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Old 07-15-24 | 05:35 PM
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Star Wars: The Acolyte (S1E08) - “The Acolyte” - 7/16/24 (S1 Finale)

Star Wars: The Acolyte - “The Acolyte" (Season 1, Episode 8; Runtime: 48 minutes)
Writer: Jason Micallef
Director: Handle M. Culpepper
Description: Confrontation and revelation await.
This better be over an hour in length and worth every minute/dollar they put into it... or not.

I started this thread a little early so that we can speculate on how this might end and added a poll to at least make this thread enjoyable.

Season One Threads:
Star Wars: The Acolyte (S1E01 & E02) - “Lost / Found” & “Revenge / Justice”- 6/4/24
Star Wars: The Acolyte (S1E03) - “Destiny” - 6/11/24
Star Wars: The Acolyte (S1E04) - “Day” - 6/18/24
Star Wars: The Acolyte (S1E05) - “Night” - 6/24/24
Star Wars: The Acolyte (S1E06) - “Teach / Corrupt” - 7/02/24
Star Wars: The Acolyte (S1E07) - “Choice” - 7/09/24
Star Wars: The Acolyte (S1E08) - “The Acolyte” - 7/16/24

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Concerning the poll, if you would please, kindly wait until after the episode airs to respond to it.

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Well I thought that was a pretty good episode…until the final five minutes. Then when green Annie Lennox comes up with the cover story? Ugh. And that final cameo we could see coming a mile away. I guess they’re leaving their options open for a Season 2 of this, but I don’t want it, especially if it’s going to just be a reversal of this season. I loved the fights, but damn that was pretty disappointing in the end.
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And I don’t understand how to respond to that poll. I did like some aspects of of the show, but it was also pretty disappointing overall.
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I thought it was awful all the way through. Like a fan-fic written by a thirteen year old. I wasn't expecting much, but it didn't even reach my low expectations.
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And I don’t understand how to respond to that poll.
It was just a bunch of quotes I selected that could cover the gamut of emotions discussed these past weeks and add a little levity to the thread. And i meant it to be a “choose more than one” poll, but that didn’t stick.

Originally Posted by Decker
Well I thought that was a pretty good episode…until the final five minutes.
Yup, me too.

Vern burying it all and blaming Sol and sensing her padawan before he popped on the Smylo Ren helmet… we saw that telegraphed from a parsec away. But which version of the story is she going to tell Master Yoda? The truth I hope.

And I really can’t believe they put in the cameo of the mysterious cave dweller… that changes quite a lot. Now we know that Qimir (aka The Stranger) is an apprentice to Darth Plagues and that Osha will be his Acolyte.

Interesting set up for Season 2 (that we will never see) and like was previously mentioned, would simply be an unwinding of what we’ve already learned.

I really wanted this series to be good… not great, just good. And while I’m not sad for watching this, I wanted a whole lot more.

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Oh, god... I hope that reveal at the end doesn't mean Qimir is Palpatine...
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So long, The Acolyte. I don't want to ever see you again, but at least the memes inspired by your cringiness have been entertaining. Honestly, how dare these monsters tease bringing Yoda into this dumpster fire of a show.

Despite the writer's best efforts, Sol did not deserve his fate. Notice how Osha is so confident the council or courts would let her off scot-free for his murder because the guy totally had it comin' to him. Karma, baby! As if killing someone posing no immediate threat instead of permitting them to stand trial was an acceptable action in that society. Get out of here.

Vernestra's talk with the senator was so on the nose with the agenda this show is pushing, as if the previous seven episodes hadn't beaten us over the head with it already. Turns out she's the biggest self-preserving asshole of all. Had Sol lived and was now adamant about testifying to the senate with total transparency about what happened to the coven on Brendok (understandably feeling it was all handled with noble intent), Rwoh would have probably had him quietly taken out anyway to keep the Jedi Order appearing beyond reproach.

Fans assume it's meant to be Plagueis spying from the cave. If so, are we to assume he discovered the ability to create life after finding these twins? No thank you. When the series title was first announced, I suspected it would center on the Plagueis and Palpatine backstory. But now I don't want Headland or any of these writers touching that part of the lore with a ten-mile pole. They've already proven they're incapable of creating interesting new Star Wars characters, much less a coherent and dramatically satisfying story arc for them.

It's a shame we were stuck with such boring and unlikeable leads as the twins. Stenberg is literally giving the audience nothing. Her face rarely changes expression, even when Mae's ship was crash landing. Notice how these hacks were trying to recreate the tension of Vader using his targeting computer to lock onto Luke's X-Wing during the trench run scene in A New Hope. They even put Mae in a similar helmet in an attempt to subconsciously drive that allusion home for the casual viewers.

Rosario Dawson's portrayal of Ahsoka has received similar (though less harsh) complaints. The level of bland stoicism with these characters almost feels intentional, as if the creators don't even want the audience to connect with them. I know the writing of the sequel trilogy resulted in a lot of flak being thrown Daisy Ridley's way, but at least she's capable of emoting on screen and they never shied away from showcasing it.

So now the Sith have random memory blocking abilities and Osha going off to train under the tutelage of the sexy bad boy is depicted as a form of loving self-sacrifice. It's literally Beauty & the Beast: "Let my papa sister go. Take me instead." Only the Beast never slaughtered a bunch of people before vulnerably stripping down and exposing his penis to Belle.

Also, a lightsaber can now change color based on the wielder's inner conflict? Like it's a mood ring? What kind of fanfic nonsense is this? BTW, this episode made it obvious to me that Qimir's helmet must have been purposely modeled after a gimp mask. I bet the designers thought they were clever, like: The normies won't get it, but we will! *tee-hee*

So final verdict on the season:
Spoiler:

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This surpassed Obi-Wan as the worst of the Disney+ Star Wars shows for me.

I started laughing when the lightsaber changed colors

I agree that we all knew that Yoda coming. Plagueis popping up is about the only thing that makes me interested in another season, they just need to replace Headland and Stenberg.
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As someone that never watched any of the Clone Wars stuff or red any of the novels or played any of the games... I thought it was ok. The Sol/Qimir fight was cool tho. But yeah, some Jedi are assholes.
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I like Alex’s (Star Wars Explained) optimism for this series in putting pieces together and making connections to lore, but I don’t share his enthusiasm. This season had potential but it did not deliver. The budget was overblown for what was given… heck, even the Jedi posse in this last episode was mostly human or humanoid. I was hoping for a bit more alien diversity (but that was probably saved for the scene where Vern threw Sol under the bus with the pretty people).

I’ve said it before, but I’d like someone to edit this series into a better movie (like someone did with Obi-wan).
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Speaking of the Jedi posse, I did think it was funny that green chick told them to set up a perimeter at 5 clicks and instead they all just followed along in a big crowd behind a mole man who was brainwashed earlier in the episode.
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Also the ending : Mae had to stay behind, get brainwashed and say goodbye to her sister -- why again? Wouldn't it have been quicker, easier and less traumatic to take her with you to your "Mystery Planet"?
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To be honest, I was hoping that both sisters would fall into the giant hole where the convergence was supposed to be, and have the emerge as a singular strong individual bound with both light and dark… That would’ve been wicked.

”Two live as one!”

Also, why do the leads always need to be human? If they had used a humanoid species with prosthetics, the younger actors could have looked more alike and the effects not so heavily relied upon.
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Yeah that was pretty meh overall for a finale and a series. Had some entertaining parts but it was definitely not up to the quality of Andor or Mandalorian.
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There is no way in hell we will see a sequel to this. I would feel extremely sorry for the new writers and director. What a giant hole they would be to dig out of. lol

It had very, very few cool moments but overall was terrible.
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There is no way in hell we will see a sequel to this. I would feel extremely sorry for the new writers and director. What a giant hole they would be to dig out of. lol
This a pretty big hole… 🤣



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What really annoyed the hell out of me was Mae avoiding being told important backstory from Sol for no logical reason, other than the writers feebly wanting to drag it out for suspense:

"The truth about Brendok that I've waited sixteen years to hear? Nevermind, the power just came back on."

"Osha's not my sister? We're actually two halves of... eh, who cares? I'll just tase your ass and jump in the escape vessel rather than let you speak for three more seconds
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Plagueis popping up is about the only thing that makes me interested in another season
Since the old EU was thrown out and they've only been drawing from it selectively (Thrawn, for instance), I was keeping my fingers crossed that if Darth Plagueis ever did show up in live-action they would take the opportunity to change his species.

In the old canon, he was established as being a Muun - like that goofy CGI long-headed Banking Clan alien from Attack of the Clones. Too my displeasure, it appears they chose to stick with that here (judging by the shadowy glimpse we were shown). Not that I want or expect this show to continue, but I was hoping they'd give us a better designed and practical Plagueis on screen one day.

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A truly shameful effort and product from Lucasfilm. A few of the actors did a reasonable job, but other than that there is not much that is at even a professional level. (certainly considering the reported cost) But as I have said - quality is not the main focus at the studio. This was the show that was greenlit and delivered, and I predict a season 2 will be coming - because standards and merit are not the deciding factors as Lucasfilm is currently run.

I truly hope we've reached the bottom of the barrel and Skeleton Crew turns out to be a fun show. Wasn't a quote that really nailed it for me, "I fear something terrible has happened" was closest. But in fact I know something terrible has happened...

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Oh, god... I hope that reveal at the end doesn't mean Qimir is Palpatine...
Star Wars has somehow always suffered from small universe syndrome. So if the shadowy figure is Darth Plagueis the Wise, of course he's Palpatine.

Overall I'd say this series was a swing and a miss. High Republic stuff (does only a century BBY count?) has soooo much potential, but this was afraid to step too far outside the Skywalker Saga. The biggest single problem was the convoluted way the story was told. If it had been more linear, clearing up Osha and Mae's childhood in the first episode or so, it would have played a lot better. Casting wasn't the greatest, either. Too many forgettable side characters, and bringing in a Kylo Ren clone for the supposed big bad was stupid.

However, there were several things to like in this. Cool lightsaber battles, a Wookie Jedi, a mystery, albeit solved too quickly, and a really cool lightsaber whip. I also enjoyed seeing the Jedi challenged by the senator, showing that there were cracks in their facade of selfless righteousness.

Things they could have improved upon: apart from the aforementioned story structure, there were too many side characters. Sol was unnecessary, as Vernestra could have fulfulled the same purpose giving a previously established character a stronger and more complex live action debut, Obviously, she would have survived, and how cool would her lightsaber whip vs the dual sabers of Kylo Jr. have been. Jedi Master Forehead was a completely unnecessary cameo, but the quick one at the end worked, and would have worked even better if Vernestra had had a more active role in the events of the show.

I'd be willing to bet this gets one more season, if for no other reason than to properly introduce Plagueis and establish Kylo Jr. as Palpatine. The director said they had ideas for seasons 2, 3, and even 4(!) but I imagine all that will be condensed into one more season.

Keep trying, Disney. You hit it out of the park with Rogue One, The Mandalorian, Andor, and The Bad Batch. You can make good star wars when you stay focused.

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Also the ending : Mae had to stay behind, get brainwashed and say goodbye to her sister -- why again? Wouldn't it have been quicker, easier and less traumatic to take her with you to your "Mystery Planet"?
it's because of that dumbass Rule of Two. Hell, I remember being disappointed in the theater 25 years ago when they trotted that one out. Was looking forward to epic Sith/Jedi battles.

And even with that, there are three people on the sith planet now anyhow.
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Speaking of the Jedi posse, I did think it was funny that green chick told them to set up a perimeter at 5 clicks and instead they all just followed along in a big crowd behind a mole man who was brainwashed earlier in the episode.
Was the tracker supposed to be sentient, or just some sort of trained animal? One of the more confusing choices in this whole thing.
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Also, a lightsaber can now change color based on the wielder's inner conflict? Like it's a mood ring? What kind of fanfic nonsense is this? BTW, this episode made it obvious to me that Qimir's helmet must have been purposely modeled after a gimp mask. I bet the designers thought they were clever, like: The normies won't get it, but we will! *tee-hee*
Isn't the new canon that red lightsabers have crystals that are "tortured" and "bleed", turning them Sith Red? If so, Mae's hatred and anger towards Sol would have passed down into the saber, corrupting the crystal.

I think the whole bleeding crystal thing is shit-all stupid, but that's the canon we're dealing with.
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Isn't the new canon that red lightsabers have crystals that are "tortured" and "bleed", turning them Sith Red? If so, Mae's hatred and anger towards Sol would have passed down into the saber, corrupting the crystal.

I think the whole bleeding crystal thing is shit-all stupid, but that's the canon we're dealing with.
Osha's. But yes, the only way a lightsaber turns red is if a Sith makes the crystal bleed. I actually thought that was kind of cool.
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Originally Posted by Jason
Star Wars has somehow always suffered from small universe syndrome. So if the shadowy figure is Darth Plagueis the Wise, of course he's Palpatine.
Nope, he’s not. Qimir can’t be Palpatine.

Palatine was born on Naboo in 84 BBY. The Acolyte takes place in 132 BBY.

Darth Plagueis will dump Qimir and eventually take a new apprentice later.

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Osha's. But yes, the only way a lightsaber turns red is if a Sith makes the crystal bleed. I actually thought that was kind of cool.
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