No, you have simply made yourself the topic by trolling as usual.

I guess we can all get our $200 PSPs once we find a Japanese store that offers free international shipping. I'm sure that warranty will be good in the US as well.

Whatever though, I'm done with your trolling and will keep you in the ignore list where you belong.

So that we can get back on topic, I'll repost my last post that was one post before this thread went Sony.

Ahem...


Oh really? A slot-loader that accepts and ejects mini and full sized discs?

Genius!


Now remember folks, this is a Nintendo thread. Thanks.

I'm still curious as to how this will work. Has this ever been done before?

I'm also curious if that port in the front is for the DVD add on or something else.

If there is a particular user who is annoying you with his/her trolling, just add them to your ignore list. As a matter of fact, I just added a user to my ignore list for the first time, and take it from me, it makes life (and this thread) much easier.

Back on topic...

I was a little disappointed with Nintendo's showing at E3. However, I don't think that Sony or Microsoft showed much that was noteworthy either. Just a weak E3 overall. The only thing that really got me excited was the new Zelda Gamecube game. Hopefully I'll be more impressed once Nintendo reveals more details on the Revolution.

I seriously can't wait to play chicken on that bridge with the Leader of the Boar Riders.

I was glad to see Zelda and Animal Crossing, but I definitely wished they would have showed more of the Revolution.

Off topic, I can't resist responding to this. I think others have pointed out that this logic is just wrong. First you have given an overestimated value to the accessories of $50. As others have pointed out until Sony sells the unit stand alone for $200 it is a $250 dollar console.

The gamecube was not a $30 console this Christmas because they included Mario Kart DD and an extra controller, it was still a $100 console with some great pack ins.

Back on topic, I think Nintendo still has much to show with the revolution.

Well said. if you can't walk into any given store and buy it for less than $250 than it is a $250 system. It doesn't matter what is included.

Not sure on the slot thing. I know slot loaders have never accepted 3" discs. I figured they would have one slot and a top loader for the other. I guess they figured out how to make it work though.

From Ign's hands-on with the unit: (http://cube.ign.com/articles/617/617195p1.html)

Ah, the front panel hides the SD memory card slots. Cool I was wondering what went there.

I thought the size of the 'Revolution' games would be that of typical DVD's?

12cm is the size of typical DVDs.

Preach it! Now if only people would stop quoting a particular user all would be grand.

I am just curious why they used the words "designed specifically for..."

I imagine they have some kind of encryption or something about them beyond DVDs to make them harder to pirate.

Nintendo has never said the games will be on standard DVDs. They have said repeatedly that the games will be the same size as standard DVDs, though.

From Nintendo.com:

Yes but that doesn't mean that they won't be different than a standard dvd, per se. The gamecube reads discs backwards. Wouldn't it be safe to assume that Rev. would have to do the same for backwards compatibility to work? Therefore the Rev. games may be written backwards as well. Which would make them different than a standard dvd.

Backwards? As in edge to center?

I'm not sure about that, the discs spin the opposite direction from regular DVD/CDs I believe.

Interesting. Is there some technological advantage to that? or just another anti-piracy thing?

The disc spins in the same direction, I think he meant outside to inside rather than inside to outside.

I think it makes the discs a lot harder to pirate going outside to in. I'm betting the revolution will be the same.

Dreamcast read the discs outside in, but the pirates got around that. Hopefully it will be harder to get around on the Nintendo systems.

I didn't know that. I thought DreamCast only had that area around the center which contained recognition data? And that pirates figured out how to burn that info on a CD and do a swap so you could play pirated games?

Its been a while, so I can't remember.

But the outside-in thing... I'm trying to think of a possible technological advantage. I know the GC is a notorious fast loader - I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

No the small discs are the main reason for faster load times. Reading backwards doesn't effect that.

Reading backwards must makes it very tough to burn a gc disc using a conventional cd or dvd burner (assuming one could get the blank media necessary).