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I didn't think they could make Spiderman any scrawnier, but they did.

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:up:

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:thumbsup::thumbsup:

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I hate 500 Days of Summer. The two leads had no chemistry except for the fact that JGL had fallen in love with her because of her taste in music. And he acted like such a little bitch when they broke up.

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Your mom and that movie seem to have much in common.

I'm totally j/k. :D :D :D :D

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I think 500 Days is entertaining, but seriously flawed. It works as a small scale pseudo-indie. However, when you bump it up to a full scale 200 million movie, those flaws are going to be magnified. I realize there are a ton more people involved in this than just Webb, but he was brought in for the drama he created in 500 Days, and I don't think it will work.

I remember hanging out with one of my friends a couple months before Spider-Man came out. We talked about how hiring Raimi was a great move, because he could do the comedic action necessary for the movie. I don't get that feeling with Webb and the serious tone just feels all wrong. And I say that as someone who appreciated the emo Spidey scenes in #3--I felt it was one of the Raimi-est segments in the trilogy.

Watching this trailer did nothing for me, except make me retch at the first person segment.

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Here are just a few photos I took of Andrew at the mic stand. I just happened to be standing really close to him at the start of the panel.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/patcave...7627136261377/

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:mad:

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I don't think so. My issue stems from things like another save MJ moment, a little bit too much of the the Raimi humor for this, the aunt May/doc ock moment, big chunks of corny dialogue, the predictable death Ock's wife, etc...

though....there are VERY made and crafted scenes like Doc Ock at the hospital and others....thankfully there are more solid moments over bad moments.

The film is good but it's a bit unbalanced to consider it great. Also i hate typing from my PS3 but my pc is dead atm...so typos are around.

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

They show it on tv all the time, haven't watched it.

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Thanks for keeping us in the know.

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Just think of all the classic Spider-man stories they could have told, like when he fought Venom for the upteenth time, or when his parents came back but turned out to be robots, or even the beloved clone wars.

Spider-man as a comic has been unreadable for almost 2 decades, and the only way Marvel could revive interest in the character was to bring back a younger version of the character, be it him starting out (Ultimate Spider-man) or him reverting to an earlier continuity (One More Day). Believe me, I understand why the studio wants a reboot: unless they want to tell the grim-and-gritty stories from the 80s when Spider-man wore the black suit, or the stupid stories from the 90s, or the even dumber stories from the 2000s, going back to where it all began is really the only way to make him interesting. Once you start maturing the character he loses inertia, because it's extremely difficult to make his character interesting. .

I loved Spider-man 2, but it was beginning to show that quality - Doc Ock was a really contrived villain and he felt forced into the story - almost as if they needed a villain but didn't know how to naturally develop one out of the story. They had to shoehorn him into Peter's life somehow, and it really didn't work for me. The entire movie could have just been about Peter and Mary Jane and it would have been just as good. Maybe not as good of a popcorn movie for some, but a great character story. Also, the whole damsel in distress thing people complained about in Spider-man 3 is still present in 2.

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The Lizard, Mysterio, Kraven, Electro; those are some fairly good villains. No need to reboot.

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I agree with this. While the movie was visually interesting, it was also a complete bore. The characters had no chemistry, which is sucked since I like both of them individually, and as such it simply didn't work for me. They took a very relateable situation and somehow sucked all the emotion out of it.

It took me a few tries to get through the whole thing.

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:scratch2: 6 hours of film has used up all the story lines from 50 years of comics? I'm not arguing that there weren't some low spots, but come on!

There is plenty of source material and unlimited opportunity for new material -- we don't need to keep re-treading the same ground. I don't mind recasting and moving forward. It is simply lazy and pea-brained to re-do the origin story.

On the other hand, maybe Lucas will re-boot the prequel trilogy ...

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This is interesting because it just made me realize what usually annoys me about superhero movies. The uber-villain. I really don't see why they couldn't have done a Spider Man 2 or 3 which was about Peter's life with Mary Jane as he goes around fighting crime. Why can't he just fight crime? Or get tangled up in some sort of scheme or have conflicts with the police or be torn up over having to get up at night and go around looking for crimes in progress? What if one night he finds nothing and just wanders the streets, bored? Why must there be a super-villain who wants to destroy the world in EVERY FREAKING MOVIE?

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That's pretty sad if the only good stories for the character were in the 60s and 70s.

The Hobgoblin storyline, the Alien Costume Saga, Life In the Mad Dog Ward, The Death of Harry Osborn, Kraven's Last Hunt were all stories that made Spider-man very interesting.

Sony only did the reboot because Sam Raimi couldn't finish a fourth film in the time frame needed to keep the film rights to the character.

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Because some men just want to watch the world burn.

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There always has to be a super-villain. It's sorta unthinkable to have a character like Batman just beat up thugs for an entire movie.

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Its the difference in mediums. You can have a comic where Batman spends the entire issue beating up low-life thugs and still have a good story, but it wouldn't translate well to a movie.

Imagine if in Batman Begins that Ra's Al Ghul and Scarecrow were not in it and instead Batman spends the entire movie beating up Carmine Falcone's thugs. It wouldn't have been nearly as good.

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Actually, I think you make a good point. I think one of the things I wanted to see more of...but not that much more of mind you...was Batman fighting "regular crime" on the streets in both "Begins" and "TDK". Some of Bruce dealing with being Bats in his other life would've been cool too.

That said, for over the top SUPERheroes like Superman and The Hulk...it's the exact OPPOSITE. I want larger than life Supervillains to tear up the screen.

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Simple. Supervillains, beside being an integral part of the genre, are exciting. Spidey aimlessly swinging around looking for something to do, isn't.

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the first person segment looked bad on the big screen
audience didn't have much reaction the trailer one way or the other

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I think there's an interesting story to be told where the superhero really is the only super person in the world and how he deals with that. Maybe he goes down to South America and fights some narco-terrorists or sex-slave traffickers or something when he gets bored with purse-snatchers. Maybe he gets caught up in red tape at the U.N. when they try to recruit him to solve all the world's problems but then ties his hands with bureaucracy. Maybe he gets duped and fights for the wrong side by accident and questions his vigilantism, etc. There's so much that could be mined in a real-world scenario where a Batman or a Spiderman exists. They could do different TYPES of stories rather than let the franchise wear thin by trying to stuff each movie with more and more super-villains. Maybe they wouldn't have to reboot every three years if they tried varying the formula from time to time.

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What movie was it (or maybe a comic. But I'm thinking it may have been one of the new batman movies) where they said the very existence of a costumed hero/superhero would actually cause the creation of supervillains? I remember the paraphrase of the quote but not the source.