I disagree. I think it should be viewed the way it was meant to be seen.

while you are at it, Watch Return of the jedi before you watch a new hope. It is my contention that you are clearly insane.

No no no. What you need to do is watch The Two Towers first, then watch the first half of FOTR, the middle section of ROTK, then whatever is left. THAT"S a viewing experience.

With regard to Kill Bill, I recommend starting with Vol 2 at the end, and watching it in reverse, followed by Vol. 1. Backward sword fights kick ass.

He deleted his post.
Good thing Jack quoted it.

Yes, otherwise we would've missed an opportunity to deride someone's opinion.

sorry, the movie only came out here only recently

anyway,

here are two things i liked about kill bill vol. 2 (besides it being a great movie)

The tension between the Bride and Bill whenever they talk because something could or could not happen at any moment.

The fact that Tarantino uses actors (or heroes of his) from Japan and HK cinema even though they can’t speak English, but Tarantino manages to work his way around it.

that's all.

Ha ha ha. oh man, thanks joey. I almost forgot how funny it was me calling scott insane. oh man, good times, good times.

if you think that was weird, check out this review of kill bill 1 from pravda

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Putin is Samurai Sword by Hattori Hanzo
01/09/2004 11:03

The story of Tarantino's film heroes looks very much like the history of Russia

It is for about a month already that Tarantino's Kill Bill Vol. 1 is demonstrated in Russian cinemas. The place of the modern cinematography king has been vacant for six years. Now, Tarantino is back and has regained the position. No matter if Tarantino did it on purpose or not, but he has once again made a film for Russians. Nikolay Berdyayev, the famous Russian thinker, could characterize the film with the following phrase: "It's a film about beauty and the inevitability of revenge, a film about the eternal female essence of the Russian soul."

Everything is quite clear about the cinematographic perfection of the new film by Tarantino. Universally known filmmakers have been once again demonstrated Tarantino's genius. The film has given much food for reflection to some of modern Russian producers. The audience has finally got a good film so radically differing from second-rate films.

In this particular case we speak about the Russian audience. As follows from comments of the US audience, the only thing Americans have seen in the film was horrible violence. Americans do dislike violence but still go to cinemas and watch such films. In a word, this film is repeating the fate of Tarantino's Pulp Fiction, which is not a surprise at all. In spite of the fact that the film is permeated with American popular culture, the talent and the degree of artistic freedom characterize Quentin Tarantino as a purely Russian filmmaker. This means that Tarantino's basic audience is in Russia and his films are meant for the Russian audience.

This statement can hardly be proved. One should either accept it and take it as true, or to reject it (there are too many cases against to be enumerated here). Let us take the legendary Russian film Three Poplars in Plyushchikha Street. When Tarantino worked on the roles of Mia and Vincent in Pulp Fiction, he in fact repeated all the finds of Russian film producer Tatyana Lioznova employed in Three Poplars in Plyushchikha Street. In both films the audience perceives the tension of the unsaid among the pairs. Both filmmakers penetrate even deeper than the sphere of consciousness and emotions. In the legendary Russian film, the heroine of Tatyana Doronina was good at singing, while the heroes of Uma Thurman and John Travolta were perfect dancers.

Kill Bill Vol. 1 is a romantic fairytale narrated with the hyper modern movie language. The heroine of Uma Thurman revenges herself upon her former special forces brother-soldiers, the people who had attempted to kill her in the ninth month of pregnancy. This is the story line of the American film. To be more precise, Kill Bill is a film about a revengeful woman. This is a really burning problem for Russia today.

It takes little effort to see that the heroine of Uma Thurman is personified Russia. Pregnant Uma dressed in a wedding dress lies severely beaten in the church. This is an exact image of Russia of the late 1990s when the country experienced a default and the Chechen war. Then go death of the baby (this means loss of the future for Russia) and four years of coma (the first period of Vladimir Putin"s presidency in Russia).

The action of the film begins when the heroine of Uma Thurman recovers from coma and experiences almost the same emotions that Russia is currently going through. When recovered, the heroine sees the world disfigured with the injustice that had got so deeply rooted over the four years of her coma. An illusion appears at this moment that the unjust world where her enemies live is incredibly stable and will exist forever. The unjust world would have existed forever if the heroine of Uma (Russia) had died in the church or somewhere in a hospital. But the heroine came to herself; the world realized its ugliness that must be immediately improved.

The lost harmony can be restored in two ways: either through forgiveness (in the particular case of Russia - through economic and any other kind of amnesty) or through vengeance. Quentin Tarantino does not put the heroine into the dilemma. In the course of the film, no doubt arises that the revenge is justified. The audience is given no right to doubt, as its role is to sympathize with the avenger and wish her luck. Thus, the line of the film corresponds with the actual program of Vladimir Putin's second presidential period. A saying that Tarantino puts at the very beginning of the film sound very much in Putin's style: "Revenge is a meal that must be served cold." A true avenger never lets anger cloud his eyes; an object of his revenge as such has no value for him. He focuses on his revenge only and hopes to restore harmony.

If we interpret the heroine of Uma Thurman as Russia, who is Vladimir Putin then? In Tarantino's film, the image of the Russian president appears as a Samurai sword made by master Hattori Hanzo. The audience may interpret the image of the master pretending to be just a barman as Russian special services that have had no effect upon the fate of the country for a rather long period already.

In the first part of the film, the heroine revenges herself upon women only. A conclusion can be made in this case that during the second presidential period of Vladimir Putin Russia will deal with its domestic enemies - oligarchs and bureaucrats assisting them. The audience will not see the killing of Bill in the film. At the end of the film he pronounces that the baby Uma's heroine remains alive. This sounds against the background of suggestions made by western analysts that Russia may regain its position among the world leaders in 2010-2015.

Read the original in Russian: http://news.pravda.ru/society/2004/01/06/59238.html

I think he lied about the sword because he wanted to get some feelers out to see how much it was actually worth.

No, he lied about it to see how pissed off his brother would get. He knew how much the sword was worth... but it was one of those things given that you would never get rid of, and he would rather live in squalor than sell it. He had no attachment to The Bride's Hanzo sword, and as such had no problems trying to sell it to Elle.

Just saw more of it again last night. The scenes with Bill just keep getting better and better with each viewing. Hope the same stands for his absent scenes.

In all honesty, both movies grow on me more with each viewing.

...for anyone who doesn't want to sift through 21 pages of posts for an answer.

So what's the deal with Elle Driver? Are we to assume she dies? The purpose of the film was for (bleep) to kill each of the squad one by one, and everyone did meet their (fairly) obvious death at her hands. But Elle Why would be left asking at all?

Just curious. Anyone have a take on this?

The official answer in the film (closing credits) is: ?

It leaves the fate of Cailfornia Mountain Snake to the imagination of the viewers.

I guess I missed that. Gives me a good excuse to watch the movie again though.

I know this has nothing to do with actual content of the movie, but does anybody know if this is Guarenteed In Stock at Hollywood Video?

Here's what you do:

1. Call Hollywood Video.
2. Ask the person who answers the phone "Is Kill Bill Volume 2 guaranteed in stock?"
3. When you hang up after receiving your answer, look in the mirror and say "Now why didn't I think of that?!?"
4. Have a great day.

I share a cubicle with my superior so it's much easier to post something here then call. Anyways I did get a chance to call and it's not, but Johnson Family Vacation is guarenteed. WTF!

I really liked the scene with Michael Jai White (Urkel is all grown up!) but it was a bit over the top with "I will destroy you because my kung fu is stronger than your kung fu" kitsch.

As it is, I think our full-on introduction to Bill was so much better in Vol. 2.

So I guess what I'm saying, finally, is that I am now GLAD that he broke up the film into two chapters, and that I think the final product is better because of it.

That's not Urkel

I thought all new releases at those stores were supposed to be guaranteed in stock

I agree. They're two differently styled movies.

Vol 1 is action packed, simplistic story. Which was good (got better when I saw it a 2nd time). More of an over the top Japanese/Hong Kong styled film.

Vol 2 is classic Tarentino. Great dialogue. Great story. More of a laid back western type of film.

You think so? I don't. When he mentioned that he "sold it for $250" and Bill got mad, he knew it was worth way more than that.

Notice how he let the one eyed girl give a price when he told her he had the sword. He didn't tell her he wanted a million dollars.

Well, it makes good business sense. They know that nobody will be renting Johnson Family Vacation, so they're safe in making it a guaranteed rental. Hell, they could probably only put two copies on the shelf and they'd still be safe in making it a guaranteed in stock rental. Kill Bill, OTOH, will have many more rentals and will be harder to manage.

This was one of the most boring movies I have ever seen. Except for the one or two fighting scenes the movie was frought with way to much dialogue.

I just watched the scene again, and he tells her to bring the million. Bud already knew how much the sword was worth. And in fact, it is obvious that he would never sell his own, as he would have done it much sooner. In the scene with Bill, there is no revelation that the sword was worth more. There was only the fun of playing a joke on a brother and pissing him off.