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Draven 07-10-07 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by Altimus Prime
The original cartoon is definitely NOT "Japanimation." Thank goodness.

Well, the point still stands - it SHOULD be better than the cartoon it's based on.

das Monkey 07-10-07 10:19 PM

I think it's possible to like this movie and still admit that the product placement was about as subtle as <i>Wayne's World</i>.

das

Draven 07-10-07 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by das Monkey
I think it's possible to like this movie and still admit that the product placement was about as subtle as <i>Wayne's World</i>.

das

That was a very small part of the many, MANY reasons I disliked this movie.

Mopower 07-10-07 10:42 PM

I guess I didn't pay much attention to product placement. I was too busy paying attention to the transforming robots.

Mr. Cinema 07-10-07 10:44 PM

Ah, the few haters in this thread, who for some reason keep posting in it...won't stop this from being a mega blockbuster. It'll continue to rack up the dough this Summer. Can't wait for the 2 sequels. I hope they're just as fun as this one.

Mr. Cinema 07-10-07 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by das Monkey
I think it's possible to like this movie and still admit that the product placement was about as subtle as <i>Wayne's World</i>.

das

or Casino Royale. The only thing they didn't have Daniel Craig do was wear a Sony #1 t-shirt.

slop101 07-10-07 10:45 PM

Until this movie, I had no idea that there was a city just like downtown L.A. 20 miles away from the Hoover Dam.

Dane Marvin 07-10-07 10:46 PM

I noticed the product placement, but honestly, who gives a fuck? We're a capitalist country. It helped pay the bills. Advertising is all around you, including this website.

Mr. Cinema 07-10-07 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by slop101
And since when is 57% an overwhelming majority?

Are you talking about the 100 critics gathered from rottentomatoes.com, or the millions of people who are paying money to see the movie?

Mr. Cinema 07-10-07 10:52 PM

Transformers has the #6 highest 7-day opening of all-time with whopping $156 million. It's US total stands at $165 million and counting.

Altimus Prime 07-10-07 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by Draven
That was a very small part of the many, MANY reasons I disliked this movie.

IMO, it's a pretty still reason to dislike the movie.

And I do recall seeing people carry game system boxes out of stores... gasp!... without a bag!

As I tried to say, what's unrealistic is when you see all the "generic" stuff in TV shows and movies. People's homes, and lives, are full of name brands.

Big Worms 07-10-07 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
It'll continue to rack up the dough this Summer.

And that is what drives the haters nuts. Since they hated it so much they can't stand for it to make money and for so many other people to like it. Everybody has different tastes plane and simple. Get over it.

Dane Marvin 07-10-07 11:10 PM

Sorry, but I still can't believe someone (or two people even) complained about product placement in this movie, as if they expected it to not be a pure summer blockbuster popcorn flick whose origin owes everything to commercialization. Laughable. Don't go to a summer blockbuster directed by Michael Bay and based on an 80's toy/cartoon line expecting it to be "Schindler's List".

Mopower 07-10-07 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by slop101
Until this movie, I had no idea that there was a city just like downtown L.A. 20 miles away from the Hoover Dam.


Until this movie I had no idea robots could transform into vehicles!! If it's in a movie it must be taken entirely from reality!

slop101 07-10-07 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
Are you talking about the 100 critics gathered from rottentomatoes.com, or the millions of people who are paying money to see the movie?

RT, just because it's a simple enough consensus. And even if millions of people paid to see it, doesn't mean they loved it - I'm proof of that - not to mention how you will never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator. I mean, heck, a majority of voters voted for Bush, twice - doesn't make him the best man for the job.

slop101 07-10-07 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by Mopower
Until this movie I had no idea robots could transform into vehicles!! If it's in a movie it must be taken entirely from reality!

Yeah, but they were actually using LA's own skyline for a fictional city. If they can make up robots, why not make up a skyline?

Mopower 07-10-07 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by slop101
Yeah, but they were actually using LA's own skyline for a fictional city. If they can make up robots, why not make up a skyline?

Because no one cares? I didn't know it was LA's skyline. I didn't know LA had a skyline. I'm sure 99% of the world doesn't know what it looks like either.

DthRdrX 07-10-07 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
Transformers has the #6 highest 7-day opening of all-time with whopping $156 million. It's US total stands at $165 million and counting.

Good to see Paramount back in the game with a new blockbuster series as well. What was their last big series, Mission Impossible?

Draven 07-10-07 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by Big Worms
And that is what drives the haters nuts. Since they hated it so much they can't stand for it to make money and for so many other people to like it. Everybody has different tastes plane and simple. Get over it.

Hey, I don't care if the movie makes a kajillion dollars. I'll still think it sucks, and that doesn't bother me at all.

slop101 07-11-07 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by Mopower
Because no one cares? I didn't know it was LA's skyline. I didn't know LA had a skyline. I'm sure 99% of the world doesn't know what it looks like either.

And you're proud of your ignorance? It distracted the hell out of me. Imagine them saying that they're in BFE, New Mexico, and then Starscream goes zipping past The Empire State Building. It was that bad.

Troy Stiffler 07-11-07 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by slop101
Yeah, but they were actually using LA's own skyline for a fictional city. If they can make up robots, why not make up a skyline?

Because Bay loves having physical effects. CG is second best with him. And it's one reason I appreciate his movies so much.

Using real robots ... not so easy. Using a real city ... sounds pretty reasonable.

...

So I saw it. Loved it. Bay sure does know the dynamics of making a good action picture. The way everything is staged, choreographed, etc. is incredible. All of the movements and everything come out at just the right time.

I hope to see some him re-invent his style over his next few movies. I think he could just do something very different and stay totally amazing. I think sometimes I'm going to see his next movie, and be bummed out because it's the same ole' thing. But I haven't been worn down by them just yet.

argh923 07-11-07 12:33 AM


Originally Posted by Dane Marvin
I noticed the product placement, but honestly, who gives a fuck? We're a capitalist country. It helped pay the bills. Advertising is all around you, including this website.

No fucking kidding. This has absolutely no bearing on whether or not the movie was good. It's ridiculous.

argh923 07-11-07 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by slop101
RT, just because it's a simple enough consensus. And even if millions of people paid to see it, doesn't mean they loved it - I'm proof of that - not to mention how you will never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator. I mean, heck, a majority of voters voted for Bush, twice - doesn't make him the best man for the job.

So people who like this are now the "lowest common denominator"? What-fucking-ever.

argh923 07-11-07 12:35 AM


Originally Posted by slop101
And you're proud of your ignorance? It distracted the hell out of me. Imagine them saying that they're in BFE, New Mexico, and then Starscream goes zipping past The Empire State Building. It was that bad.

Not knowing what the skyline of Los Angeles looks like doesn't make someone ignorant. It's a fictional movie, for crying out loud - who cares?

Troy Stiffler 07-11-07 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by Draven
Hand to god, I had no problems with every car being a GMC (though they made an effort to specifically show the name of the car) or the giant BK logo behind Mikelas head. That could easily happen on a typical downtown street. But when the characters have a discussion about where Nokia comes from, no less than three characters mention eBay and the only two things affected by the All-Spark are a Mountain Dew machine and a guy carrying an Xbox 360 down a busy city street in his hands instead of a bag, we've gone way beyond normal.

Haha. That's awesome. I did notice the Mountain Dew machine. I didn't notice the XBox 360. That does get kind of silly.

But, I think that the concept for the movie itself is heavily commercialized. It's in a who other arena than an 'original work' movie. Seeing all of the product placement in Transformers is not like seeing product placement in ... say ... an original piece of work like ... say ... Good Will Hunting. So none of this really bothers me.

Also, companies throw RIDICULOUS amounts of money at product placement like that. And Bay seems to be OK with that stuff. You're talking about taking 5% off your budget just for a little product placement. That's some big time stuff.


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