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Originally Posted by Gallant Pig
You guys seem too sensitive to any piece of criticism that comes down the shoot. It reminds me of people posting in Political Talk about the latest political rant from a celebrity, everyone jumps in to lambast the celebrity because they don't agree with the viewpoint. It's just a viewpoint, not the end of the world.
Originally Posted by jeffdsmith
I for one welcome his comments. I don't think much of them, but if everyone loved the controller I would be worried.
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Originally Posted by Gallant Pig
You guys seem too sensitive to any piece of criticism that comes down the shoot. It reminds me of people posting in Political Talk about the latest political rant from a celebrity, everyone jumps in to lambast the celebrity because they don't agree with the viewpoint. It's just a viewpoint, not the end of the world.
Plus he's a real ass, watch the video.
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Some good, some bad:
In a surprising turn of events, Nintendo of Europe's Jim Merrick today revealed many interesting tidbits concerning several Revolution features and Nintendo's online service, the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection, when being interviewed by the spanish Meristation.
First of all, Europeans will be happy to know that over 25,000 hotspots will be set up across their region and that the USB Wi-Fi Adaptors (also known as a dongle) will retail alongside Mario Kart DS for € 39.95 on November 25th. In other words: unlike America, Europe isn't forced to purchase these dongles through www.nintendo.com. Furthermore, Merrick claimed that the adaptor will be fully compatible with the Revolution.
Approximately one week ago Satoru Iwata, the current president of Nintendo, stated that they are aiming at a worldwide launch for their latest console. Merrick confirms this and added the Revolution will be released across the world within 14 weeks. What does this mean, you ask? If Japan were to get the system first, all the remaining regions (including Australia) would have to wait three and a half months (at the most) for their Revolution.
Multiplayer capabilities were also discussed. According to Merrick, the Revolution will contain a similar feature to the DS's Download Play, making it possible for multiple players to enjoy a game with only one copy. Speaking of games: no Revolution titles will be unveiled in 2005, but Merrick also said that there will be no significant differences in the graphics department when compared to the Revolution's competitors.
Finally, a word about the Revolution's backwards compatibility, dubbed as a "Virtual Console" by Nintendo. Games from different regions can be downloaded and, to make things even better, Merrick confirmed an improved framerate for N64 games, though they won't be getting any graphical make-overs. The first is great news for those who didn't have the chance to play a Japanese game that never made it over to America, such as Treasure's Sin & Punishment for example.
First of all, Europeans will be happy to know that over 25,000 hotspots will be set up across their region and that the USB Wi-Fi Adaptors (also known as a dongle) will retail alongside Mario Kart DS for € 39.95 on November 25th. In other words: unlike America, Europe isn't forced to purchase these dongles through www.nintendo.com. Furthermore, Merrick claimed that the adaptor will be fully compatible with the Revolution.
Approximately one week ago Satoru Iwata, the current president of Nintendo, stated that they are aiming at a worldwide launch for their latest console. Merrick confirms this and added the Revolution will be released across the world within 14 weeks. What does this mean, you ask? If Japan were to get the system first, all the remaining regions (including Australia) would have to wait three and a half months (at the most) for their Revolution.
Multiplayer capabilities were also discussed. According to Merrick, the Revolution will contain a similar feature to the DS's Download Play, making it possible for multiple players to enjoy a game with only one copy. Speaking of games: no Revolution titles will be unveiled in 2005, but Merrick also said that there will be no significant differences in the graphics department when compared to the Revolution's competitors.
Finally, a word about the Revolution's backwards compatibility, dubbed as a "Virtual Console" by Nintendo. Games from different regions can be downloaded and, to make things even better, Merrick confirmed an improved framerate for N64 games, though they won't be getting any graphical make-overs. The first is great news for those who didn't have the chance to play a Japanese game that never made it over to America, such as Treasure's Sin & Punishment for example.
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Merrick confirms this and added the Revolution will be released across the world within 14 weeks.
What does this mean, you ask? If Japan were to get the system first, all the remaining regions (including Australia) would have to wait three and a half months (at the most) for their Revolution.
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The first is great news for those who didn't have the chance to play a Japanese game that never made it over to America, such as Treasure's Sin & Punishment for example.
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Maybe the reason why we haven't seen any games yet (from gonintendo.com):
Miyamoto makes a mysterious statement
November 1st, 2005
Mr. Miyamoto was interviewed by Business Week Online, and most of the interview reiterated that Nintendo wants people of all ages to play their games. They do not consider themselves kiddy; they just want to appeal to all ages. The REAL big deal with the interview is in this cryptic statement from Miyamoto.
“It’s convenient to make games that are played on TVs, but I always wanted to have a custom-sized screen that wasn’t the typical four-cornered cathode-ray-tube TV. I’ve always thought that games would eventually break free of the confines of a TV screen to fill an entire room. But I would rather not say anything more about that.”
What’s up with that?! We know Nintendo is notorious for being tight lipped when it comes to information, but it is usually because they don’t want their ideas stolen. Perhaps we haven’t seen any Revolution games because the exact idea Mr. Miyamoto speaks of is in place with the Revolution. During the TGS Revolution video we see people sitting on a couch playing games, but not until the end do we see someone turning off a TV. It’s not impossible that this is an idea that is being worked on for Revolution. Why is Miyamoto being so cryptic?! Hop on over to the boards and discuss!
Miyamoto makes a mysterious statement
November 1st, 2005
Mr. Miyamoto was interviewed by Business Week Online, and most of the interview reiterated that Nintendo wants people of all ages to play their games. They do not consider themselves kiddy; they just want to appeal to all ages. The REAL big deal with the interview is in this cryptic statement from Miyamoto.
“It’s convenient to make games that are played on TVs, but I always wanted to have a custom-sized screen that wasn’t the typical four-cornered cathode-ray-tube TV. I’ve always thought that games would eventually break free of the confines of a TV screen to fill an entire room. But I would rather not say anything more about that.”
What’s up with that?! We know Nintendo is notorious for being tight lipped when it comes to information, but it is usually because they don’t want their ideas stolen. Perhaps we haven’t seen any Revolution games because the exact idea Mr. Miyamoto speaks of is in place with the Revolution. During the TGS Revolution video we see people sitting on a couch playing games, but not until the end do we see someone turning off a TV. It’s not impossible that this is an idea that is being worked on for Revolution. Why is Miyamoto being so cryptic?! Hop on over to the boards and discuss!
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Don't remember if this was posted yet: (from nintendojo.com):
A Single Cart Revolution
The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily state or reflect those of Nintendojo as a whole or any of its affiliates.
In a recent press release, Nintendo Europe Director of Marketing Jim Merrick mentioned that the Revolution will be able to play some multiplayer games with one copy of the game. Whoa. Stop and read that again: the Rev will feature single cart multiplayer in the vein of the DS. Think about what that means: at any time you can boot up your Rev and be able to play a smorgasbord of games, free. Yep, that’s right—free.
For those of you who for some reason don’t own a DS yet, single cart multiplayer works as follows:
The player who owns a game with single cart multiplayer simply boots up the game and selects the appropriate single cart multiplayer option. All other players then select DS Download Play from the main DS menu and proceed to download the game. After a few moments the game finishes downloading and all players can then play the game. Single cart play certainly lacks many of the options featured in multi-cart play, when everyone has a copy of the game. But it’s great that players can hook up and multiplay for free (what else are games for?).
Now think about what that means for the Rev. You can hop on and play other people for free all the while sampling the game to see if you like it (think of download play as a demo). Nintendo has yet to confirm whether this feature will be online or LAN enabled, but if they’re smart it will be online. Why? Because it will give gamers lots of free games to play, which will attract consumers; it will freely advertise games, since players will be able to sample the game, and if they like it, go buy it, and it will neatly sidestep a lot of piracy since gamers will have so many free games to play, they’ll be less likely to pirate the full version.
Do you hear me Nintendo? Make the single cart feature online. It will be a revolution not only in economics, but also for gaming. Bring on the revolution…
A Single Cart Revolution
The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily state or reflect those of Nintendojo as a whole or any of its affiliates.
In a recent press release, Nintendo Europe Director of Marketing Jim Merrick mentioned that the Revolution will be able to play some multiplayer games with one copy of the game. Whoa. Stop and read that again: the Rev will feature single cart multiplayer in the vein of the DS. Think about what that means: at any time you can boot up your Rev and be able to play a smorgasbord of games, free. Yep, that’s right—free.
For those of you who for some reason don’t own a DS yet, single cart multiplayer works as follows:
The player who owns a game with single cart multiplayer simply boots up the game and selects the appropriate single cart multiplayer option. All other players then select DS Download Play from the main DS menu and proceed to download the game. After a few moments the game finishes downloading and all players can then play the game. Single cart play certainly lacks many of the options featured in multi-cart play, when everyone has a copy of the game. But it’s great that players can hook up and multiplay for free (what else are games for?).
Now think about what that means for the Rev. You can hop on and play other people for free all the while sampling the game to see if you like it (think of download play as a demo). Nintendo has yet to confirm whether this feature will be online or LAN enabled, but if they’re smart it will be online. Why? Because it will give gamers lots of free games to play, which will attract consumers; it will freely advertise games, since players will be able to sample the game, and if they like it, go buy it, and it will neatly sidestep a lot of piracy since gamers will have so many free games to play, they’ll be less likely to pirate the full version.
Do you hear me Nintendo? Make the single cart feature online. It will be a revolution not only in economics, but also for gaming. Bring on the revolution…
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Some more stuff about the controller from the Nintendo head of Europe (gonintendo.com):
Merrick is an information powerhouse!
November 1st, 2005
merrick01Even MORE Jim Merrick news hit the web today, just after I finished posting another one of his quotes! Mr. Merrick had some comments to make concerning sequels on the Revolution, and controller worries.
Merrick lists Metroid Prime, Super Smash Bros., Mario and Zelda sequels are progressing well. Wouldn’t it be amazing if all 4 of these games could make it out in a 3 month time span?!
Merrick also got into the discussion of the classic controller compared to the new one. Merrick makes the point that the controller shell will not just be used for retro gaming.
“This option is there for new games that will be created that are most suited to a traditional style of controller. We are not trying to say that the ‘traditional’ controller design is not valid, in fact Nintendo is responsible for most of the features that are found on today’s traditional controller like the d-pad, analog stick, rumble, et cetera.”
Now what are we to think? Smash Bros. Revolution with the classic shell? Super Mario Revolution with the nunchuck design? Nintendo, you always manage to keep us scratching our heads.
Merrick is an information powerhouse!
November 1st, 2005
merrick01Even MORE Jim Merrick news hit the web today, just after I finished posting another one of his quotes! Mr. Merrick had some comments to make concerning sequels on the Revolution, and controller worries.
Merrick lists Metroid Prime, Super Smash Bros., Mario and Zelda sequels are progressing well. Wouldn’t it be amazing if all 4 of these games could make it out in a 3 month time span?!
Merrick also got into the discussion of the classic controller compared to the new one. Merrick makes the point that the controller shell will not just be used for retro gaming.
“This option is there for new games that will be created that are most suited to a traditional style of controller. We are not trying to say that the ‘traditional’ controller design is not valid, in fact Nintendo is responsible for most of the features that are found on today’s traditional controller like the d-pad, analog stick, rumble, et cetera.”
Now what are we to think? Smash Bros. Revolution with the classic shell? Super Mario Revolution with the nunchuck design? Nintendo, you always manage to keep us scratching our heads.
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Some news about the specs (more from gonintendo.com):
Will Nintendo ever release the Revolution specs?
November 1st, 2005
It’s looking as if Nintendo will keep the specs of the Revolution a secret until someone can actually rip the system open and see for themself. According to Jim Merrick…
“While some of our competitors enjoy comparing specifications, it has little or nothing to do with how satisfied the consumers will be with the system and the games once they are released…we will probably never ‘release’ this information as we feel that it is largely irrelevant.”
Mr. Merrick makes a good point. Nintendo has told us that the Revolution will be very comparable to the 360 and PS3 in terms of what we see on screen. Do we really need to know the specs? Do the specs really matter to anyone buying the system, and even moreso, do they matter to the new crowds Nintendo will try to bring in? Personally, I do not care about the specs. If they were released, I would definitely do a news story on them, but that is as far as it would go. Would you be upset you if Nintendo never released specs for the Revolution?
Will Nintendo ever release the Revolution specs?
November 1st, 2005
It’s looking as if Nintendo will keep the specs of the Revolution a secret until someone can actually rip the system open and see for themself. According to Jim Merrick…
“While some of our competitors enjoy comparing specifications, it has little or nothing to do with how satisfied the consumers will be with the system and the games once they are released…we will probably never ‘release’ this information as we feel that it is largely irrelevant.”
Mr. Merrick makes a good point. Nintendo has told us that the Revolution will be very comparable to the 360 and PS3 in terms of what we see on screen. Do we really need to know the specs? Do the specs really matter to anyone buying the system, and even moreso, do they matter to the new crowds Nintendo will try to bring in? Personally, I do not care about the specs. If they were released, I would definitely do a news story on them, but that is as far as it would go. Would you be upset you if Nintendo never released specs for the Revolution?
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Not exactly a full disclosure here, in fact several assumptions, but for those completly clueless as to how the tech will work on the revolution controller:
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.c...revolution.htm
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.c...revolution.htm
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Originally Posted by Gallant Pig
Why won't they release the specs? That seems wrong. I don't buy a car unless I know what engine I'm getting. Same goes with anything else I buy.
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Originally Posted by Gallant Pig
Why won't they release the specs? That seems wrong. I don't buy a car unless I know what engine I'm getting. Same goes with anything else I buy.
All Nintendo is saying it that they arn't making this about "specs". Keep in mind they did the exact same thing with the Gamecube and we all know what is in there and how powerful it is/was. Any talk on the hardware details would only dillute their message, or so they think.
You have to keep in mind how this product is being positioned. Nintendo is not going to convince MS and Sony fans to switch over with their specs, so why bother? The nintendo fanboys will buy it no matter what, and Nintendo is desperately trying to expand the conventional market to people that don't give a crap about such things. The only way a Sony or MS fanboy is going to buy one is when their are games and experiences they can not live without, specs arn't going to convince anyone.
I actually know what most of the numbers mean, and I can tell you from my experience as a computer engineer at this point most of the stuff you see from MS and Sony is complete horse crap, so why bother playing a BS PR game that has little significance on your target market?
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I agree. I never compared specs, and I'm honestly glad they haven't released any so we don't have to listen to the Sony and MS fanboys all saying how they suck compared to their system.
The specs won't sell a single console as there's no doubt they'll be less impressive, and in all honesty, the people that care about tech specs are more likely to be Sony or MS fans anyway. Not the Nintendo fans, younger gamers, and non-gamers Nintendo wants to sell the Revolution to.
The specs won't sell a single console as there's no doubt they'll be less impressive, and in all honesty, the people that care about tech specs are more likely to be Sony or MS fans anyway. Not the Nintendo fans, younger gamers, and non-gamers Nintendo wants to sell the Revolution to.
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More to come?:
According to N-Sider.com, a Nintendo Representative has stated that "...we do plan to release more information about the system by the end of the year, which may include details about the games or the final name of the system."
Assuming this story is true, it suggests that the codename 'Revolution' may not be the final name of the console, and that there is still more information to be revealed.
Assuming this story is true, it suggests that the codename 'Revolution' may not be the final name of the console, and that there is still more information to be revealed.
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Specs are just marketing tactics for fanboy fodder, and to see who has the biggest penis. They don't mean a thing in the this and the next generation and are worthless in deciding which console to buy. Especially considering that Resident Evil 4 (GC and even the PS2 version) and Shadow of the Colossus look better than most next gen games, I don't think you have anything to worry about. They won't make it less powerful than the Gamecube (which packed quite a punch). I believe they're saying the games that developers will be able to create is on same scale as the PS3 and X-Box 360.
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IGN has a transcript of a press conference with NOA, and their stance on things. They don't get into Revolution until page 4-5.Article Link
It is a solid read but one thing that stood out (since we have been discussing price lately) is:
Much more has me intrigued. Almost a 180 perspective from the Nintendo of Europe interview from a while back.
It is a solid read but one thing that stood out (since we have been discussing price lately) is:
Certainly from the standpoint of being a single-minded gaming device, it will absolutely be much more affordable than any of the other competing systems, and certainly on track to launch in 2006.
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Want a free Revolution controller? Be a platinum member of Club Nintendo Japan. It really is just a remote but it's modeled after the actual unit. Damn I'm jealous.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3145560
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3145560
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Originally Posted by Outlaw
Especially considering that Resident Evil 4 (GC and even the PS2 version) and Shadow of the Colossus look better than most next gen games, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
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Here's an article on CNN that's worth reading:
http://money.cnn.com/2005/11/10/comm...column_gaming/
Quote from article:
"One thing's for sure: The Revolution will not support high definition video, a marked divergence from the path Microsoft (Research) and Sony (Research) are taking. And it's not something the company is re-thinking, despite the fervent hopes of some hardcore gaming fans.
Casual and non-gamers, the company feels, are less interested in flashy graphics than enjoyable games. And the large files that go hand in hand with high definition video result in "almost interminably long" load times for games, said Fils-Aime, something that would also be detrimental to a mainstream audience.
"What we'll offer in terms of gameplay and approachability will more than make up for the lack of HD," he said. "
http://money.cnn.com/2005/11/10/comm...column_gaming/
Quote from article:
"One thing's for sure: The Revolution will not support high definition video, a marked divergence from the path Microsoft (Research) and Sony (Research) are taking. And it's not something the company is re-thinking, despite the fervent hopes of some hardcore gaming fans.
Casual and non-gamers, the company feels, are less interested in flashy graphics than enjoyable games. And the large files that go hand in hand with high definition video result in "almost interminably long" load times for games, said Fils-Aime, something that would also be detrimental to a mainstream audience.
"What we'll offer in terms of gameplay and approachability will more than make up for the lack of HD," he said. "



