Dumb question if you did a Target Pre-order you still get the double album?

I did not know there was a Black Dog special edition Vinyl.

Missed out on that one.

All physical media is just album 1. You don't get album 2.

Not a dumb question. But no, if you pre-ordered TPD you get what you ordered TPD. The TPD Anthology does not have a physical release, at least at the moment. Just like the Midnights 3AM edition was digital only upon surprise release.

Dam so how much is album 2?

Since that was just answered twice in the immediate preceding posts, that does qualify as a dumb question.
It's not for sale, at least not yet. Outside of a digital copy of the entire 'double album", which is referred to as The Tortured Poets Department -The Anthology.

It's very good. She's ready for her feature film directing debut.
Maybe OB can figure out where Post Malone is singing now.

Now the circle is complete for me.

It didn't click with me the significance of the cameos in the video.

The Ringer put together an album Exit Survey with their staff. As always, their first question was What's your tweet-length review? I enjoyed this answer

It almost like she writes and records so much, she's not clear on what her best songs are.

what’s ur point? I like her enough to buy her albums, just a few disappointments. and, who really cares? why you would find old posts of mine to make some kind of point is beyond me.

If you hated folklore and Midnights, there’s no way you were gonna like this album. Maybe you don’t like Taylor Swift. That’s okay. There are plenty of artists I don’t care for, but I don’t pop up in their threads every few years to say I don’t like their new album after one listen.

i have at least 4 Taylor Swift albums on my phone, most of which i love. especially 1989.

Upon re-listen, I'm really struck by Who's Afraid of Little Old Me? That is a powerful track.
She really needs to work with some new producers. This stuff is sounding very Same-y. ​​
loml intro sounds exactly like exile.

And I'm not kidding when I say that she has released the same song on three albums in a row.

Listened to the entire 2 hours in the car with my kid as we drove around Houston today.
(I also listened to it on headphones by myself )

It’s weird. All of the songs are good. Like none that I’d call straight up filler… and yet a good chunk of it all sounds very… samey. That’s not necessarily a negative. Just maybe not quite what I expected, but this comes from someone who has a kid who mostly just plays random tracks all the time, rarely full albums.

So based on that, it’s fine. I could see getting bored with some of it, though. I do like the back half more than the front, starting with The Black Dog. Front half will have some decent singles, but the opening song was a weak first choice, IMO.

7 tear-soaked diaries out of 10.

I returned my CD today because I'm not getting caught in this game again and I'm not paying full price for half of an album. I will live with the digital version and burn my own CD's if I need them for any reason.

Just wait until she releases the noon version with three more songs. Then the happy hour version and the witching hour version.

Taylor Swift even makes Gene Simmons blush.

Let's be clear in the narrative. She listed a 16 track album, plus a bonus track for sale on the LP. She delivered that. The fact that she dropped a mind-boggling 15 additional tracks at 2AM doesn't take away from the official album. And while she will probably sell the bonus tracks on vinyl some day, that's not the same as trying to milk everyone to buy it twice. If she wanted to milk her fanbase for every last dime, she could have released TPD, Pt2 in 6 months and made another fortune.

Yet she has multiple vinyls, CDs and cassettes with a different track 17 and released a second digital download hours after a bunch of fans bought the first one at midnight. In economics there are models for profit maximization. With FOMO and internet clout there are even more. She’s following every single one to a T. They are going to write this into future Econ 101 textbooks because it’s a theoretical unicorn manifested.

https://www.billboard.com/music/char...235662005/amp/

Don't think there aren't a significant number of people buying multiple versions. It’s like Kevin Bacon in Animal House.



I will add that the commendable thing is the digital anthology’s price. That’s one of the few places that money was left on the table. The blow back from a higher price point and double dripping probably was reason.

To be clear, the "bonus track for sale on the LP" was actually four different bonus tracks, each one timed and available individually on a different version of the vinyl/CD, with the unstated hint being that someone would need to get each version to get all bonus tracks.
There's even an official $45 box to house all four vinyl copies together, sold separately, naturally. For those that are the target for this box, they'd be spending about $230+tax to have all four vinyl copies and the box shipped individually, since they weren't available at the same time to combine orders.

Even calling them "bonus" tracks is a bit egregious, since Swift quite literally called it a "secret DOUBLE album" herself at 2AM. That is the official version; the one in 20 years that everyone will point to as the full album release, not the single album that was intended to be half the material, unless one is willing to believe that the 15 "bonus" songs will be mostly forgotten or won't ever be singles, but I'd say that's reaching.

Putting aside the physical copies, say someone pre-ordered the digital version direct from her website for $12. or iTunes or wherever.
2AM rolls around and, oh, by the way, for $3 more, you could have had the official full album, but since there's no refunds and you can't buy the day one DLC second half of the album as an add-on, that'll be another $15 on top of the $12 you already paid. Or, in the case of iTunes, you can buy the 15 "extra" songs at $1.29/each.
At least Obi-Wanma was able to return the CD to the store; no refunds on taylorswift.com, by the way.

Ultimately, none of this really matters.
It's just capitalism. The "real money" for a mega star is in the corporate partnerships, hundreds of millions of streams, and hundreds of thousands of concert tickets and merch sold on tour, not a measly tens of thousands of physical cd/vinyl sales. You can be a fan and never pay a dime, too, but anyone can still see that this type of thing is designed to extract the most amount of money out of the only people willing to buy a physical or digital product in the first place; Just because there are more ways she could still fleece those fans, that doesn't change that it's still a genuine fleecing. It's ok to be critical of the business while still enjoying the music and art for what it is.
Personally, I only care about any of this business stuff because 1) I find it interesting, and 2) it's the only part of Taylor Swift The Brand that I take any real issue with because it's so excessive in practice, and I don't know of any other example in modern music history as outwardly and aggressively apathetic to those that are buying the stuff you're selling.

Not like she needs help with sales numbers but one thing kind of irritating with Swift is releasing bonus tracks upon multiple releases.

That basically artificially inflates her sales numbers because some of her diehard fans will buy multiple copies to have everything. She’s really kind of the queen of milking her fanbase with variants.

I like her music too so it’s not that I think she lacks talent but some of her practices I’m not a fan of. Especially when clearly she had these songs ready and could have basically just released a double album right away.

I don't follow or listen to her as what little I have heard doesn't appeal to me. But I did order this cd from her website as my daughter just HAD to have it since it came with a "bonus" track. Had I known this so-called "bonus" track was not that really much of a bonus I would have saved several bucks on the shipping and got it elsewhere. But I most definitely agree that this is nothing more than a fleecing of her fans. It's as if she saw Garth Brooks model for running up album sales with the ultra cheap box sets and said "Hey Garth, hold my beer". Except being a newer-ish artist she can get by without having to sell them at a discount like he did.

Wow, I haven’t seen the full review yet, but clearly Anthony Fantano hates this album.

Haters gonna hate.