Exactly. Who does this old lady think she is?

this seemed to piss you off enough, as if you expected it to be good going in?

Come on man

Better than Kills but still stunk. Thought for sure Corey Cunningham would survive and become the Michael Meyers of a new franchise. I guess he could wake up in the morgue if the producers really wanted to go that route. At least Michael's demise is permanent... until the inevitable reboot when the studio asks audiences to forget about this trilogy. The worst part of this movie for me was how little Michael and Laurie were in it. The best part was hearing the Halloween theme music.

I was confused by that. I thought he was being healed during those first kills and that's the implication but they don't give you a good look at the hand until later when he shows it to Allyson where it's still badly cut and she says its infected.

4 writers in the credits might have something to do with it.

not pissed off, just disappointed.

Thinking about it more, the only connection is that Myers killed his babysitter/sister, and Corey killed the person he was babysitting, which led to them being ostracized in Haddonfield, so there’s some balance crap between them. But it almost seemed like Myers “Unbreakable’d” it from Corey when first meeting him, which is ludicrous.

I do wonder if at one point Myers teeming up with Corey was meant to be all in the latter's head, but was changed in a reshoot. Basically Myers didn't spare Corey was too weak to kill him, then Corey fantasized the team up kills, confronted the aged/wounded Myers for his mask IRL, and then was finally killed by Myers.

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One thing I’ve seen talked about and kind of occurred to me when I was watching it is that the opening credits kind of felt like an homage to Halloween III: Season of the Witch.

I almost wonder if it was a subtle hint that this isn’t a typical Halloween movie and is going to have some elements of the original anthology idea by telling a different story.

Also in a way it kind of felt like a reversal of what happened in Halloween Resurrection while also redoing H20 to a degree. Laurie gets very little screen time (Jamie Lee Curtis’ choice) and is killed early on in Resurrection. In this film Michael gets very little screen time and is killed during the climax.

Admittedly I'm a very casual fan of this series, but I didn't think this was any better or worse than any of the other sequels, (though there are a couple I've never seen). I enjoyed it just fine for what it was. Some of the choices were a bit odd for the "final" film of the series, but I kind of got a kick out of Michael as the old homeless man who can barely get around. I get that's not what fans want to see with these movies, but after 12 movies, is there anything left to do with these characters that hasn't already been done? Overall I thought the new trilogy had some interesting ideas, even if the execution wasn't always great.

This might be a bit out of left field but maybe Michael Myers strength came from the people who hated/feared him. And since that hatred or fear was mostly gone, because he slaughtered half of the town, he lost a lot of the strength that was once in him. When he got that fear from looking in Corey's eyes, it gave him some strength back to see his end come to fruition. I do think as humans we have a strange sense of evil and feel that it can simply be eradicated through violence when it will persist as long as humans exist. I didn't think the movie was very good, but do agree that evil simply changes shape or the human that it exists in. Finally, Corey would have been a terrible person to have continue the franchise as a faux MM.

I saw this last night in the theater in Dolby. I was almost late to my showing because the theater concession stand was super packed. Why did I need to go to concessions? I had a free popcorn and soda and thankfully despite the 7pm showtime, the movie started at 7:30pm. AMC shows almost 30 minutes of trailers.

Anyway, back to the movie. I gave it 3 out of 5 and maybe a C/C+. I actually enjoyed this a little more than Kills even though the story was kind of all over the place.

The opening sequence where Corey accidentally kills the kid when the parents walked in brought a giant "OH SHIT!!!!" from the entire audience. There were several "Oh shit!" moments. I think watching this with an audience actually improved the experience. I think if I sat at home alone watching this on Peacock, I wouldn't have nearly the same experience.

I will say this. The Michael and Laurie story has completely run it's course. They barely had enough story between them that it was mostly relegated to a final act plot. I did think there was some potential with the Corey storyline, but it wouldn't be a "Halloween" movie if they focused on that too much and the whole relationship with him and Michael didn't really make much sense. And Allison becoming so smitten with him didn't make much sense and made her look dumb.

I was glad that Laurie had more to do here than in Kills. But, I did think the big "Showdown" kind of lacked something because as I said, they barely had enough story left to tell. I am glad it wrapped with closure. I did think she gave a decent performance for what they gave her.

The brutality of some of the kills especially after Corey snapped and getting some closure were the highlights for me. RIP Halloween 1978 to 2022.

I hope JLC enjoys her residual checks (this franchise made her very rich) and actually looks for a "good" movie next time.

To me even the kills weren’t that great. A lot of fairly run of the mill slasher stuff. The death of the kid was the most shocking. I think they used up most of the really creative kills in Halloween Kills personally.

I certainly didn’t hate it as much as Kills, but it really felt like the screenwriters were throwing shit at the wall without much regard for a plan. In both this and Kills, Haddonfield went from a typical American suburban town to, I don’t even know how to describe it. Something else that didn’t feel like it had any basis in reality. They established that Michael had superhuman/supernatural powers until the scripts didn’t need him to. The Corey shit was all over the place.

I’d probably rank the series’ Myers entries from best to worst:
Halloween (Carpenter)
Halloween 2
Halloween (Gordon Green)
H20
Halloween (Zombie)
Halloween 4
Halloween 6
Halloween Ends
Halloween 5
Halloween Kills
Halloween 2 (Zombie)
Halloween Resurrection

The idea of a bullied, bitter Cory wanting to burn Haddonfield then meeting a weakened Michael who gets stronger by Cory bringing him victims and a rejuvenated Michael back to slaughter on Halloween would've been cool but it gets so diluted with the Allison romance( I agree it made her look dumb) and the idea that Cory might be possessed and by Michael being sidelined with Cory doing the killing and the crazy confrontations with Laurie. Feel like it needed to be streamlined which adds to what others have been saying with too many cooks.

There were four credited writers for this movie. I’ve always heard that any movie that has more than two credits for writers has issues.

Also Michael living in the sewers somewhat gave me vibes of the beginning of The Revenge of Michael Myers.

As laughable as that was it was kind of a throwback to Frankenstein and the hermit and actually made a bit more sense than Halloween Ends. Michael fell down a mine shaft, crawls out and floats down a river then crashes on a hermits couch for a year. At the end of Halloween Kills Michael wasn't even injured. He had just murdered Judy Greer with full force. Now for some reason he's been lying low in a sewer for 4 years, weakened and killing the occasional drifter that passes by? And somehow those killings didn't revive him like the ones with Cory? Was he just burned out from the all the killing and needed a 4 year sabbatical?

Me too. The only sequel I love is Part 2, but probably only because I saw it as a kid. I'm sure if I'd been and adult in 1982, I would have disliked Part 2 as much (and for the exact same reasons) as Halloween Kills.

Man. People in Haddonfield are miserable assholes. Maybe it’s like a post murder spree thing.

Also I understand poor working people. But like move 50 miles down the road.

This movie is already getting trashed. I still like it.

I can't remember, how were the writers credited? With an "and" or an "&"? If the former, that means multiple screenplays by different individual writers. If they were all credited with an "&" then it means the writers all collaborated in tandem.

Michael was probably malnourished after living for 4 years in the sewer, so he might not have been at his full strength. I mean, what did eat down there? Just rats or something?

I just want to know if when he eats does he just rest his mask on the top of his head or does he actually take it off and set it to the side to fully enjoy the rat stew?

You would think that after living in the sewer for four years his victims would be able to smell him coming in time to get away.

It was cathartic to see him in the scrap metal grinder.

What was the deal with Sheriff cowboy hat? When they introduced him in the first movie I thought he'd play a larger role but they did almost nothing with him in 3 movies. Like completely forgotten about.

- Cory should've had a worse death than a little neck snap. Allison's bf got his head twisted around in the last one and he was a good dude. I wonder if they held back on a grisly death for Cory because they were considering him as a replacement for ground beef Michael.