Official Wii Thread pt. 3
09-23-06 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by abrg923
See, with me, I want the system for new Mario games, new Zelda games, and the ability to get old games. I was under the distinct impression that you'd be able to use the old Gamecube controller on virtually every game (motion-based or not) or at least the classic controller.
Can anyone point to a definite link that says this isn't the case?
Can anyone point to a definite link that says this isn't the case?
09-23-06 | 09:17 PM
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I have to concur with what everyone else has said. The motion sensing is not a gimmick. It is going to be integral to most of the games, including almost all first-party games (the notable exception being SSB Brawl thus far). Any Wii exclusive game will most likely use only the motion sensing, because that's the crux of the system.
The fact that you can't use a more traditional control scheme actually means that the motion sensing will be less of a gimmick, though, which ends up being a good thing.
If you want games where the motion sensing is added on as an afterthought, buy a PS3.
The fact that you can't use a more traditional control scheme actually means that the motion sensing will be less of a gimmick, though, which ends up being a good thing.
If you want games where the motion sensing is added on as an afterthought, buy a PS3.
09-23-06 | 10:40 PM
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See, I think it's silly and dumb (just my opinion, not threadcrapping) to wave a remote around the TV for hours at a time. I could've sworn that the old-style controllers could be used for these games...I'm glad I know now before buying the system, though. Wish I hadn't sold my Cube...ah well. I'll just buy a used Cube and Twlight Princess.
09-24-06 | 12:17 AM
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What's the word on Wii Orchestra? Any advance "reviews" on how it plays? I've seen the videos and all of that, but I haven't actually heard anyone really say what they thought of it. This might sound stupid, but that's one of the games that I'm most looking forward to.
09-24-06 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BrentLumkin
What's the word on Wii Orchestra? Any advance "reviews" on how it plays? I've seen the videos and all of that, but I haven't actually heard anyone really say what they thought of it. This might sound stupid, but that's one of the games that I'm most looking forward to.
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09-24-06 | 01:34 AM
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There are a number of videos on YouTube of people playing the game, but I don't know who they are or where it's at:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aYZah8P-U1Q
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nYSM2ThdgvU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iWFoM2mL_-E
I want that game bad, and I want it right now.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aYZah8P-U1Q
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nYSM2ThdgvU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iWFoM2mL_-E
I want that game bad, and I want it right now.
09-24-06 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BrentLumkin
There are a number of videos on YouTube of people playing the game, but I don't know who they are or where it's at:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aYZah8P-U1Q
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nYSM2ThdgvU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iWFoM2mL_-E
I want that game bad, and I want it right now.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aYZah8P-U1Q
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nYSM2ThdgvU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iWFoM2mL_-E
I want that game bad, and I want it right now.
09-24-06 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by abrg923
See, I think it's silly and dumb (just my opinion, not threadcrapping) to wave a remote around the TV for hours at a time. I could've sworn that the old-style controllers could be used for these games...I'm glad I know now before buying the system, though. Wish I hadn't sold my Cube...ah well. I'll just buy a used Cube and Twlight Princess.
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=342482
09-24-06 | 01:53 AM
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I never quite understood why some people couldn't see that the DS was going to be quite huge. Just the concept of the touch screen, with Nintendo behind it all, was enough to get me to stand up and take notice. I am the exact same way with the Wii right now. I see that many people don't get how the concept will lead to some really awesome things, but I really believe that we're in for some truly special gameplay features, and we'll all be saying "holy crap" quite a lot.
09-24-06 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I would say try an in-store demo before you decide to never buy a Wii. Apparently the controls are a lot more intuitive and fun than you might think.
09-24-06 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BrentLumkin
I never quite understood why some people couldn't see that the DS was going to be quite huge.
09-24-06 | 07:28 AM
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Personally I thought the DS was a stupid gimmick, especially when the only video I saw of it being used was Warioware. But then Phoenix Wright turned my world upside down. So I can see how just hearing about the Wii or seeing some very short promo videos might not be convincing enough. I think the in-store demos will go a long way towards customer acceptance of the product.
09-24-06 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DarthMarino
When they initially announced it they didn't mention it would have a touch screen. They basically came out and said they were coming out with a dual screen portable and that's it.
09-24-06 | 04:40 PM
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No Wii Kiosks in Wal-Mart this year? http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/24/ru...-the-children/
Probably won't matter much as the gamer buzz should be enough to carry this through the new year with no impact to sales. But if Nintendo is going to attract new audiences, they need this thing in Wal-Mart.
Wal-Mart's electronics department layout does not have an allotment of space to demo the Nintendo Wii for the fourth quarter. Our tipster says that after asking for greater details as to why they wouldn't be installing any Wii demo units, he was told by his manager that they had "fear of some kid getting hurt or injuring others in the process of flailing his arms around."
Although "Nintendo doesn't comment on rumors" and Wal-Mart corporate hasn't answered our query, after calling numerous Wal-Marts across the country, we have confirmed that it is true that the Wii is not part of the Q4 layout.
Did Wal-Mart executives decide that the Wii was just too dangerous to demo in its stores? Is Sony paying off the world's largest retailer in an attempt to sway consumer mind-share when shopping?
Doesn't look that way. Although Nintendo and Wal-Mart won't talk, employees from various Wal-Marts have stated that they expect to get their Wii demo units in for Q1 2007 and believe it was a timing issue. They did stress that although they will not be demoing the unit, they will certainly have the Wii for sale at launch in November.
Although "Nintendo doesn't comment on rumors" and Wal-Mart corporate hasn't answered our query, after calling numerous Wal-Marts across the country, we have confirmed that it is true that the Wii is not part of the Q4 layout.
Did Wal-Mart executives decide that the Wii was just too dangerous to demo in its stores? Is Sony paying off the world's largest retailer in an attempt to sway consumer mind-share when shopping?
Doesn't look that way. Although Nintendo and Wal-Mart won't talk, employees from various Wal-Marts have stated that they expect to get their Wii demo units in for Q1 2007 and believe it was a timing issue. They did stress that although they will not be demoing the unit, they will certainly have the Wii for sale at launch in November.
09-24-06 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I would say try an in-store demo before you decide to never buy a Wii. Apparently the controls are a lot more intuitive and fun than you might think.
http://www.eurogamer.net/forum_threa...hread_id=63869
1. Neutral position - does not exist. With a mouse, you have a desk. With a controller, you have analogue extremes. With the Wii remote, you have... infinite, undefined space. I shouldn't need to explain why this is a problem (it isn't for some games, but think first-person).
2. The controller doesn't actually work perfectly. Throughout demos, I repeatedly lost my targeting reticule, had it jump around a lot, get stuck or lose its zero point (which is difficult to find). It lags as well. Playing Wii Golf, I found it impossible to actually replicate a neat swing, presumably because of incorrect controller orientation - well a golf swing is quite hard to orientate properly, and that's a complication the game shouldn't have.
3. Nobody has can keep their entire arm that steady. It's not that the controller isn't precise enough - it's that we're not precise enough. The result is an intensely wavery, shakey experience where no action feels definite or even deliberate. You may remember from SMG videos the 'star' pointer - well aiming in Metroid Prime felt just like that. All over the place. Far too loose.
2. The controller doesn't actually work perfectly. Throughout demos, I repeatedly lost my targeting reticule, had it jump around a lot, get stuck or lose its zero point (which is difficult to find). It lags as well. Playing Wii Golf, I found it impossible to actually replicate a neat swing, presumably because of incorrect controller orientation - well a golf swing is quite hard to orientate properly, and that's a complication the game shouldn't have.
3. Nobody has can keep their entire arm that steady. It's not that the controller isn't precise enough - it's that we're not precise enough. The result is an intensely wavery, shakey experience where no action feels definite or even deliberate. You may remember from SMG videos the 'star' pointer - well aiming in Metroid Prime felt just like that. All over the place. Far too loose.
i'm interested in wii, but i'll be waiting for reviews.
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09-24-06 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I hate Wal-Mart so much. Not because of this, specifically.
Originally Posted by Wick
Fuck Walmart. Shopping there is torture, because it's so dirty, and also because it's crowded with assholes.
09-24-06 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by her34
http://www.eurogamer.net/forum_threa...hread_id=63869
i'm interested in wii, but i'll be waiting for reviews.
i'm interested in wii, but i'll be waiting for reviews.
I'm not expecting the Wii control to be perfect, but if there is too much drift or loss of targeting it can add another level of frustration to games instead of making it more fun. Not to mention fatigue on games where you have your arm extended or moving for long periods of time.
Again, Nintendo proved me wrong on the DS so this may work very well with the Wii. I'm just wondering if its something where the control may be great for games like Cooking Mama and Wario Ware, but frustrating on games like Zelda and Metroid.
09-24-06 | 09:27 PM
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NOA says at least 1 million Wiis in North American for launch.
http://digitalbattle.com/2006/09/24/...north-america/
http://digitalbattle.com/2006/09/24/...north-america/