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Old 10-13-22 | 09:08 PM
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Re: Halloween Ends (Green, 2022) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread

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What would have saved this movie, is a scene with Corey on the motorcycle with Myers riding behind him in a loving embrace. Cause how the fuck else did Myers get to these places with him
With Born to Be Wild playing.

He gave him a 30 second head start. Really this movie had a few decent ideas but some of this was head shakingly bad. I also thought they would have Corey slink off into the night for us to wonder what would become of him. Just to add to that evil changes shape bit.
Old 10-13-22 | 09:53 PM
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What the hell was this movie? Just absolutely bizarre in so many respects. I don’t even know what to think about it.

There were some good ideas like people in Haddonfield blaming Laurie for provoking Michael.

Also the stuff with Corey at least started out interesting in terms of his descent into madness by being pushed over the edge and eventually going crazy. The stuff with him and Allyson though was dumb and felt forced.

The one good thing is that this definitively took care of Michael (at least as far as this trilogy). It took some balls to actually do that. I figured both Michael and Laurie would die.

Weird movie for Jamie Lee Curtis and the character of Laurie to go out on. I feel like this trilogy overall was a mistake. The 2018 film would have been good on its own, but it didn’t need to turn into a trilogy.
Old 10-13-22 | 10:31 PM
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I actually loved it. Sure, it had cliches but I got Stephen King/Christine vibes early on with Corey and Allyson. I think that opening scene is going to be a classic among horror films. The transference and all that, I figured, was taken from the original 4-6 films and the whole Torn bullshit, without actually using Torn and all that bullshit.

Someone previously mentioned that this was one year later and folks got over it. I thought this was four years later? I hope there's an Unrated or DC on 4K disc when released. I have the novelization on pre-order for Tuesday, so it should fill in the gaps.
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Old 10-13-22 | 11:18 PM
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That opening half hour was Lifetime TV movie of the week bad. Wow. Such a disappointment. The whole Corey story was just a pile of garbage. The switching of Corey getting supernatural healing powers every time Michael was near him, to sometimes... not... made no sense. His hand wound healed and re-appeared like 4 different times.

The Corey babysitting opening happened in 2019 (one year post Halloween Kills). The rest of the movie takes place in 2022 (four years post Halloween Kills). There were some good kills in that last half hour. But boy does it not make up for that absolutely inane story wrapped around it.

The end where Allison freaks out after seeing what appeared to be Laurie having killed Corey is the dumbest shit ever. Clearly the Michael mask is right next to him. It takes one point at the mask to get Allison to realize he tried to kill her and it was self defense, and her guard would drop. Then Laurie could tell her the truth and she would realistically be more receptive to believing that. But no Laurie just cowers and cries. Because the movie needed to movie.

There were chunks of a good movie buried in there. But as a complete narrative it was terrible.
Old 10-13-22 | 11:33 PM
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I thought Kills was bad, but at least it had some crazy kills, delivered by Myers.

In this one, Myers being overpowered and allowing the mask to be taken is laughable. And that’s saying something after the last 10 minutes of Kills.
Old 10-13-22 | 11:38 PM
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The Corey and Michael team up aspect was weird too. Just a very odd thing to do when Michael has never shown anything but aggression and the urge to kill. Suddenly he sees this kid and it clicks for him?

Of course it can’t be explained either because Michael doesn’t talk so the only explanation is Laurie and the kid’s dad saying they saw the evil in his eyes. Dumb.

Also as much as I liked that Laurie final got Michael their final showdown was overall really weak. It felt rushed and anticlimactic.

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Old 10-14-22 | 12:07 AM
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Anyone notice Kyle Richards recreating the "woman yelling at cat" meme at 35:03 mark?
Old 10-14-22 | 12:22 AM
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Old 10-14-22 | 12:49 AM
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The Peacock stream early thing must be working. Look at all these responses. Lol

Ain’t no way most of you went to a theater to see this trash.
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Old 10-14-22 | 03:35 AM
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I thought it had some good stuff in it. Honestly, the first part was good. That kid was evil and Corey, not so much. He was just a strange teenager. Didn't mind the love story either. But the whole Michael and Corey teaming up, that was strange. There was nothing evil about Corey from the jump. He didn't even try to do anything to his bullies until Laurie showed up. At first I thought they did some supernatural BS that Michael's soul got into Corey's. At least they didn't do that. Middle part really needed to be worked on. Also, when Laurie took out Corey, she KNEW Alison was coming, why pick up the knife? Why not get to the door? That bugged me.

The ending, it was enjoyable to me. Part of me was hoping Laurie and Alison (by the way, WHERE did Alison's mom go???) would cut up Michael like a fish to make sure he was dead. Smart idea to slice him up though. And perfect idea to make sure his body was torn to pieces in the trash. The first part of the trilogy, when I first watched, I really enjoyed. Second part was just awful (I even forgot if Tommy died or didn't and if he didn't where was he?). This one, didn't hate it. Gave a decent ending. The whole team up thing, though, could have gone a much different route.
Old 10-14-22 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffkjoe
Now that some of you guys have seen the new reboot trilogy, do you think that:

David Gordon Green is on the same level as a filmmaker as John Carpenter?
Is this a serious question?

Out of Green's filmography, I'd only seen Your Highness (which sucks) before he was hired for these new Halloween movies. What annoys me more than anything is the hubris involved with his approach. I'm not just referring to how they ignored all continuity after the original movie, but apparently Green wanted to go as far as opening the 2018 movie with a "reimagined" version of the original film's ending - showing Loomis getting killed and young Laurie (recreated using CGI) shooting Myers off the balcony. The only reason he didn't do it was because Carpenter told him it would piss off the fans.

And what did we get as an improvement? Backwoods survivalist Laurie Strode who robbed her daughter of a childhood. All to prepare her for a showdown with the "boogeyman", who in this timeline did not give two shits about hunting her family. Their big "showdown" only came about because of a stupid plot twist involving some fanboy psychiatrist. I thought the whole tone of this trilogy (particularly the first two) felt off because of all the quirky side characters Green and McBride crammed in there as victims. You had the little boy who didn't want to disappoint his father, but just wanted to follow his bliss into a dancing career. You had the older interracial couple who played with a drone device in their kitchen. You had the middle-aged gay couple living in the old Myers house that loved listening to vintage vinyl. All of these characters felt beamed in from some cliché arthouse dramedy. Same for Lindsey Wallace, who is wasted here as a tarot card reading bartender who adds nothing to the story.

In this movie, Laurie has lost her daughter - so trying to protect her ended up being all for not. Michael is still at large and Laurie has a granddaughter to look out for. But whatever. Miss Strode is now ready to put all that behind her and rejoin Haddonfield society as a new, independent woman. Did I mentioned I really dislike her characterization in these movies? Another thing that bugs me is how Jamie Lee Curtis has gone out of her way to dis Halloween II and H20, saying she'd only been in one good Halloween movie until Green took over. In my opinion, both Halloween II and H20 are superior to anything they've crapped out for this new trilogy. The movie may have had problems, but I thought H20 was a much classier send off to the Laurie Strode character than anything they've accomplished here. But I get it: Curtis is just happy she's gotten a nice pay day out of all this. Of course she'll tear down what came before if it means building up this latest turd toward a successful opening weekend. Personally, I'll be glad to see the franchise move on without Green - though I'm dreading what he has in store for his Exorcist reboot next year.

Also, didn't Green make a big deal about Halloween Ends having a four year time jump so he could address the pandemic and how it's effected the world? Not that it was needed in a lame horror sequel, but there isn't a single reference to covid in the entire movie.

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Old 10-14-22 | 05:24 AM
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And perfect idea to make sure his body was torn to pieces in the trash.
When they tied him to the roof of the car, I thought they were going to drive his body around Haddonfield, honking the horn in some sort of victory lap. Then he would suddenly come back to life and smash through the window and kill Allyson. I kept thinking "They need to go full-on Fargo and put his body in a woodchipper". Close enough, I guess.

BTW, does anyone have ideas about how to bring Michael back if they decide to keep this continuity once the film rights revert back to Malek Akkad? My pitch: Somehow the body got switched out at the last second with that homeless man Corey stabbed to death under the bridge. They were both kinda bald and of a similar age, right?

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Old 10-14-22 | 09:04 AM
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Re: Halloween Ends (Green, 2022) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread

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The Peacock stream early thing must be working. Look at all these responses. Lol

Ain’t no way most of you went to a theater to see this trash.
It was live on Peacock at 5PM. I was still at work, so watched it right when I got home.
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I thought it had some good stuff in it. Honestly, the first part was good. That kid was evil and Corey, not so much. He was just a strange teenager. Didn't mind the love story either. But the whole Michael and Corey teaming up, that was strange. There was nothing evil about Corey from the jump. He didn't even try to do anything to his bullies until Laurie showed up. At first I thought they did some supernatural BS that Michael's soul got into Corey's. At least they didn't do that. Middle part really needed to be worked on. Also, when Laurie took out Corey, she KNEW Alison was coming, why pick up the knife? Why not get to the door? That bugged me.

The ending, it was enjoyable to me. Part of me was hoping Laurie and Alison (by the way, WHERE did Alison's mom go???) would cut up Michael like a fish to make sure he was dead. Smart idea to slice him up though. And perfect idea to make sure his body was torn to pieces in the trash. The first part of the trilogy, when I first watched, I really enjoyed. Second part was just awful (I even forgot if Tommy died or didn't and if he didn't where was he?). This one, didn't hate it. Gave a decent ending. The whole team up thing, though, could have gone a much different route.

Alyson's mom? You didn't watch Halloween Kills?
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Is this a serious question?
Yeah, it was sort of a joke question - David Gordon Green make so many questionable choices throughout this trilogy. I'm not looking forward to his Exorcist reboot.
Old 10-14-22 | 09:44 AM
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The best trilogy is still H1, H2 and H20
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The best trilogy is still H1, H2 and H20
Agreed - That trilogy provides the best arc for Laurie Strode.
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Old 10-14-22 | 12:57 PM
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Agreed - That trilogy provides the best arc for Laurie Strode.
Yeah, agreed. It was also the most believable version of her character in my opinion. To me it made sense that her character went into hiding and moved across the country and changed her name from being traumatized by the events of the first two films.

Had the studio not bungled the ending of H20 with Resurrection that would have been the perfect ending to the Michael Myers/Laurie Strode saga.

I think the new trilogy had potential but right from the start it felt a bit off. I think largely because of how long it was set after the first film.
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This was better than Kills but still not very good. For a movie that is supposed to be the "end" of two iconic characters, it didn't seem to care about them. They gave JLC more to do this time but mostly sidelined Michael. The kills were ok but sort of stupid at the the same time. Cutting off the DJ's tongue and letting it spin on the record was corny as hell. The final fight was sort of ridiculous too. They played it like they were equals strengthwise and it looked ridiculous to me.

I'm glad we don't have an open ending to this trilogy. I'd hate to see these people make another Halloween movie.
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It would have been a great ending if the last shot was Laurie putting on Michael's mask.
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Old 10-14-22 | 03:20 PM
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Hopefully if we ever get a new Friday The 13th film the entire thing is about Jason's best friend who is a hockey player who gives him his mask at the end.
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I went to the matinee this afternoon, the first of ten showings they're having today. Seven other people in the audience, which is more than I can remember seeing for a noon showing. They have this in one of the smaller theatres, as Smile seems to be doing really good and got moved back into their biggest auditorium.

I liked a lot of this. There's a hundred things I thought were stupid, but honestly, I wasn't bored through the entire movie (something I can't say about the previous two). Like Why So Blu?, the Corey character reminded me of Arnie and Christine. The opening scene of his babysitting was great. Oddly, or perhaps unsurprisingly, the parts of the movie I thought worked best were the non-Michael Myers stuff. I briefly wondered if he wasn't going to be in the movie at all beyond his sewer cameo.

I missed a lot of in-jokes (like the cat meme), but the one that stuck out for me was the muzak version of "Don't Fear The Reaper" playing in the grocery store. Michael in the sewer pipe with the bum living outside reminded me of Part 5, where he lays in the bums shack apparently catatonic for a year.

I expect a lot of the audience will react negatively to this due to advertising, which focused all on a Michael/Laurie confrontation. On the one hand, I don't like ads that give away too much, but on the other hand, if you advertise hamburgers, but after people have paid their money you serve them spaghetti, even people who like spaghetti might feel ripped off.
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I think the thing is that the movie isn’t necessarily bad if you’re looking at it as it’s own thing. As a Halloween movie though and especially one that’s putting an end to the Michael/Laurie chapter of the story it’s just filled with weird choices.

It’s like they ran out of ideas but had another idea for a movie so they made that and threw Michael in at the last minute.
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I think the thing is that the movie isn’t necessarily bad if you’re looking at it as it’s own thing. As a Halloween movie though and especially one that’s putting an end to the Michael/Laurie chapter of the story it’s just filled with weird choices.

It’s like they ran out of ideas but had another idea for a movie so they made that and threw Michael in at the last minute.
My wife said it was like they were writing one movie and then someone reminded them that laurie and michael had to fight at the end.
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Why didn’t Judy Greer do this movie? I know she was killed offscreen, which usually means wasn’t asked back or she didn’t want to, etc…do next one or last one for some reason.


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