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Old 11-14-11 | 02:07 PM
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No comments about the napalm scene? I want to watch more flashbacks and find out what happened to the military.
Old 11-14-11 | 02:12 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Shady12
What would the reasoning be for keeping a barn full of zombies?
In the comic:
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Hershel had convinced himself that the zombie apocalypse was caused by a virus, for which a cure would be found eventually. He was against killing the zombies, and instead lured them into the barn every time one wandered onto his property. His reasoning was that these people were just sick, and when the day came that a cure was available, he would cure all of them. If he killed them, he believed that was no different than murder.

There have been little hints at that in various conversations on the show, so it will probably be for the same or similar reasons.

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Old 11-14-11 | 02:28 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

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What would the reasoning be for keeping a barn full of zombies?
Where else should he put them? In his house?
Old 11-14-11 | 02:35 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by mnementh
No comments about the napalm scene? I want to watch more flashbacks and find out what happened to the military.
Loved that bit.

Also really enjoyed the episode. The near-dialogue-less sequences with Darryl were riveting. Seriously, Reedus deserves an Emmy nod. And LOVE Rooker. That was a crafty way of bringing his character back and giving some great backstory on Darryl's character and motivations.

I don't mind that that there isn't wall-to-wall zombie killing action. That to me would grow old far faster than those moments of character development so, you know, when the undead horde does arrive, I'll actually care about the fate of the victims (except Andrea who needs to die NOW).

Only nitpick was the same one someone mentioned upthread: The shooting of Darryl was WAY too obvious. Had Andrea plugged T-Dog (who offers nothing to the show) in the back, I would have been far more surprised.
Old 11-14-11 | 02:44 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Some speculation based on the books. Not really spoilery, but just in case...
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The funny part is Andrea is one of the best characters in the comic now. They are giving me enough clues that they are setting her up to become the person readers know her as that I'm putting up with her TV version well enough. I think the comic version sorta stumbled her way into it because Kirkman didn't have a clear path set up for her, but now that the writers have her path set up they can go backwards and give us early moments we never had before. Originally she was basically just "Blonde Red-shirt #1" with not much to do, I like that they are giving her a base-line of "useless" so we can watch her grow.
Old 11-14-11 | 03:29 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Navinabob
Some speculation based on the books. Not really spoilery, but just in case...
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The funny part is Andrea is one of the best characters in the comic now. They are giving me enough clues that they are setting her up to become the person readers know her as that I'm putting up with her TV version well enough. I think the comic version sorta stumbled her way into it because Kirkman didn't have a clear path set up for her, but now that the writers have her path set up they can go backwards and give us early moments we never had before. Originally she was basically just "Blonde Red-shirt #1" with not much to do, I like that they are giving her a base-line of "useless" so we can watch her grow.
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Yeah, but in the comic book she's in her late 20s or so and kinda hot. The actress they got to play her on the show is damn near 40 and I want to punch her in her stupid face.
Old 11-14-11 | 05:38 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

So a starving zombie sees a passed out/dead person laying there all for himself and he begins by starting to eat through his shoe? Gee, lucky for Daryl.

How can they make Andrea that stupid? For reasons already mentioned, it's ridiculous. And Dale comforts her by saying "Don't be too hard on yourself... we all wanted to shoot Daryl" ? WTF? Bitch-slap some sense into her instead of coddling her. And Daryl seems to be the only character with any sense in the show.

Can we go an episode without someone getting a major wound? T-Dog cuts his arm up deep, Carl gets shot and now Daryl gets an arrow through him and gets grazed with a bullet.

I don't think Sophia is lost... she couldn't handle the writing and just took off.
Old 11-14-11 | 06:18 PM
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Some of you must have the most worthless and empty lives to continuously watch a show and, week in and week out, berate the show for any and all reasons necessary. And don't start with the "I'm watching it, hoping it turns around" horse shit. We are nearly a season and a half deep, and this whole "I'm going to make a bulleted list of what is unbelievable/lame/lazy writing" has gotten so tiresome. I believe half the people who quit posting here finally stopped watching, and the other half got so sick and tired of hearing the same people constantly look and pry for stuff to gripe about.

That being said, this episode was probably one of my favorite this season. The show is not super-smart by an means, and is still trying to find its stride. Some of the writing is silly/lazy/weak, but the whole zombie apocalypse thing has kept me hooked. Hopefully the man and his son from Atlanta in the first season, along with Merle, do show up soon. And no, Andrea isn't lazy writing. It's called writing a stupid, dumb-as-rocks character who couldnt even kill herself the right way. She is constantly screwing up, and makes the worst decisions in the simplest of situations. She is a moron. An idiot. There is nothing to hate the writers for: they made us all hate her. And Dale, I hate him just as much. At this point I'd love to see Darryl and Shane just kick ass. Rick's "inner torment" stuff about anything and everything is getting on my nerves too. Geez, nut up.

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Old 11-14-11 | 08:10 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Reading message after message about this show being boring makes me feel like a survivor in an ADD Apocalypse.

Good grief, this isn't a movie where they need to find a new place to stay every 20 minutes. I don't want every place they can stay at exhausted so fast that we barely see it and make the series end the quickest. How many episodes where they camped at that same spot in the first season? This the 4th episode we've seen the farm. And I suspect the zombies in the barn are going to break loose next episode or the one after that forcing them to get back on the road again.
Old 11-14-11 | 08:24 PM
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Anyone else think they're gonna pull a Killing and at the end of the season you STILL don't know what happened to the little girl?
Old 11-14-11 | 08:32 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Coral
I don't think Sophia is lost... she couldn't handle the writing and just took off.
Looking back at your posting history on this show, you haven't liked a single episode. Watch something else. Move on with your life. Your posts are tiresome.
Old 11-14-11 | 08:34 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Anubis2005X
Anyone else think they're gonna pull a Killing and at the end of the season you STILL don't know what happened to the little girl?
I think it would be interesting if the group finally decided to move on and we never found out what happened to her. She just wandered off into the woods and disappeared. Some mysteries are never solved.
Old 11-14-11 | 08:52 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

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I think it would be interesting if the group finally decided to move on and we never found out what happened to her. She just wandered off into the woods and disappeared. Some mysteries are never solved.
That would be more preference. That or she is a zombie.
Old 11-14-11 | 09:02 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Anubis2005X
Anyone else think they're gonna pull a Killing and at the end of the season you STILL don't know what happened to the little girl?
I guess I can delete that from my DVR now. Please don't post spoilers for other shows.
Old 11-14-11 | 09:03 PM
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So a few episodes ago people complained that T-Dog's injury was too minor, but the next episode they addressed that he had an infection. Now the complaints are that too many people are getting injured? On a show like this?
Old 11-14-11 | 09:16 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by mnementh
No comments about the napalm scene? I want to watch more flashbacks and find out what happened to the military.
I like the pattern they've gotten into of showing a flashback scene before the opening credits.



Originally Posted by floundering
That would be more preference. That or she is a zombie.
She's in the barn.
Old 11-14-11 | 09:43 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by bluetoast
So a few episodes ago people complained that T-Dog's injury was too minor, but the next episode they addressed that he had an infection. Now the complaints are that too many people are getting injured? On a show like this?
People will complain no matter what they do. If they are moving to a new place without being forced to because of being attacked by zombies, there would be crying why they didn't just stay where they were. There are already people crying that they have stayed at the farm way too long.
Old 11-14-11 | 09:44 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Mr. Salty
Looking back at your posting history on this show, you haven't liked a single episode. Watch something else. Move on with your life. Your posts are tiresome.
If the show were outright horrible, I would no longer be watching. Obviously there's enough stuff in the show that keeps me interested enough to continue watching (ie. apocalyptic scenarios, survival, etc).

Posting issues with episodes isn't a big deal.

I've actually grown tired of posts telling others to stop talking about issues with the show. I think it's time YOU move on with YOUR life and stop reading the threads as you can't seem to take criticism of a show you like.
Old 11-14-11 | 09:46 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

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Now the complaints are that too many people are getting injured? On a show like this?
If the injuries were zombie related, it wouldn't be a problem. But the 3 injuries I've mentioned weren't even the results of zombie attacks - just sheer stupidity of the characters.
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Originally Posted by John Slider
I guess I can delete that from my DVR now. Please don't post spoilers for other shows.
Ehh, it's coming back for another season and the producers said they're not finished with that mystery. I'll be more cautious in the future, but no need to delete over what I had in my post...
Old 11-14-11 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by John Slider
I guess I can delete that from my DVR now. Please don't post spoilers for other shows.
I don't think that is really a spoiler. Frankly, if that keeps you from watching The Killing, I think the poster did you a favor.
Old 11-14-11 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Coral
If the injuries were zombie related, it wouldn't be a problem. But the 3 injuries I've mentioned weren't even the results of zombie attacks - just sheer stupidity of the characters.
Not that this show is realistic at all, but I think that for people living in that situation, casual injuries/self inflicted injuries/violence amongst each other/etc would be a very real and scary threat. You have no ambulances, real doctors, good medicine. Twisting your ankle or getting the flu could mean the death of you.

I think that's really interesting and it's also why I kind of wish Daryl had been killed. Just that finality of it, that reality of the situation hitting them. As it stands it feels like the show is playing it a little too safe imo, two characters have recovered from gunshots in a short period of time. I'd like to see more emphasis on danger and death. A little more realism.

But I'm really enjoying the show.
Old 11-14-11 | 10:53 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Shazam
Most of the content in previous threads were people complaining about the show.

I guess they've dropped out. Thank god.
Originally Posted by FuQ
Then stop watching and then coming here and posting about how you don't like the show. It is quite simple actually. I don't get why you watch it at all.
Originally Posted by StephenX
Some of you must have the most worthless and empty lives to continuously watch a show and, week in and week out, berate the show for any and all reasons necessary. And don't start with the "I'm watching it, hoping it turns around" horse shit. We are nearly a season and a half deep, and this whole "I'm going to make a bulleted list of what is unbelievable/lame/lazy writing" has gotten so tiresome. I believe half the people who quit posting here finally stopped watching, and the other half got so sick and tired of hearing the same people constantly look and pry for stuff to gripe about.

That being said, this episode was probably one of my favorite this season. The show is not super-smart by an means, and is still trying to find its stride. Some of the writing is silly/lazy/weak, but the whole zombie apocalypse thing has kept me hooked. Hopefully the man and his son from Atlanta in the first season, along with Merle, do show up soon. And no, Andrea isn't lazy writing. It's called writing a stupid, dumb-as-rocks character who couldnt even kill herself the right way. She is constantly screwing up, and makes the worst decisions in the simplest of situations. She is a moron. An idiot. There is nothing to hate the writers for: they made us all hate her. And Dale, I hate him just as much. At this point I'd love to see Darryl and Shane just kick ass. Rick's "inner torment" stuff about anything and everything is getting on my nerves too. Geez, nut up.
Originally Posted by mike1977
Reading message after message about this show being boring makes me feel like a survivor in an ADD Apocalypse.

Good grief, this isn't a movie where they need to find a new place to stay every 20 minutes. I don't want every place they can stay at exhausted so fast that we barely see it and make the series end the quickest. How many episodes where they camped at that same spot in the first season? This the 4th episode we've seen the farm. And I suspect the zombies in the barn are going to break loose next episode or the one after that forcing them to get back on the road again.
Originally Posted by Mr. Salty
Looking back at your posting history on this show, you haven't liked a single episode. Watch something else. Move on with your life. Your posts are tiresome.
Originally Posted by mike1977
People will complain no matter what they do. If they are moving to a new place without being forced to because of being attacked by zombies, there would be crying why they didn't just stay where they were. There are already people crying that they have stayed at the farm way too long.
I think we get it. You guys can continue to whine and tell us just to 'not watch the show', but here you are, padding away in the thread not even (or barely) discussing the episode.

I, and many others, will continue to watch, and each week will continue to give our opinions. If you don't like it, feel free to add each of those people to your ignore list (which would be funny since you will lose 50%+ of the posts). This is a discussion on the episode. That includes lazy writing, stupid plots, bad acting etc.
Old 11-14-11 | 10:58 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Matt925
Not that this show is realistic at all, but I think that for people living in that situation, casual injuries/self inflicted injuries/violence amongst each other/etc would be a very real and scary threat. You have no ambulances, real doctors, good medicine. Twisting your ankle or getting the flu could mean the death of you.
I expect people in a panic and the situations they're in, that it would lead to some injuries. I didn't expect them to be over the span of a few episodes and especially when zombies weren't directly involved.

I still find it odd how the characters are concerned about getting infected by the walkers and then do things that contradict it. Don't drink the water with the walker in it - but noone seems to mind that they're drenched in blood after killing them. Daryl's actions in this episode made me scratch my head. If infection is a worry - you probably shouldn't be wearing a neckless made of walker's ears around your neck. And why would Rick rip it off Daryl and put it in his shirt? Tossing it might be a better idea.
Old 11-14-11 | 11:06 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Actually yeah I was kind of wondering why Daryl was licking his fingers while eating the squirrel after punching that one zombie in the face. It was even more out of context when I was flipping channels and saw that scene while trying to figure out where AMC was during the 9 p.m. broadcast. I thought he went crazy or something!

On another note, I wonder how Monk would fare in this world. That would be some interesting television.


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