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Count me as another on the "why reboot" bandwagon ... I don't have any issue with recasting and retooling, but why do we need the origin story again?

While many are pointing to the upcoming reboot of Superman, look at how the last one fell into the existing Superman universe. Or look at the two Hulk movies. It can be done without wasting another 2 hours on material that has been covered.

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It's funny, because I thought most knew about this reboot. But just today I went to go see "Captain American" with my buddy and they had a trailer for this new Spider-Man. My friend leaned over and said to me "What happened to the guy who played Spider-Man in those other movies?". When I told him they decided to reboot and make the series more dark and serious he was like "What the fuck!? Didn't the last one just come out last year??". While I don't think this new film looks bad, it is just way too soon. Just like the Superman reboot. And for that, I kind of hope both fail miserably.

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How is the Superman reboot too soon? Returns was a (crappy) direct sequel to the first two Christopher Reeve movies, and those were Pre-Crisis. Post-Crisis Superman has been around since 1986, and we still have never actually had a Post-Crisis Superman movie.

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I guess I'm going to show why they keep rebooting with origin stories instead of coming up with new material ... the vast majority of people are familiar with the origin story and not so familiar with anything afterwards. I have no idea what you are talking about, pre-crisis and post-crisis.

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A Superman reboot movie doesn't have to spend a lot of time going over the origin. Batman Begins didn't really spend a whole lot of time going over the origin.

As for Pre-Crisis/Post-Crisis, in 1986, there was a huge DC event called Crisis on Infinite Earths which revised many things in the DC universe. Superman was one of the things most heavily revised. When people talk about Superman being a boring one-dimensional character, they are talking about Pre-Crisis Superman. John Byrne, who was responsible for most of the Post-Crisis Superman revisions, worked hard to change that stereotype.

One revision you might be familiar with is how Lex Luthor was changed. Pre-Crisis he was just a rather generic mad scientist kind of thing, as also portrayed by Hackman and Spacey in the films. Post-Crisis he became a corrupt businessman, as portrayed by Rosenbaum in the Smallville show.

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Sigh. I was really hoping not to open up this can of worms again. It's too soon because "Returns" came out in 2006. And I, for one, didn't think it was "crappy". Singer himself even promised to deliver more goods on the next film. Given the hot/cold reception of "Returns". His vision and style was identical to the first two Superman films. But because "The Dark Knight" made such a killing at the box-office, that changed everything in Hollywood. Suddenly WB felt the 200M "Superman Returns" made was a failure. Even though it made about the same as "Batman Begins" (205M).

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Had I only seen the trailer, I wouldn't be so hot for this reboot, but the other footage I saw at Comicon gives me hope that it'll be visually interesting, as well as the characterizations. Don't just go by the trailer, keep an open mind.

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FYI- Batman Begins had a smaller budget. So, yes, SR was less successful.

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I don't believe it was all about Dark Knight changing things; it came 2 years later then Superman Returns. If SR was such a success, I'd figure a sequel would have been pushed ahead much quicker rather then the flip flopping that was existent shortly after release. It's weird since critic reaction was good, but viewer reaction seems far more mixed versus Begins.

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:lol:

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I don't know anyone who loved Superman Returns more than me, but still Superman Returns cost a reported $250 million to make. Even with a world-wide haul of $391 million, it was far from a success.

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I keep forgetting we're in the Spider-Man thread. Not to derail this more, but the figure reportedly includes the costs of several abortive attempts at making Superman movies, including big paydays for Burton and Nic Cage.

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I never said "SR" was a success, or even made money. How much is the reboot going to cost to make? And I bet a million bucks it doesn't make more than "SR".

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

I'm really looking to that Avengers film.

Anyone think they should make an OMAC movie?

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

I love 500 days of Summer and also don't think the Raimi Spider-Man movies are anything special. :shrug:

What you say is worthy of a cockpunch, I say deserves a pat on the back... or... something.

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A handjob? :hscratch:

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It looks like an alright film, but it doesn't feel THAT much different from the previous ones. I do like the casting of Martin Sheen as Uncle Ben.

But I'm not going to see it, considering the previous 3 are still fresh in my mind, and on top of that it's just a retelling of the first one.

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

if it's a good film...it's a good film. That's all I care about. I'm not attached to any film besides the very good ones. Which Raimi's films were not. They were good..but flawed in big ways...yet well directed for the most part(depending on how you look at it).

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Spider-Man 2 is one of the best superhero movies. Period. 500 Days of Summer is one of the worst, most overrated films of recent memory. That being said, I'll still see this in the hopes that Sony didn't let Webb go as over the top as he did with 500 Days.

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500 Days of Summer is delicious. I can watch that movie anytime, any day of the week and it always puts a smile on my face.

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500 Days of Summer makes me want to punch a wall. Cliche, full of one dimensional characters, indulgent crap filmmaking, stupid ending... :hairpull:

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They don't want a big name, that's what made the movies cost more and more with each new contract, though, there is nothing to say that won't happen after this is filmed.