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Old 08-02-16 | 12:12 PM
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I'm sure it'd be aptly titled "Internet Message Board: A Documentary", it'll have a 100% on rottentomatoes and a 1.4 average on imdb for its first month.
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Old 08-02-16 | 12:17 PM
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Agreed, and with the establishment of Ghost Corps as a production company in March 2015, it's unlikely that they're going to cancel all their plans because this flick didn't make as much as Internet Detectives(tm) think qualifies it for future projects.
I think other financials figure into it. I don't get the comment about it making as much as "Internet Detectives think qualifies it for future projects." It either makes enough to warrant a sequel or doesn't. It's not that subjective.
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Old 08-02-16 | 12:20 PM
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I think other financials figure into it. I don't get the comment about it making as much as "Internet Detectives think qualifies it for future projects." It either makes enough to warrant a sequel or doesn't. It's not that subjective.
Popularity following theatrical release plays a big role as well (ie: Austin Powers). It didn't perform well enough theatrical to guarantee any sort of follow-up, it also didn't perform poorly enough to guarantee it's dead. Almost completely middle of the road.

In terms of profit, sales to premium channels, standard cable, and broadcast as well as home video sales, rentals, and sale to Netflix/Hulu/Amazon Prime streaming add a substantial amount. That in addition to merchandising and joint advertising sales.

However, considering how poorly sequels have been doing this year, they may want to tread carefully.
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Old 08-02-16 | 12:28 PM
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With all the "controversy" surrounding this film, I wouldn't be too surprised if it made a killing on home video/streaming.
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Old 08-02-16 | 12:36 PM
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Popularity following theatrical release plays a big role as well (ie: Austin Powers). It didn't perform well enough theatrical to guarantee any sort of follow-up, it also didn't perform poorly enough to guarantee it's dead. Almost completely middle of the road.
Except for the fact that typically movies like Austin and Pitch Perfect are smaller movies which people didn't know about and discovered on video. After the marketing blitz Sony pulled you would have to be in a bomb shelter to not know there was a new GB movie coming out and people still aren't flocking to it.

This is pretty similar to Tarzan(which I liked) and opened around the same amount. It had a huge budget, people didn't flock to it and even though it will make back it's money eventually and is out grossing GB I guarantee Warner isn't looking at doing a sequel.
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Old 08-02-16 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RichC2
I'm sure it'd be aptly titled "Internet Message Board: A Documentary", it'll have a 100% on rottentomatoes and a 1.4 average on imdb for its first month.
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Old 08-02-16 | 02:24 PM
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Agreed, and with the establishment of Ghost Corps as a production company in March 2015, it's unlikely that they're going to cancel all their plans because this flick didn't make as much as Internet Detectives(tm) think qualifies it for future projects.
There are more production companies than movies. Most have probably made only one movie.
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Old 08-02-16 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by robin2099
Ghost Corps was established for the overall GB brand as well as on the basis that this movie was going to be a huge hit.The simple truth of the matter is that this movie won't even make back its budget in the US, it didn't open at number 1 and audiences haven't exactly been excited about it. Even though it's going to turn a profit eventually most likely that won't be good enough. They pretty much have an Amazing Spiderman 2 situation here and it looks like Amy Pascal killed Ghostbusters just like she ruined Spiderman.

Somebdody really needs to do a documentary about this. It's ripe with such craziness including:

-The Sony hack
-Stonewalling Reitman and Aykroyd
-Paul Feig comes aboard
-Fans angry about rebooting the movie in the era of TFA and JW
-The on set drama
-The story about it not being any good leaking by someone on Reddit
-Controversy over Target clearencing out the Toys
-Feig attacks the fans
-Douches attacking Leslie Jones
-The GB Twitter being stupid enough to officially endorse Hillary Clinton
-How Sony actually was stupid enough to let Amy Pascall run a studio and then replaces her with equally stupid Tim Rothman

So much stuff to cover.
While I can't stand Rothman, as I blame him for much of the crap Fox made since his time there, he was at least smart enough to recognize how wreckless Sony was spending with Ghostbusters. One of the first things he did was cut ten million from the budget.
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Old 08-02-16 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by EddieMoney
I think other financials figure into it. I don't get the comment about it making as much as "Internet Detectives think qualifies it for future projects." It either makes enough to warrant a sequel or doesn't. It's not that subjective.
Yep. Sony is looking at getting back around half their budget back at this point. I do think they will try again, but it will be a different take on the material, most likely a new cast.
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Old 08-02-16 | 03:29 PM
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I too hope for a sequel. Something that jettisons everyone involved with this. There's so much potential in the Ghostbusters concept I'd hate for this to kill it. They just need to wait 4 years and then take a whole different stab at it.
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Given how badly Sony wants Ghostbusters to be a long term franchise, they may just do that. It would be a shame, but they might do it.
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Didn't see it.. don't care to see it. I'll wait until it comes out on Amazon streaming or something (How long will I wait? Like.. 2 months?).

My aunt and uncle saw it.. this was their Facebook post:

Uncle 07:35 Waiting to see new Ghostbusters! Can't wait!
Someone 07:38 Who's idea was it to go see it?
Uncle 07:40 Mine! I heard it was funny
Someone 09:30 So how was it?
Uncle 10:15 Uhhhhg
Aunt: 10:18 Should have stayed home

Some professional opinions there
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Old 08-02-16 | 11:38 PM
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Agreed, and with the establishment of Ghost Corps as a production company in March 2015, it's unlikely that they're going to cancel all their plans because this flick didn't make as much as Internet Detectives(tm) think qualifies it for future projects.
With a likely 225m worldwide finish, only BFG made less (of major films) this summer. Not sure if the juice boxes will make up for the other few hundred million...
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I too hope for a sequel. Something that jettisons everyone involved with this. There's so much potential in the Ghostbusters concept I'd hate for this to kill it. They just need to wait 4 years and then take a whole different stab at it.
Agreed. They would be smart to do that if they actually want to make some money on the franchise, and produce a decent film.
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Old 08-03-16 | 10:19 AM
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They DID produce a "decent film". It's currently at 73% on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Old 08-03-16 | 10:25 AM
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How big of a part does Michael K. Williams play in this movie? Just curious, as I am a big fan of him.
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How big of a part does Michael K. Williams play in this movie? Just curious, as I am a big fan of him.
Very small.
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Old 08-03-16 | 02:43 PM
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They DID produce a "decent film". It's currently at 73% on Rotten Tomatoes.
And significantly lower on other sites. Hell, it's even got a lower rating at Rotten Tomatoes depending on which one you look at.
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Old 08-03-16 | 02:54 PM
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And a B+ at Cinemascore.
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Interestingly enough, Ghostbusters 2 has an A- at Cinemascore.
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I take Rotten Tomatoes site as a whole with a grain of salt. Actually reading some of the "positive" reviews you get the impression that its not a quality film yet still scores 3/5 which in Tomatoes language is "fresh". Hell even here the first theatrical review reads like a 2/5 yet in the Content score its 3/5. For what reason? Who the hell knows. "Ehhh this movie was kinda garbage and too many references to the old movie and not super funny. But they tried. THREE STARS!"
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I take Rotten Tomatoes site as a whole with a grain of salt. Actually reading some of the "positive" reviews you get the impression that its not a quality film yet still scores 3/5 which in Tomatoes language is "fresh". Hell even here the first theatrical review reads like a 2/5 yet in the Content score its 3/5. For what reason? Who the hell knows. "Ehhh this movie was kinda garbage and too many references to the old movie and not super funny. But they tried. THREE STARS!"
Yep.

I have never read a more lukewarm to lukeCOOL group of, "Positive," reviews in the internet era. Based on the content of the reviews at least half of them should really have been counted as negative (they had more criticism of the movie than praise).
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They DID produce a "decent film". It's currently at 73% on Rotten Tomatoes.
But only 59% among top critics. And the majority of "positive" reviews are really "middling" reviews..."better than average", but not "really good" or "great."

Honestly, this thing could have been universally praised and no one could ever convince me it was a good movie. The only worse movie I've seen this year has been the Independence Day sequel.
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Yep.

I have never read a more lukewarm to lukeCOOL group of, "Positive," reviews in the internet era. Based on the content of the reviews at least half of them should really have been counted as negative (they had more criticism of the movie than praise).
It's extremely common, and the writers of the article picks if it's to be considered fresh or rotten. Most comedies that rate "Fresh" in fact ride that line (recent example being Central Intelligence, which is sitting at 68% fresh and has a 2.85 out of 5 average score). Ghostbusters not being an exception isn't much of a surprise.

But then all of this has been discussed to death at this point. Turns out different people have different opinions on this movie, amazing isn't it?
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I take Rotten Tomatoes site as a whole with a grain of salt. Actually reading some of the "positive" reviews you get the impression that its not a quality film yet still scores 3/5 which in Tomatoes language is "fresh". Hell even here the first theatrical review reads like a 2/5 yet in the Content score its 3/5. For what reason? Who the hell knows. "Ehhh this movie was kinda garbage and too many references to the old movie and not super funny. But they tried. THREE STARS!"
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But only 59% among top critics. And the majority of "positive" reviews are really "middling" reviews..."better than average", but not "really good" or "great."

Honestly, this thing could have been universally praised and no one could ever convince me it was a good movie. The only worse movie I've seen this year has been the Independence Day sequel.
Agreed. Factor in the fact that only 58% of the audience "Liked it" according to Rotten tomatoes, and you get a rather middling movie, which is pretty far from a decent film.
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