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Old 03-14-12 | 06:03 PM
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Re: Mass Effect 3

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To those who have beat it...

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I am about to go after the Illusive Man after saving Miranda... How much further do I have?
Several hours at least
Old 03-14-12 | 06:30 PM
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Re: Mass Effect 3

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I've been disappointed with a lot of Movies endings. But i would never think to demand a writer or director change the ending. What makes these idiot gamers think they have a right to demand a games ending be changed???
If you have beaten the game watch the video I have posted.
Old 03-14-12 | 06:52 PM
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To those who have beat it...

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I am about to go after the Illusive Man after saving Miranda... How much further do I have?
You do have a few hours left as stated above, but you're also at the point of no return for sidequests etc. once you begin that mission. You'll be informed about it in the game, though.
Old 03-14-12 | 07:56 PM
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Re: Mass Effect 3

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This guy pretty much gets all the rage about the endings:

http://youtu.be/4H_A7SeawU4
Yes. Everything in the video is spot on. 120 hours (more or less, across all 3 games) of amazing, and then 5 minutes of complete WTF?

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Old 03-14-12 | 10:12 PM
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Well, that's enough ME3 for today (my copy finally arrived in the mail today ). So far I've felt more like I've been lead by the hand than actually gotten to do any branching out. Hopefully that changes soon.

Met the new assistant, Trainer. Colour me unimpressed. But it could be worse. They could have gotten someone as horrible as Chobot to voice her. *shudder*
Old 03-14-12 | 11:11 PM
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Sniper Rifle Piercing Module.....fully leveled up Armor piercing ammo ...Widow riffle....OMG

I wish I could capture footage...on insanity I had 4 guys lined up and all 4 died with one shot....I have hit people through thick concrete.....I think it has like 9-10 feet of penetration with all three stacked like this. People get behind deep cover and even if I don't see their red outline it still kills them. It is like cover is no longer in the game.......

(I offset the reduced dmg of the mod by using dmg increase on the other mod...this still puts the Widow all green for damage)
Old 03-15-12 | 01:44 AM
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The ending: I liked it. While I haven't read a single thing in this thread or on the web or in a video about it, here's my initial reaction.

Spoiler:
That was the goddamned toughest decision of the entire saga and it should have been. But, for me, it only game down to two options. There was no way I was going to sacrifice all synthetic life after fighting so hard for the Geth the last two games, so that was out.

But choosing between letting life continue in the galaxy as we know it, hoping to control and learn from the Reapers (and past civilizations?) and maybe still dooming ourselves to repeat the mistakes of the past or trusting the Catalyst in the next stage of evolution... I stood there at the crossroads for probably 5 minutes before walking down the middle. I just felt like that was everything I was fighting for. Plus the dreamlike sequences with me chasing that kid ended with us together, like we were family. It just felt right.

Though I really, REALLY didn't want to lose the Mass Relays and keep the future race(s) isolated from each other. Still, it's probably for the best.

The cutscene with Joker and Normandy trying to outrun the event was heart-breaking, but when I saw what was an apparent Adam & Eve situation with him and EDI, I smiled. Then Liara walked out and I was all like That's the only bit that really bothered me, since Joker looked like he had some cybernetic stuff on his neck, I didn't see the need for others, especially since the Catalyst said they'd all be gone.

I may go back and watch the other two cutscenes from my save, though this time I'll definitely change the narrative option to story-only so I can skip all the battles.


Oh, and fuck an insane run. You throw 3-4 Banshees at me at once, you can choke on all the dicks.
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One more thing, did anyone get the achievement for gathering "most" of the war assets in SP only? I never touched MP so my readiness stayed at an even 50% the whole time. I did everything and made as many people as happy as I could except
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The Salarians - seriously? Get over it! The genophage has no place in my galaxy (which doesn't exist anymore anyway)
and I still only had a little more than 3500 after the readiness modifier.

Reading now, it looks like ~4000 is required which means I would have needed an extra 1000 for that, but I don't see how unless I just missed a bunch of Citadel eavesdropping missions. I don't think so, though, it felt right and every system was scanned 100%. Well, those that could be scanned, at least.

No big deal as I plan to play some MP anyway. I just need to get my 50% up to 60-65% and then reload my save. That should be enough. Probably will go for the full 100% across the board too. I wonder if/how those numbers beyond a full green bar affect the ending...
Old 03-15-12 | 02:43 AM
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Originally Posted by pinata242
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I just felt like that was everything I was fighting for. Plus the dreamlike sequences with me chasing that kid ended with us together, like we were family. It just felt right.
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I wasn't at all convinced by the theory that's been put out there that the entire ending was Sheperd undergoing indoctrination until I read this. If that doesn't sound like what Saren was going on about during the battle of the Citadel at the end of Mass Effect, I don't know what does.

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Old 03-15-12 | 03:31 AM
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Finally finished it.

Spoiler:
I chose the synthesis ending. It was the only choice for me. It was quite literally the middle path and the only one that offered any chance of real happiness for the characters in the game. No way was I going to let EDI and Legion die, and Shepard's sacrifice turns her into the legend we all knew she was going to be.


I don't get the rage about the endings. I guess some people want everything tied up in a nice happy bow. I'm glad the game didn't do that.

What I will rage about is that the last fifth of the game was a total slog and was often really frustrating. When you had to defend those missile tanks in London I just about threw my controller at the screen it took me so many tries. And that was on normal difficulty.

I'm also not happy I had to play multiplayer to get my assets past 4,000. That's really cheap and shitty.

Ultimately, I did like the game, but I prefer Mass Effect 2.
Old 03-15-12 | 05:39 AM
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Originally Posted by pinata242
One more thing, did anyone get the achievement for gathering "most" of the war assets in SP only? I never touched MP so my readiness stayed at an even 50% the whole time. I did everything and made as many people as happy as I could except
Spoiler:
The Salarians - seriously? Get over it! The genophage has no place in my galaxy (which doesn't exist anymore anyway)
and I still only had a little more than 3500 after the readiness modifier.

Reading now, it looks like ~4000 is required which means I would have needed an extra 1000 for that, but I don't see how unless I just missed a bunch of Citadel eavesdropping missions. I don't think so, though, it felt right and every system was scanned 100%. Well, those that could be scanned, at least.

No big deal as I plan to play some MP anyway. I just need to get my 50% up to 60-65% and then reload my save. That should be enough. Probably will go for the full 100% across the board too. I wonder if/how those numbers beyond a full green bar affect the ending...
It's 5,000 for the "best" ending, but I'm not sure about the achievement. Bioware has stated that it's definitely possible to get that much in single-player, but it's obviously not completely straightforward. There are a lot of things in the campaign that affect the rating, and as I mentioned earlier in the thread, not all of them are the Paragon choices or what you would expect to be the "best" choice. One small non-spoiler example: if you invite Dr. Chakwas to join you on the Normandy, you get no war asset, but if you take the Renegade option and tell her to stay in the lab, her work as a researcher does count and increases your rating. It should be noted, though, that based on everything I've read,
Spoiler:
it doesn't matter anyway and all the endings are virtually identical. That seems to be a big part of why so many people are upset.

Also keep in mind that the achievement unlocks at the point of no return, which is
Spoiler:
when you give Hackett the go-ahead for the "Attack the Cerberus Base" mission. That might be earlier than you'd expect.

Here's a link to IGN's non-spoiler guide to all the endings and the requirements for getting them.

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Old 03-15-12 | 06:30 AM
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The mission itself is extremely short, but as a squadmate he's fully integrated into the game, just like any of the others. He's definitely no Kasumi or Zaeed as far as being an obvious late addition. There are a number of conversation scenes with him throughout the game if you visit regularly on the Normandy, he has mission-specific dialogue, and other team members have dialogue with him or about him throughout the game, even mission-specific banter. He also shows up in some of the key moments throughout the game, providing a lot of important and interesting (if not "vital," I guess) information and background. All further evidence that the content was developed alongside the game and excised to be sold as DLC, to me.

So no, the mission itself isn't integral to the main storyline, but I can't imagine playing through the game without the squadmate now that I've done it almost three times. He's one of my standard choices on most missions, in fact.
Oh I definitely like him as a character. It's funny you mention Kasumi and Zaeed. I bought ME2 as soon as it came out for the PS3 and it had all the DLC integrated in. I didn't even know, until long after I finished the game, that those two were DLC. If I really like a game, I don't mind paying for DLC and extending my playtime.
Old 03-15-12 | 09:00 AM
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Since more people have gotten to the ending, I'll give my take on it.

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I'm fine with the three choices you're given, and the outcome of each. They make sense in the universe, and give you some very vastly different choices for the future of the galaxy.

My only problem comes with the bit after the Normandy trying to escape the wave. Now I don't want everything wrapped up in a neat bow. That's impossible. But I would like to at least know who is alive or dead. Especially Garrus, who you get two FANTASTIC scenes with in the game (at the top of the Citadel and then the whole "bar in heaven" speech near the end). Now Garrus was with me in my final mission when essentially everyone got blasted, so one could assume he died... but Liara was with me too and she pops out on the Normandy at the end like "Hey guys, what's going on!" There's a difference between simple clarification and total closure, and I think it's bullshit that the end of your trilogy journey can't even tell you who lived or died.

This game is Dragon Age. The storyline is EXACTLY the same. And when Dragon Age ended you get a satisfying wrap up of what happens to everyone in your party, even if that wrap up is "so and so was spotted in villages and then vanished without a trace a few months after the battle". You don't have to give me Garrus' entire life story after the battle with the Reapers. Just let me know if he made it or not.

Also, in the final montage as you "die" you apparently see glimpses of three people: Joker, Anderson and Liara. Now, Anderson I get... he was important to Shepard. Liara too, she was most likely the majority of people's romance choices, and even if not, she was very important to Shepard. But Joker? To be honest I could name half a dozen characters I give more of a shit about than Joker.

Oh and I wanted my robot dog to come lay down next to me after my Shepard made his final choice.
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Finally finished it.

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I chose the synthesis ending. It was the only choice for me. It was quite literally the middle path and the only one that offered any chance of real happiness for the characters in the game. No way was I going to let EDI and Legion die, and Shepard's sacrifice turns her into the legend we all knew she was going to be.
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Legion survived in your game? How'd that happen?
Old 03-15-12 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Supermallet
Finally finished it.

Spoiler:
I chose the synthesis ending. It was the only choice for me. It was quite literally the middle path and the only one that offered any chance of real happiness for the characters in the game. No way was I going to let EDI and Legion die, and Shepard's sacrifice turns her into the legend we all knew she was going to be.


I don't get the rage about the endings. I guess some people want everything tied up in a nice happy bow. I'm glad the game didn't do that.

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There are a ton of articles/videos that detail why many are upset.

here is one, The producers of ME3 promised many different endings. What did we get?

We got this:

http://youtu.be/rPelM2hwhJA
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Wow, that's even worse than I thought. I'm glad I spent so much time working on my Galactic Readiness/War Asset/Effective Readiness stats before heading into the final battle, since this is what it got me:
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Old 03-15-12 | 11:57 AM
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Legion survived in your game? How'd that happen?
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Sorry, it was late. Legion didn't survive, but the Geth were individuals.
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe
This guy pretty much gets all the rage about the endings:

http://youtu.be/4H_A7SeawU4
Okay, now that I watch this, I can agree that there are problems with the ending. I won't call that they change it, though.

Also, going through achievements, it looks like there are achievements on the disc for the From Ashes DLC. The various ways that Bioware/EA have designed things so that you have to play multiplayer, download DLC, buy an iPad game, blah blah blah have left a really bad taste in my mouth. Several elements of this game feels like a cash grab. Between this and DA2 where it sent you to the marketplace to download new characters who are introduced but not on disc I may be done with Bioware completely.
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Originally Posted by Supermallet
Okay, now that I watch this, I can agree that there are problems with the ending. I won't call that they change it, though.

Also, going through achievements, it looks like there are achievements on the disc for the From Ashes DLC. The various ways that Bioware/EA have designed things so that you have to play multiplayer, download DLC, buy an iPad game, blah blah blah have left a really bad taste in my mouth. Several elements of this game feels like a cash grab. Between this and DA2 where it sent you to the marketplace to download new characters who are introduced but not on disc I may be done with Bioware completely.
I honestly am okay with the endings, while I think there should have been 'happier' options, I just want some closure, maybe a epilogue.

But I swear, if Bioware releases a 'endings' DLC and charges people for it? Its on like Donkey Kong:

A couple of more things in regards to the endings:

http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect...ans-are-right/

Gives 5 detailed reasons why the endings sucked, while we may disagree with some of the reasonings, I think these reasons are pretty much what most gamers are at.
Old 03-15-12 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Supermallet
Also, going through achievements, it looks like there are achievements on the disc for the From Ashes DLC. The various ways that Bioware/EA have designed things so that you have to play multiplayer, download DLC, buy an iPad game, blah blah blah have left a really bad taste in my mouth. Several elements of this game feels like a cash grab. Between this and DA2 where it sent you to the marketplace to download new characters who are introduced but not on disc I may be done with Bioware completely.
That's the sort of stuff that I would place the blame on EA more than Bioware.
Old 03-15-12 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe
A couple of more things in regards to the endings:

http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect...ans-are-right/

Gives 5 detailed reasons why the endings sucked, while we may disagree with some of the reasonings, I think these reasons are pretty much what most gamers are at.
While I don't want to start dictating to companies that they do my bidding, and I certainly don't ever want to tell a creative entity how something should end (since that would destroy all sense of joy and surprise that can come from endings)... I agree with all of that.
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Okay now that more people are talking about the ending, even in spoilers... I'm out. Too risky.
Old 03-15-12 | 01:34 PM
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Ooooohhh..apparently many of the game files are out and people are doing digging

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First things found was that some of the ending file names were titled, Blue, Green, Red
Old 03-15-12 | 01:55 PM
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That's the sort of stuff that I would place the blame on EA more than Bioware.
Is there a difference now? Especially since EA keeps taking other development teams and renaming them as BioWare?
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MoviePage...I noticed you are doing your second run on insanity with a sentinel. How far are you with that, and how do you feel so far with your build? I think I have 6 missions left (2 N7 and 4 main) and I am done, and at this moment I would say the game is even easier than 2 on insanity, though I hear the last few missions are a bitch....(Infiltrator)

Anyone else using builds other than sentinel and infiltrator on insanity?


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