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Old 07-04-05 | 07:23 PM
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I find it funny that Tom Cruise's character was the only person who knew what needed to be done in that respect. I know that most would not (I sure wouldn't) but it was still quite a coincidence that no one else thought to do that.

That's not a real negative, though. Just a funny nitpick.
I think they pretty much set up Tom's character as being a guy who's really into cars and who also works on them by showing the type of car he drove and having an engine in his living room....
Old 07-04-05 | 07:47 PM
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Don't get me wrong, Giantrobo. I got that about his character. I just found it odd that he was the only Mr. Fix-It in the film. But as Mopower and jaeufraser indicated to me, though we only see him mention how to fix the cars, others clearly knew what had to be done as well. So my little nitpick has become nothing at all.
Old 07-04-05 | 09:11 PM
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I really liked the movie. Have read 80% of the posts here and didn't see this brought up yet. Something that jumped out at me in the theatre: with all of that technology that the aliens possessed, wouldn't they have had infra-red or something more sophisticated than a snaking camera to look for humans with?
good one .. have not noticed of even thought about that ... now thinking, I guess the alien's tech in this film is a very mixed bag ... will surely have developed very different from ours ... hey, at times they look like they run on steam engines .. and their probe looks like a TV i had as a kid ...

it did not bother me at all .. but interesting nit pick
Old 07-04-05 | 09:12 PM
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Maybe the aliens are cold blooded and don't give off body heat so they never developed the need for it?
Old 07-04-05 | 09:21 PM
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Well, if they never invented something as basic as the wheel, it should be no surprise that they don't have all the technology we do. It just so happens that what they do have is way better than what we have.
Old 07-04-05 | 09:34 PM
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Saw this just a bit ago. It was the right mix of sci-fi action and suspense. Wasn't the best movie I've seen this year, but it was pretty good.
Old 07-04-05 | 09:40 PM
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One minor complaint, Tom Cruise looks so good for his age, that his son (16-17 years old) looks like it could be his brother. I don't buy Cruise as a Dad just yet.
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I had problems with that too, but then I remembered a friend in NY, who at 34 had a 17 year old daughter ...

I guess it makes sense, probably Cruise's character was the highschool jock who knocked up his cheerleader sweetheart, they married, had another unplanned kid 6 years later and then it was really time for divorce ... it makes Cruise's character even more f'ed up.

Actually, Tom Cruise is right around 40 years old so the character can look that good for his age. He did mention his son didn't have a drivers licsence so he is 15 or younger. So using 40 and 15, the son was born when Ray was 25.
Old 07-04-05 | 09:40 PM
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Loved this movie. It was epic in scope and it felt like you were in the middle of the chaos and it was frightening. Great summer film.
Old 07-04-05 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
True, forgot about the ferry and army trucks.

But, then again, if Tom Cruise was not the only person with a working car, what was the deal with the mob scene? Wouldn't some of these people have had working cars around too?
Well the Army trucks and cars on the Ferry were not in the EMP zone so they worked fine.

The people that did have cars near the Ferry probably left hours ago, taking their cars with them. All the people at the ferry had just gotten there so they probably walked there. For the cars that were still there, with the amount of people in the streets, the cars counldn't have moved without running people over so they were probably abandoned. Maybe that is what the cars on the ferry were. Some got the cars on and then the captain said no more. Any not on, were just left.
Old 07-04-05 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
I find it funny that Tom Cruise's character was the only person who knew what needed to be done in that respect. I know that most would not (I sure wouldn't) but it was still quite a coincidence that no one else thought to do that.

That's not a real negative, though. Just a funny nitpick.
well, the army has mechanics at immediate disposal .. their cars were running .. ships have tech's on board, they fixed that ... heck, even the reporter van was up and running ... what we mainly saw were people stranded on the interstate, no shop around.

Cruise was clearly depicted as a car nut and yelled the right suggestion at the right time ... this way he knew which van to steal.

IMHO
Old 07-05-05 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
True, forgot about the ferry and army trucks.

But, then again, if Tom Cruise was not the only person with a working car, what was the deal with the mob scene? Wouldn't some of these people have had working cars around too?
why would the people with working cars hang around? those guys are gone!!! probably on the ferry "m.s. sitting duck"
Old 07-05-05 | 01:11 AM
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Saw it today and greatly enjoyed it, except for the last couple moments. Extemely sappy, which killed the movie for me in a way. Still a good summer flick though. I would recommend if you can overlook the hollywood ending.
Old 07-05-05 | 07:31 AM
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Sometimes an average film can be elevated to something special by a great ending (“Spoorloos” aka “The Vanishing, “The Sixth Sense”) while at other times…things go the other way………..

I found the
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happy ending
to be an insult to even the most basic of human intelligence, and it completely torpedoed what otherwise would have been a passable yet disposable and somewhat stale movie going experience.

While I don’t think it really brought anything new to the table, I did truly enjoy the first half…quite a bit actually.
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I did think the capsizing ferry scene could have been improved upon.

The film drops a notch when
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Tim Robbins' character comes into play.
I thought it was a good move in that it introduced a different element and a different sort of pacing and suspense to the film, and there was some nice material in there but it went on a little too long. Things really began to sink following that with the
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human fryer basket
scene. I thought it was more silly than anything else. And then the film goes straight to the bottom when all of a sudden it just
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jumps to Boston and the ends, no real build-up or anything.

I hated the entire
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Boston
segment and as someone who has been watching a fair bit of Asian cinema lately, I really, really, really, loathed, detested, despised, and abhorred the
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happy ending
….I really didn’t like it. I see from reading this thread that a number of other audiences were more positive in their final approval for this film, but in the small audience I saw it with there was an audible disgust with the
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happy ending
that carried over to a general displeased grumble while leaving the theater; it seemed to have left a sour – and dissatisfied - taste in the mouths of not only me but others in this particular audience.
Could have done without
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Morgan Freeman
as the narrator too, would have preferred an unknown. I thought Cruise, Fanning, and the rest of the cast were fine but as far as the movie goes, “War of the Worlds” is a disappointment in the stable of the “world’s greatest director”.

Though I’ve been more open lately to considering giving it another shot, I am decidedly not a fan of Spielberg’s “A.I.” and found sitting through it to be one of the most torturous in-theater experiences I’ve ever subjected myself to, but I do credit him in that he did appear in that movie to be at least reaching for greatness. Not so in “War of the Worlds” which was just cookie-cutter filmmaking (using slightly freezer-burned generic cookie dough at that!). I’ll take both the original version and “ID4” any day.

NOTE: I’ve scaled back on my trips to the theater lately, but I did enjoy watching the first half of the film play out on the big screen with a good sound system. No doubts in my mind that seeing it in the theater was a big factor in my enjoying the first half (maybe for more than it was probably worth). Not sure how it will play for in-home audiences when it hits DVD (which I don’t seeing myself picking up any time soon).
Old 07-05-05 | 08:18 AM
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flixtime, I agree with many of your criticisms of the film.

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I don't care if a film has a happy ending or not, but the bringing back of the son was poor because it was out of left field and felt "tacked on."


However, I disagree with your assessment that this is "cooking cutter" filmmaking. It's anything but.
Old 07-05-05 | 08:25 AM
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Everyone keeps complaining about the end of the movie. How was it any worse than the last 80% of the flick?
Old 07-05-05 | 08:48 AM
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Did anyone cry at any part of the film?
Old 07-05-05 | 09:03 AM
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I'm pissed that the
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son was alive
just because by the time he goes to fight in the battle I wanted the little jerk to die. How was he going to fight anyway? I didn't get the whole deal with him wanting to fight. Seemed like just an excuse to get him to seperate from the rest of the family and to get that scene with Cruise having to decide which one to save.

Also I don't get why all the complaints about the Tim Robbins part. The only part I didn't like about that was
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getting to see the aliens. I thought it would have been much better if the first time you saw them was when the dead one fell out of the machine at the end.
Old 07-05-05 | 09:53 AM
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Did anyone cry at any part of the film?
Yes. When it was over. Because i had spent $10 on it.

BTW...I turned on the radio this morning and the DJ's were absolutely ripping it apart. I think they disliked it more than I did. Was nice to know I wasn't alone.

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Old 07-05-05 | 10:02 AM
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The theater I went to was pretty full. No one clapped at the end, but I believe it was the first time I heard a collective "UUGGHHH".

Oh and speaking of radio djs, one of the local talk radio guys was in the theater when I went. I'm hoping to catch his show this afternoon to see if he mentions it. He looked ticked when he was leaving. hahaha.

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Old 07-05-05 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Mopower

The only part I didn't like about that was
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getting to see the aliens. I thought it would have been much better if the first time you saw them was when the dead one fell out of the machine at the end.
They had to show them drinking the water to set up the ending.
Old 07-05-05 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Goose


3) Why was Boston untouched? The aliens attack Bayonne piece of shit New Jersey, but not a major city like Boston?

If they started in NJ, then it would take some time to get to other places, including Boston. And if they originally planted the ships hundreds of years ago, Boston didn't exist, so it wouldn't have been an obvious place to plant them.
Old 07-05-05 | 10:46 AM
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Anyone know why War of the Worlds is presented in 16:9 aspect ratio? I felt like I was watching a big wide screen TV and felt a bit jipped at the theater. This is the first motion picture I can remember in a while with such a low aspect ratio, and this is supposed to be one of the biggest.
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Well, I have to say, I REALLY liked War of the Worlds. I loved the
scope. The fact that it you only saw what happened to the family. No presidents, scientists and not a lot of miltary. You didn't have to see what happened to LA, London or Japan. I liked the fact the aliens had no motive other then to kill and you never found out what they were all about. The aliens never sent out a press release telling everyone what they were going to do. Sorry, I know people are frustrated because they aren't getting the answers they derserve. I LOVED thatthey avoided the big cliche, blowing up historical or famous monuments or buildings.

I thought Cruise was great. Especially the scene where he's making sandwiches for everyone. Also liked the baseball scene. A lot of people have been complaining about plot. The fact that there isn't one. I quite enjoyed it actually. I think in disaster flicks many times a plot or unnecessary family/emotional scenes are forced. Now that I think about it, I don't think 'The Day After Tomorrow' had much of a plot other then to survive.

I just liked the look and feel of it. I liked that much of the action was implied and off-screen. Janusz Kaminski is becoming one of my favorite cinematographers. Every shot was dynamite and demanded attention.

It's weird though, it feel like a Spielberg film and then it didn't. Spielberg usually will have some cheesy family theme. I didn't get that here. The black girl in 'The Lost World' almost ruined that movie (I know I'm crazy but I liked that movie.) At least he didn't have Dakota Fanning doing backflips and karate kicking an alien. I love that you don't really have a "hero". You didn't see Cruise blowing stuff up or taking over a unlikely situation.

Anyways, loved the film. Really want to see it again.

Saxon
Old 07-05-05 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by H8nXTC
Anyone know why War of the Worlds is presented in 16:9 aspect ratio? I felt like I was watching a big wide screen TV and felt a bit jipped at the theater. This is the first motion picture I can remember in a while with such a low aspect ratio, and this is supposed to be one of the biggest.
Discussion of the aspect ratio can be found in this thread:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428962
Old 07-05-05 | 10:59 AM
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If they started in NJ, then it would take some time to get to other places, including Boston. And if they originally planted the ships hundreds of years ago, Boston didn't exist, so it wouldn't have been an obvious place to plant them.

And Boston wasn't untouched. They showed a sign that said Boston overgrown with dead vines. And then smoke coming from the city. THere were destroyed buildings as Cruise walked thru it and when the Army destroyed the tripod. It was just the neighborhood where his ex-wife was that seemed untouched.


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