Ranger

Think Rogue One will get any Academy Award nominations/wins?

IIRC, the Force Awakens had three nominations but didn't have any wins.

kefrank

Maybe a nomination for visual effects. I doubt it would get any others.

mcnabb

On one hand I agree with you that the internet breeds negativity that lends to picking apart movies with a fine tooth comb.

On the other hand, you have to admit that blockbuster movies pretty much suck compared to 20-30 years ago.

I stated earlier in this thread that biggest problem with present day blockbusters is a director has the tools to do anything he or she wants and they have forgotten about a good script and character development.

Rogue One was an entertaining movie, but honestly the characters are forgettable, there are no memorable lines either. The only memorable scenes seem to be for the Darth Vader fans who cream their pants at anything he does in the suit.

Blockbusters in the 70's & 80's had memorable characters like Indiana Jones, Marty McFly, Luke Skywalker, etc. Can anyone name a new character in Rogue One that we will talking about 20 years from now?

Can anyone name a memorable line or scenes in this movie? Back to Future had, "You built a time machine...out of a Delorian?". Indiana Jones had the classic where the guy wields the Machete for 20 seconds and Indiana shoots him.

Rogue One is an entertaining movie, but its as bland as 99% of blockbusters today. Most are forgotten because they rely on big action sets and forget that the characters and story are what's really important.

I'm probably in the minority because blockbusters like The Avengers, Captain America, and Rogue One make loads of money, so maybe that's what people want? I find them generic and forgettable.

stp115

I liked the FCH article, but disagreed on a fair chunk. Maybe I'm just too used to reading multi-book fantasy series, but I felt that this entire movie was meant to smooth the transition from the 3rd movie to the forth, and personally, I think that it does. The Vader base visit was (in my mind) meant to drive home the ever widening gulf between the military side of the empire and the force side. The emporer used both, but they each fought for supremacy throughout the series. Krennic showing up and being all smug was a way to drive home how the gulf had become so wide by episode 4, especially since Anakin was coming from episode 3 where he was an active part of the military. Now, if you want to say that the plot should have a payoff in the same movie, that's fine. Like I said, I enjoyed the Wheel of Time series, sometimes you'd be left with a cliffhanger for 2 or 3 books.

One last example, FCH complains that even with specific info, the rebellion doesn't want to unite to rebel. Which is true. But to me, this movie was meant to showcase the rebellion crystalizing and coming together. At the end of 3, they had just split off. R1 shows them slowly being crushed, and presumably demoralized. 4 is called a new hope, referencing the plan to destroy the death star. A rebellion slowly losing would naturally lose cohesion and focus. They'd also splinter into more conservative groups and more fanatical groups. I can totally see the mindset of some always saying, "we need more information before we do anything" - the ones that had been burned by losses, and the ones who said, "let's do this" who had nothing to lose. Or loose if you wanted more typos. Then they came together at the end because they eally did have new hope.

He was dead on with the Vader pun though. I can't think of someone swing and missing on a character who had 6 movies worth of development worse, even if it was in a small way.

slop101

Nostalgia lens.

While there were certainly some great blockbusters in decades past, there were just as many shitty ones as there are today, probably even worse.

Time makes the crap fade.

milo bloom

I'm seeing the blind monk's mantra being used in all kinds of memes, "I am one with the Force, the Force is with me."

mcnabb

No doubt there has always been shitty blockbusters, no argument here on that.

Can you name a blockbuster in the last 5 years that you would consider a classic?

B5Erik

Just off the top of my head...

The Avengers
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Star Wars TFA

...and I'm sure I can come up with another 5 or 10 if I really had time to go over the blockbusters from the last 5 years.

mcnabb

I knew you would bring the same old boring comic book movies.

That kind of proved my point as these comic book movies rely solely on big action sequences and CGi. Can you give me one line or dramatic scene that people will be talking about 20 years from now?

I liked the Force Awakens, but let's be honest it's a take off the Original Star Wars.

EddieMoney

I see this has devolved into a bickering thread. Shocking!

Why So Blu?

BTW, Tarkin was doubled by this guy:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0377844/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t7

slop101

The guy that played Scorpious in Farscape played Tarkin at the end of Episode 3, and they only showed him in a far shot with no lines. They should've just done the same thing, with maybe a couple lines, but still have the camera keep it's distance.

B5Erik

Puny God. Flying monkeys - I got that reference! That man is playing Galaga. Hulk casually punching Thor after wiping out a group of Chitauri. Etc, etc, etc. And that's just one of those movies...

EddieMoney

Glad to see at least one person enjoyed "Suicide Squad."

Big Boy Laroux

Well, that's only "memorable" because we heard it about 100 times. Personally, it started to grate on my nerves a bit.

Mabuse

"What are you looking at, butthead?"

Joe Schmoe

Mine too.

Why So Blu?

Because he's Asian, right? If it were someone else y'all would think it's clever. #amirite

Joe Schmoe

Um, no... it's not clever (and it's certainly not about race.) The fact is, if he's one with the Force then obviously the Force is with him. The second part isn't necessary.

Mabuse

What the hell? You just said a similar thing over the politics forum. Cut it out.

Why So Blu?

Relax - I was being sarcastic.

Why So Blu?

The Force is with him, because he's scared? Does that work or no?


Seriously, the nitpicking over stupid shit on here as of late is hysterical. SMH

Abob Teff

An interesting take on Chirrut that I have not heard elsewhere ... It's obvious things changed dramatically as Lucas progressed from film to film, but early in the saga The Force is maligned as an "ancient religion". Even before the PT, we knew the Jedi were crucial to peace in the Galaxy though. So how have we gone from one end of the spectrum to the other?

I have questioned this jump -- how we went from the Jedi being protectors of the Galaxy to The Force being almost completely forgotten and now back to searching for Luke as a key to survival. While I feel the timing of this history is too compressed in the saga (for something so important to pass from memory), this addition of a cadre of "temple protectors" after the fall of the Jedi helps to enrich the lore that I want more of. I like the addition of characters like Chirrut who are not "Force-users" but have held on to the beliefs and practices of the Jedi, as well as some Force sensitivity.

Mabuse

i posted this in Force Awakens thread.

Abob Teff

Thanks Mabuse! I'll check it out! I enjoy This American Life, but don't listen to it regularly.

I suppose it does make sense ... I tried to instill some sense of history in my kids as they grew up, but the school system won out and they are clueless.