Originally Posted by Guru Askew

I've never once argued with someone over whether a cameo appearance is an insult before. It's a brand-new argument. Certified Fresh.

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe

Thanks, I was born in 1985. Ghostbusters was probably the biggest pop culture phenomenon of my childhood. My friends and I had all of the action figures. We had the firehouse playset, the Ecto 1. We strapped the proton packs to our back and ran around looking for ghosts. We drank the Hi-C Ecto Cooler and watched The Real Ghostbusters animated series(the Boogieman episode gave me nightmares!). On road trips I had the Ghostbusters 2 soundtrack cassette on repeat in my Walkman. It was probably the first time my white bread ass was exposed to R&B and Hip Hop. To this day my friends and I watch both movies on a regular basis. Last year they released the original film for the 4k remaster. I all ready had the BD pre-ordered, but I wasn't going to pass on a chance to see it on the big screen. My friend and I took our girlfriends, to our amazement, they had never seen it!

I should have been as happy about a new Ghostbusters movie as Star Wars fans were for TFA. I read stories about the excitement viewers felt when the lights dimmed. Grown men who saw Star Wars as a kid in 1977, were now taking their children to see TFA and when the horns blared and the crawl started, they felt like a kid again. It saddens me that not only will I ever experience that feeling, but me and a legion of Ghostbusters fans have been vilified on social media thanks to a vocal minority of jerks.

On behalf of all Ghostbusters fans, I apologize for the sexist jerks, they don't represent all, or even most of us. But every fandom has a shitty subsection of creeps. That doesn't justify the level of vitriol that has been spewed right back at Ghostbusters fans in general. And to those who like to denigrate the original films to make a point, to those who keep coming in here to say "All this fuss over Ghostbusters? I like it, but it's not (insert renowned film from a completely unrelated genre and era)..' I hope this never happens to you. I hope your favorite film series isn't rebooted, with its original timeline erased, and that you don't have to suffer countless blogs calling fans of the original 'cave-dwelling knuckle-draggers' and 'mouth-breathing neckbeards.' You don't have to like Ghostbusters 2, but I'm damn sure not going to apologize for loving it, and being disappointed in the direction of this new movie.

It frustrates me that on this forum comic fans can rant and rave about Snyder and Trank freely and all is well, but Ghostbusters fans are treated like pieces of shit. I guess my franchise just isn't considered important enough like Star Wars or Fantastic Four so that fans should be treated with respect. In fact there's been an alarming amount of leniency towards those who are using snark and an insulting tone to minimize the opinions who are critical of this film. I'd like to express myself in a mature conversation, but I'm afraid my opinion will be dismissed and I'll be labeled a misogynist. Sadly, I don't feel like this thread is a safe or friendly environment for people like myself, and it goes way beyond a couple of sexist people nobody takes seriously.

Originally Posted by Supermallet

I understand that you feel differently. Clearly I had a similar reaction to Prometheus so lord knows I understand.

Originally Posted by whotony

So is Ghostbusters good or not?

Originally Posted by whotony

So is Ghostbusters good or not?

Originally Posted by fumanstan

I didn't catch that. Thanks

Originally Posted by whotony

So is Ghostbusters good or not?

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe

You should go back a page or two and read that post. It's a big comparison of the mainstream and fandom reactions to this and controversial comic book movies. This has really helped me understand where comic fans are coming from with their expectations and skepticism to adaptations. While this movie is mostly divisive, it's helped me be more empathetic to a subset of fandom I didn't relate to or really understand previously.

Originally Posted by james2025a

Why does it limit mature conversation (that actually made me laugh when i read it.....mature conversation about Ghostbusters movies.....lol)? And why is it provocative? I can understand a person being a fan of a movie, but i find it unrealistic when that person sees the movie as something other than what it actually is. The original Ghostbusters was a well made family fun comedy that did exactly what it set out to do. It is not however anything that could be analyzed for years due to its indepth storyline, world class acting or sublime postmodern characterization. I think you are completely missing the point with this discussion. I am not saying that you shouldn't treasure it, and you certainly have a personal love for it....which is great.....but don't try putting it on a pedestal next to truly great movies that are considered much more important and think it gives them a run for their money. That was the point i was making. I grew up as a Star Wars fan and was a kid at the time. To me they were my favorite movies, but as i grew up i could see them for what they are. Great movies that entertain, but they are not high art. Just because you love something does not mean any criticism thrown its way is unwarranted. Thats blindly loving something and pretty small minded if you ask me. I love discussing my favorite movies with people and hearing their opinions, and the conversations with ones who are most diametrically opposed to mine tend to the be the most fulfilling as it gives me a different perspective.


Getting back to Ghostbusters and its sequel let me give you an example. I am probably the worlds biggest Blade Runner fan. I have been watching it since it originally came out, have seen it at the cinema on numerous occasions and have watched it thousands of times. Not to mention reading many books on it, watching documentaries on it and even collecting a lot of things from it. Next year we are finally getting a sequel. How do i feel about that? Well it seems to have a lot of great people involved in it and i have high hopes. But heres the thing.........even if it sucks and is a horrible mess, i will still always have the original movie to go back to and enjoy.

Originally Posted by N2DVD

I liked it a lot, but not everyone will.

Originally Posted by fumanstan

I assume it's this post. I appreciate the read!

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/12848669-post748.html

Nicely worded and put together, and I agree with your summation about this particular movie and both "sides" of the coin, especially as someone that also thought voicing legitimate complaints regarding this movie were constantly flipped back to the sexism angle. Even now it's kind of funny to me the lengths people are going to justify the positive and negative critic reviews to support their arguments.

Originally Posted by Coral

Can't believe people here are still trying to convince others that it's a bad movie.

Most critics gave it a thumbs up. Take a deep breath, step away from the keyboard and move on with your life.

Originally Posted by VinVega

Uh oh, critics like it, viewers don't.

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt

Have you SEEN it? I thought it was bad. I wouldn't fight with someone who said it was "just okay" or "average", but I question anyone who thinks this movie is really good. And you should turn in your "critic" card if you think it's "great."

Originally Posted by Troy Stiffler

With how the pre-release buzz went, the audience rating can fuck off. No way I would ever trust that thing on this movie.