Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Note: Contiuned from old Spider-man 4 thread. http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/...st-etc-15.html

Let's kick things off with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg6v1dgTcxw

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you can just do this:

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Well... I wouldn't mind something "different" since we already got 3 movies that were extremely close to the comic portrayal of Spider-man (the third movie especially so).

but he's not like Iron Man or Superman. Superman was so iconic that just seeing him come alive on the screen, even though the movie itself is rather dreary, was exciting enough. Iron Man is a character that could have gone in so many directions, partially because the character itself was so poorly developed in the comics.

Spider-man really has to stick to the core of the appeal behind his character... and that can get tiresome to watch very easily.

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I think this whole idea is just awful. Awful director, awful plot, awful everything.

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I thought the reason for the bad reviews was because the movie stunk, not because it didn't follow the comic book closely. For Spider-Man fans, absolutely, but generally speaking the story was terrible to go along with the laughable performances.

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Uhm, no, the reason for the bad reviews had nothing to do with it being far removed from the comics.

The bad reviews were more from how idiotic the plotline was involving the three leads and how corny emo Parker was. I couldn't care less if it stayed true to Venom, Gwen, MJ or the re-cut Uncle Ben's death, it still could have been a great flick. It just wasn't.

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Marc Webb quotes:

I love the current Spiderman comic and video games. I'm going to take this Spiderman trilogy to the next level. I want to make Spiderman more into an epic with huge wars. My son and I love the Web of Shadows video game. I think it would be a great challenge if Spiderman battled Venom, Anti-Venom, and an army of symbiote-infested creatures. Spiderman has never handled so many villains in a movie before. It would be a great challenge to see how Spiderman deals with so many villains and how he saves the city of New York. I would also love to see the team-up of Spiderman and Moon Knight, because Moon Knight is Jewish."


;)

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Can't be any worse than part 3.

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A movie version of Web of Shadows? BRING IT!

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what an odd thing to say..

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^ For some reason that made me think of Adam Sandler and John Turturro teaming up at the end of Don't Mess With The Zohan ...

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As much as I love certain parts of the game it's repetitive, but very fun if you're into Spidey. It's a B game. Maybe a B- at it's worst (which I have issue saying cuz I like the game but it's repetition really irks me.

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For people that didnt notice, i was just being sarcastic! I cant believe any spidey fan would want to see an army of venoms movie! :D

I would love to see Zoe Deshanel cast in this movie then, maybe as betty brant

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.....You'd be amazed by how some Spidey fans can't tell a good Spidey story from a bad Spidey story w/ "awesome" visuals and whatnot. Sometimes...visuals are all people want.

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:(

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SPOILERS!!!!! Great I cant undo it now :(

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Marc Webb to direct 'Spider-Man' reboot
Sony taps '500 Days' helmer for franchise revamp
By TATIANA SIEGEL

Marc Webb is taking on Sony's webslinger.

Aptly named helmer has signed on to direct the studio's relaunch of the "Spider-Man" franchise, which will bow theatrically in summer 2012.

Webb was a runner-up for job of helming Sony's "Moneyball." His name began to surface last week after the studio pulled the plug on a Sam Raimi-directed, Tobey Maguire-toplined "Spider-Man 4." Similarly, everyone from Robert Pattinson to Jim Sturgess has been rumored to be on Sony's star wishlist. However, a project insider said the studio wanted to lock down a helmer before turning its attentions to casting the Marvel superhero, who will be portrayed as a high schooler coming into his powers.

Sony is having to delicately balance trumpeting its relaunch with trying not to alienate the cast and director of the three recent "Spider-Man" films, which were box office blockbusters. Raimi has several projects in development at Sony, including "The Given Day."

Webb comes much cheaper for the studio and is locked down for only one pic. Deal being negotiated includes options for more pics -- fairly standard on a franchise.

New "Spider-Man," written by James Vanderbilt, will begin lensing later this year. Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin are producing.

Webb said, “This is a dream come true and I couldn't be more aware of the challenge, responsibility, or opportunity. Sam Raimi's virtuoso rendering of Spider-Man is a humbling precedent to follow and build upon. The first three films are beloved for good reason. But I think the Spider-Man mythology transcends not only generations but directors as well. I am signing on not to ‘take over’ from Sam. That would be impossible. Not to mention arrogant. I'm here because there's an opportunity for ideas, stories, and histories that will add a new dimension, canvas, and creative voice to Spider-Man.

New "Spider-Man," written by James Vanderbilt, will begin lensing later this year. Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin are producing.

Webb, whose "(500) Days of Summer" has been an awards-season contender, was quick to point out that he isn't taking over for Raimi. That would be impossible, not to mention arrogant," he said. "I'm here because there's an opportunity for ideas, stories and histories that will add a new dimension, canvas and creative voice to 'Spider-Man.'"

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didn't like 500 Days of Summer at all, and haven't really been a huge film of the Spider-Man films. Casting, and a trailer will be my decision-maker.

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I actually enjoyed (500) Days of Summer quite a bit but I have no idea how that translates into this guy making a good Spidey film.

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He's really going to do "Spider-Man: The Musical" for the big screen... oh wait, they sort of already did that in the last Spidey flick.

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Dammit, Marc Webb seemed to be doing a new version of Jesus Christ Superstar, which would be awesome. Now that's going to be put on hold probably due to Spiderman.

Who wants to bet that Marc Webb is going to cast Matthew Gray Gubler as Peter Parker? He's the friend in 500 Days of Summer and he's the voice of Simon (nerd chipmunk) in Alvin and the Chipmunks. He's an unknown, he can be geeky, he can be studly, he's likable (unlike Tobey Maguire or Joseph Levitt Hewitt), and he has presence. He's 6 feet 1, but Hugh Jackman is tall too. The height thing didn't stop him from being Wolverine.
http://i48.tinypic.com/oat3bd.jpg

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If you're going to cast a 30 year old, then go with Joseph Gordon-Levitt. But they will go younger. I read that Logan Lerman (even with the Percy Jackson franchise on the horizon) might be in the running, and he's only 18 years old.

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I would like it if they cast JGL as Peter Parker. He seems to have the right physique to portray an agile wall-crawler, plus he has the acting chops to pull off the range of emotions needed. I'm sure the look of anguish he can portray would be more tolerable to see on-screen than Tobey's "Ooohh I'm holding back a shit soooo bad" face (when bringing the out-of-control subway train to a halt in SM2).

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yeah, I'm still kinda confused on that too. Not a bad filmmaker, just basing it off his debut film. Huge step and risk for sure. I almost want to say that he may be more controllable of a director, considering he's new, for Sony to influence or provide for.

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More quotes from the press statement:

They all seem high on the guy... maybe Marvel can somehow force the recognition of the rest of the Marvel Universe features so that Spidey isn't so bottled in. I don't think a studio has to include other franchise heroes in a film, but at least acknowledgement that they exist (ie. Iron Man, Thor, Hulk) can alleviate the fact that Spidey isn't the only hero in the world that needs to take on villains.

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Totally get what you're saying. Little phrases that would hint that he's not alone in the world of superpowers. Say a golden avenger, wingtips, that thunder god, or the mutants...stuff like that but said much better like in the comics when the characters references somebody else.

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I just cannot picture his tall lanky ass swinging from building to building lol

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Actually, the third movie was extremely close to the comics. I'm not saying it was a good film though.

Seriously, as a long-time Spider-fan, you wouldn't believe how dumb the comics are. And there hasn't been a good Spider-man story in a verrrrry long time. Take this quiz for example:

1. How did Spider-man get his powers?

A. He got bit by a radioactive spider, thus inheriting the proportionate strength, speed, and agility of a spider.
B. He's a being from another planet.
C. He took on the mantle of the Spider after his parents were tragically killed.
D. A magic spider gave him mystical powers from an ancient spiritual animal totem.

2. What happened to Spider-man's parents?

A. They were killed in the line of duty, working as international spies.
B. They were killed when their homeworld was destroyed.
C. They were shot in an alley by a burglar.
D. They returned later in his life, creating a heartfelt family reunion, but later turned out to be robots.

3. What's the deal with Gwen Stacy?

A. She hated Spider-man with a passion.
B. She had twins with the Green Goblin.
C. She has a clone that is alive and well, and living her own separate life.
D. All of the above.

4. Peter Parker's child...

A. Was killed by the Green Goblin.
B. Inherited his powers.
C. Only exists in an alternate universe.
D. Was unraveled from reality because of a magic wish made by Peter and MJ.

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JGL = fail. He's a flamboyant, singing jackass and I think he's all kinds of bad for a superhero flick.

So, they'll probably cast him.

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In terms of plot points and character relationships, the third movie was the furthest from the comics of any of them.

Not to turn this into nerd talk, but I've been enjoying the Spider-Man comics since they went to the 3-times-a-month format. The stories haven't all been good, but more often than not they have been, and even the worst of them are still OK.

Oh, yeah: A and D, A and D, D, B and C and maybe A and maybe D.

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Seems like you hate the guy. He hasn't really done anything that I thought was particularly bad; all good for me since the 3rd Rock Days, although too old for the direction they're going for here it seems.

Of course, I think people were worried about Tobey too but he ended up getting pretty buff for the role and working out decently.

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Maybe I was a bit harsh, but I think he's too whimsical and pretentious to work here. We need someone with some real angst. Angst, dammit!

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Well, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but who would you cast?

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Well, isn't the point of being unknown... being unknown? :p

It's not like Daniel Radcliffe had never acted in a film prior to Harry Potter, but neither he, nor Emma or Rupert were known either. And I think those films did pretty good, right? ;)

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Honestly? I have no idea. I'd prefer an unknown, which sounds like the direction they're going.

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They should cast Dustin Hoffman and have an older burnt-out Spiderman who's tired of all the shit, and only reluctantly helping people out these days. And then each subsequent film in this franchise should go backwards, younger and younger, with the final (third or 4th) film being about high school and the roots of his despondency/redemption finally being revealed.

If anyone from Sony is reading, yes I'm available to produce or direct (should Webb bail). Thank you.

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Or just cast Jack Black and make Spiderman Libre.

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Or cast Jon Heder and call it "Spider-Dynamite".

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Or scrap the whole thing and focus on The Avengers.

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You do know the Avengers movie is being made, and it's completely unrelated to the Spider-Man movies as the SM movies are by Sony and the Avengers is by Marvel themselves, right?