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tanman 05-08-26 09:02 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 14739144)
At this point, any new gaming system that launches in the near future will have to cost $1000.

I seriously doubt that. How microscopic of a user base would they have at $1000? It would be literally twice the price from just the previous generation? Which was already a hard pill to swallow at $500 back then?

tanman 05-08-26 09:10 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
I'm kind of surprised Nintendo chose to go this route. I know the analysts and investors were screaming at Nintendo to raise their price (Thanks for that BTW -rolleyes-). But why would they chose to raise the price of their console but lower the price of their games? Don't get me wrong of course I'm all for that but they already bared the majority of the brunt of people complaining about $70 games. A console price increase is a one time fee and will get them bad publicity and a lower user base. But if they stayed the course they would have easily made up that $50 by keeping the price of games $70, even if they did sell digital for $60.

I'm sure Nintendo has a lot of bean counters a lot smarter than me helping them make decisions but it's a puzzling one to me. But great for me since I'm in before the price increase and get to pay less for games.

Deftones 05-09-26 02:12 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14739357)
I seriously doubt that. How microscopic of a user base would they have at $1000? It would be literally twice the price from just the previous generation? Which was already a hard pill to swallow at $500 back then?

And look how expensive XSX and PS5s currently are, 6 years into their cycle. Gaming companies are not going to take $400 hits on consoles.

tanman 05-09-26 10:34 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 14739533)
And look how expensive XSX and PS5s currently are, 6 years into their cycle. Gaming companies are not going to take $400 hits on consoles.

Yeah currently. Did you forget they released with their base consoles at $300 and $400? And this generation is STILL trying to play catch up with the previous generation. How much more difficult of a time do you think they'll have if they come out with base $1000 consoles??? Not going to happen. But I also agree that they're not going to take a $400 bath either. That's why, IMO the best option is to delay the next gen until prices and supply stabilize and excitement for the next gen compounds. The second option is for them to release an initial held back base console and later introduce a pro version that they can charge whatever they want to. Or they could release them at the same time kind of like the series S and X. But either way there's no way they release a $1000 console as the standard option. If they do they just sealed their own doom.

Deftones 05-09-26 10:58 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14739648)
Yeah currently. Did you forget they released with their base consoles at $300 and $400? And this generation is STILL trying to play catch up with the previous generation. How much more difficult of a time do you think they'll have if they come out with base $1000 consoles??? Not going to happen. But I also agree that they're not going to take a $400 bath either. That's why, IMO the best option is to delay the next gen until prices and supply stabilize and excitement for the next gen compounds. The second option is for them to release an initial held back base console and later introduce a pro version that they can charge whatever they want to. Or they could release them at the same time kind of like the series S and X. But either way there's no way they release a $1000 console as the standard option. If they do they just sealed their own doom.

The ram situation isn't going to resolve itself for at least a year. Consoles are several years in the making. Not like they can really pivot here. Delaying the console only makes it worse because you are also delaying the technology inside by a year. That chip that runs the thing is now a year older. Comparing what the price was when they launched is irrelevant to what they will have to charge now as a result of sourcing the parts for this stuff now.

tanman 05-10-26 12:13 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 14739650)
The ram situation isn't going to resolve itself for at least a year. Consoles are several years in the making. Not like they can really pivot here. Delaying the console only makes it worse because you are also delaying the technology inside by a year. That chip that runs the thing is now a year older. Comparing what the price was when they launched is irrelevant to what they will have to charge now as a result of sourcing the parts for this stuff now.

So? Push it back several years than. Nobody is clamoring for the next generation. And what if the tech is a year older? We're already at the point of diminishing returns in terms of entire console generations. Where you really have to squint and almost convince yourself that there's a tangible difference between the Pro consoles and the base consoles. The general public that make up the majority of console buyers don't care. And the launch price is absolutely relevant. All you're talking about is one small part of the bigger equation. What the tech will cost the companies. I'm looking at their entire business model.

The economy was in a much better place at the start of the generation at least where video games are concerned. Sure there was a lot of doubt over all but video games experienced a huge boom during the pandemic. All that extra pandemic money and nowhere to spend it meant people had a lot of money for home bound activities. And even then there was a lot of criticism for how expensive the consoles were back then. Compare that to now. People are struggling. Video games are no longer top priority. Video game studios are closing left and right. Now MS and Sony drop a $1000 console. Who in the world is going to be able to buy that? I think Sony is going to actually have to be innovative next generation to stay viable. They're definitely going to come out with some kind of cheaper option. I think it'll be their handheld that they're working on. Maybe it will be a cheaper hybrid console as an option for the general public to get in on the next generation while their most powerful tech will be in a much more expensive more traditional console form factor.

Maxflier 05-10-26 09:52 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
I'm with Tanman. I don't know what the answer is exactly, but Sony has to be brainstorming for how to handle this because they know launching a new generation with a $1,000 console isn't going to work.

fujishig 05-11-26 08:00 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14739361)
I'm kind of surprised Nintendo chose to go this route. I know the analysts and investors were screaming at Nintendo to raise their price (Thanks for that BTW -rolleyes-). But why would they chose to raise the price of their console but lower the price of their games? Don't get me wrong of course I'm all for that but they already bared the majority of the brunt of people complaining about $70 games. A console price increase is a one time fee and will get them bad publicity and a lower user base. But if they stayed the course they would have easily made up that $50 by keeping the price of games $70, even if they did sell digital for $60.

I'm sure Nintendo has a lot of bean counters a lot smarter than me helping them make decisions but it's a puzzling one to me. But great for me since I'm in before the price increase and get to pay less for games.

They already said the 10 dollar increase in physical games doesn't cover the increased cost (and that they're hoping that the quality of their games will). I doubt they made either change lightly, considering how most of their eggs are in the videogame basket compared to their competitors, but it shows just how desperate the situation is.

I wonder if the cost of carts is just skyrocketing because of everything else (hence the oft hated game key cards)

Jay G. 05-18-26 12:47 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
No Gravity Games is giving away some retro styled games this week:

https://nogravitygames.com/pixel-chaos-giveaway/


Pixel Chaos Giveaway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UEhocXaPQo

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On Selected day one title will be revealed and will have 100% off Owner Discount. If you have all the previous games from the lineup you'll be able to grab it for free! Just click on the corresponding image (below) of the game as it goes up for grabs and you'll be able to redeem it there.

CLICK HERE TO CHECK OUR PORTFOLIO!

You’ll need to be careful though. If you forget to redeem any of the corresponding free titles, you won’t be eligible for the rest. The next titles in the lineup will become available free for users who have the previous ones added to their accounts! If you miss a game, don’t worry. Just buy the missing games which will go on sale day after the owner discount to complete the chain and this will grant you a possibility to gather the rest of them for free!

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This is very similar to their Christmas giveaways, but only for one week.

I also posted this on the video games deals thread.

Jay G. 05-19-26 02:12 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 14742714)
No Gravity Games is giving away some retro styled games this week:

https://nogravitygames.com/pixel-chaos-giveaway/

The free game today:

Strike Force Kitty

https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/strike-force-kitty-switch/

fujishig 05-19-26 03:35 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
I assume if I already have the game I'll be eligible for the next one without doing anything, right?

Jay G. 05-20-26 01:19 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
The second game in the No Gravity Games - Pixel Chaos giveaway:

Cyjin: The Cyborg Ninja:

https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/pr...-ninja-switch/



Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14743167)
I assume if I already have the game I'll be eligible for the next one without doing anything, right?

Yes, you just have to own the previous games to get the next one, so if you already own it you're fine for the next game.

Sadly for me, I already own both games so far. We'll see if there's a unique game they haven't given away before.

Jay G. 05-21-26 06:12 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
The third game in the No Gravity Games - Pixel Chaos giveaway:

Flippin Kaktus

https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/flippin-kaktus-switch/

I didn't own this game yet.

Edit: Fixed link. Thanks Decker!

Decker 05-21-26 08:02 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
^ Wrong link
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/pr...kaktus-switch/

Jay G. 05-22-26 07:41 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
The fourth game in the No Gravity Games - Pixel Chaos giveaway:

Primal Light

https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/pr...-light-switch/

Another title I already own from a previous giveaway.

Decker 05-23-26 09:21 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Any word on today?

Jay G. 05-23-26 01:24 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
The fifth game in the No Gravity Games - Pixel Chaos giveaway:

Dream Alone

https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/pr...-alone-switch/

Jay G. 05-24-26 09:54 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
The final game in the No Gravity Games - Pixel Chaos giveaway:

Master Spy

https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/pr...er-spy-switch/

fujishig 05-26-26 07:48 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Dang I always mess up the streak on these free games during the weekends/long holidays. Oh well.

fujishig 05-27-26 11:38 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Square just had a Dragon Quest stream, lots of switch stuff:


DQ XII basically restarted development so while they showed some of it off don't expect that for a couple of years. sigh.
DQXI will get a switch 2 version that hits the trifecta of crap: game key card, no upgrade path and no save file transfer from the switch version. This is all par for the course for them but man I'm curious how this does outside of Japan since I don't see much besides a graphical upgrade (which is STILL not as nice as the PS4 version) AND the old version is dirt cheap.
Another Monsters game is coming out. The previous Monsters game is on sale for 10 bucks in the eshop as of yesterday.

No new remakes yet.

I realize I'm spoiled but man I hate switch 2 versions that don't at least have backward compatibility with the switch 1 version, especially for long JRPGs.

Decker 05-27-26 12:50 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Yeah, that's pretty ridiculous and inexcusable -- especially for game that were released on Switch 1 before the Switch 2 launch.


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