch 2 games. Or at least the sale of the games. Not sure if the games themselves will be locked yet. Sucks because it’s a consumer unfriendly step. But maybe it will be rare like the code in the box games.

edit:
Also cyberpunk will be available on a 64 gb cart. So I don’t think size is much of a limitation for most games.

https://x.com/wario64/status/1907490743981056091?s=46&t=RU5JGAQg7r9G6o9Z5qL2DQ

tanman 04-02-25 01:01 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
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  • My Best Buy Plus™ and My Best Buy Total™ members can get a $20 certificate for every $150 spent on Nintendo games and gear, up to $100 in certificates*. Any purchase also comes with one month of Nintendo Switch Online**.

https://corporate.bestbuy.com/2025/nintendo-switch-2/




Unfortunately when I looked at the $20 certificate deal last night it said hardware purchases were excluded from the promo. Which sucks. I wonder if at least accessories will be included.

edit: based on the link accessories will be included. Still sucks it doesn’t include the console then. Seems like the best place to buy it will be Target with a red card at 5% off.

HeIsTheZissou 04-02-25 01:32 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
I was interested, but not at the new price point. I'll just stick with my Xbox for now.

Noonan 04-02-25 03:12 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Nintendo has released battery life expectations and it's not good. Worse than any current model Switch, even the Lite. 2-6 hours rather than the 3-7 of the Lite or 4-9 of the base model.

Maybe bragging that you didn't make it any thicker isn't so much a brag. :shrug:

HeIsTheZissou 04-02-25 03:16 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Phrasing.

Michael Corvin 04-02-25 03:59 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
$450-$500? :wtf:
$80 games? Double :wtf:
No OLED? the fuck? So we're going backwards?
Charging for tech demos? Pass
Worse battery life than the Switch. Holy hell.
Lackluster game lineup? Wow.

I guess when Nintendo said they were gonna be able to avoid the scalper problem, this is what they meant. Make the system as unattractive as possible so no one wants it at launch. :lol:


Well I've been debating some window tint for my car or the Switch 2 launch. Window tint it is.

I'll just get Metroid Beyond on Switch and wait out the Switch 2 until it's reasonably priced with some more attractive games.

Decker 04-02-25 04:03 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
That makes a lot of sense.

DJariya 04-02-25 04:08 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
I haven't had a Nintendo console in years and this is definitely not going to be something I get right away. Maybe not at all. Hell, I got my 1st PS5 about a year after it launched when there was a shortage during Covid. I can definitely wait to see what transpires here. And I'm not a hardcore gamer, so I don't need new consoles and expensive games right away.

fujishig 04-02-25 04:19 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
I am now starting to believe in a theory that Nintendo is moving to those cart license things so that they can manufacture them anywhere since there's no tariff (yet) on digital goods or downloads.

nickdawgy 04-02-25 04:23 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 14577768)
Oof is right. $450? Welcome Tour is extra? $80 games? One original first party launch title? This might be the most disappointing console launch announcement I can recall.

Yep. Easy pass for me. I typically only play my Switch on trips anyway. Had they released a new Animal Crossing game it would have been tempting.

No rush.

lumberjack 04-02-25 04:31 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 14578055)
I'll just get Metroid Beyond on Switch and wait out the Switch 2 until it's reasonably priced with some more attractive games.

I'm with you on this. I've had MP4 prepaid since Best Buy put it up in January 2020 and still had the Gamer's Club (so I got it discounted). If BB doesn't outright cancel the order, I'll let whichever version I receive (Switch 1 or Switch 2) determine whether I pick up this console this year. No games shown are of interest to me, and the steep price makes this console no longer a day-one purchase for me. I have plenty of backlog games for multiple consoles to get through.

fujishig 04-02-25 04:36 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by lumberjack (Post 14578089)
I'm with you on this. I've had MP4 prepaid since Best Buy put it up in January 2020 and still had the Gamer's Club (so I got it discounted). If BB doesn't outright cancel the order, I'll let whichever version I receive (Switch 1 or Switch 2) determine whether I pick up this console this year. No games shown are of interest to me, and the steep price makes this console no longer a day-one purchase for me. I have plenty of backlog games for multiple consoles to get through.

I'm surprised BB didn't cancel your order. I don't have notification they cancelled mine but mine is no longer in my order history.

GatorDeb 04-02-25 05:40 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
I'm out at $500 for system plus 1 game.

tanman 04-02-25 06:08 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14577857)
I guess we don’t have any pricing yet for the enhanced versions. I am curious how much it will be. Hopefully just $10. But this way they can sell BotW and TotK for full price $60 and $70 + the enhancements vs getting the Switch versions on sale like they have been numerous times before.


Ugh…guess I was right. The announced Switch games with enhancements.

:whofart:

BotW $70
TotK $80
Kirby $80
MP $80

I don’t think they’re selling the enhancements very well. Or are aware of/care about the optics of selling an 8 year old Zelda game for $70. I think it would have been better to just sell the enhancements and rerelease the Switch game as Switch games but compatible with Switch 2 enhancements. The optics on this aren’t great.

In some good news I think I saw MP4 was $60 so I’m guessing $20 for enhancements. Or maybe even $10? I still wish this was fully on a Switch 2 cart. Ridiculous it isn’t.

The Cow 04-02-25 07:00 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 14578078)
Yep. Easy pass for me. I typically only play my Switch on trips anyway. Had they released a new Animal Crossing game it would have been tempting.

No rush.

Yeah, Animal Crossing is one that probably would have sucked me back in.

dsa_shea 04-02-25 07:36 PM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
At that price, I will cross this animal off of my list of wants for the near future. Some piss poor choices and a devouring of years of goodwill. The battery lifespan means that you will be thinking about how you're going to charge it not long after getting it out to play while away from home.


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