Okay, I want Pai Mei to get his own Tarantino written/directed movie.

Yeah you know, I always thought the whole Beatrix/Beep thing was very unnecessary. Unless Quentin is doing a throwback to some other movie. But I think it would've worked better if they all just said Kiddo... and we all go on thinking we don't know her name. And then in Volume 2, they'd reveal her first name. Personally, I think the *beep* took some people out of the movie for a second... and wasn't really worth it in the end.

this movie defenetly deserves a second viewing for those who didn't like it but loved part 1. while the dialogue is dry (not bad), just not the over all flash as his other movies, it does reveal alot about the characters. there is some foreshadowing to the ending during the speech bill gives about Pei Mei

the bleeping idea is mentioned on the first dvd. they thought it would be a good idea if the assassin was nameless till the end of hte movie.

I have a question. At the end of the movie

The valet.

Thanks Groucho. I was thinking it was one of the main characters, but there were not many left

The go watch piles of crud like Bad Boys II, Fast and the Furious, and Alien vs. Predator.


Everytime I see Vol.2, it gets better.

That would be, imho, a stupid premise. Trained by a blind person who didn't even complete her training because she killed Pei Mei before she could. The kid coming after her, also a bit silly, as the bride would be about 50. I'm against a pt. iii entirely, unless it's a prequel showing more of the pre-Kill Bill storyline of the Death Squad and the Brides deeds.

Also, unrelated, spoiler tags on a movie long out of the theaters and now on DVD? By the location and topic of this thread alone, no one who doesn't want to be spoiled should be within 50 feet of this.

Actually, QT said that the daughter would be raised by Sofie Fatale and probably being trained by some other one of Bill's co-horts.

wonder how a woman with no arms could train somebody?

Umm...what are you talking about? Volume 2 has most of all the story. It tells how the Bride became the killing machine she is, it explains of course her relationship to Bill, what caused all of this to happen, and of course her revenge story with Budd, Elle, and Bill at last. it had all the meat to the story. How can anyone not see that? How does O-Ren's scene have more story? Cause we get to see her kill people? So if we saw Budd and Bill killing people that would be more story? Volume 2 answers all the questions that were set up in the first film. How, why, and of course tells the revenege and character story of Budd, Elle, and Bill.

And yes, the movie does raise some perfunctory questions about what this person did, what connection this person had to that, so on and so forth, but you act like that's somehow a bad thing. It makes this film a living breathing universe, as opposed to the normal movie where there three people in the movie and those are the only people who exist.

God I loved this movie if you can't tell. It's just fabulous and, combined with Volume 1 just purely amazing entertainment.

Exactly.

And how did this affect the story or film in any way?

It makes the character more iconic. Instead of going "Beatrix Kiddo" everyone knew the character as "The Bride." By the end of the film, the story needed to know her as a human being, so we get the reveal of her name. The end is about her as a person. But before that she's a killing machine, and the idea is to have her be a nameless bride, like the man with no name.

The bleeping was an obvious way to point that out...humorous, while making you go "hmm, I wonder what her name is."

Raise. Not train.

Couldn't of said it better. Though you did mysteriously leave out R Dogs.

One thing that I want to point out that I never did in any of my old reviews is to acknowledge Robert Rodriguez's score. I practically bashed his music-conducting skills prior to seeing VOL-2 for the first time, but now that I've had the opportunity to watch the DVD for the---Oh, what is it, 12th time since I've bought it?---I really do have to eat some dirty crow thanks to the quite-brilliant score he provided.
In fact, when I first saw VOL-2 in theaters, I could've sworn that the music cue that plays when Elle collects the money from Budd was lifted from an obscure spaghetti western that I haven't yet seen. But come to find out, that was all Rodriguez.
Good job, Rod. And what a damn fine movie you worked on...FOR FREE!

Morricone deserves much more credit for the great score than Rodriguez does.

And hopefully he'll be talked about in the SE.

Well that answers my problem about it pretty well, but I'd still rather have it out. Although it's not going to keep me from loving these awesome movies. I'm extremley glad I caved in and bought the barebones discs. I'm not sure how long I could wait until the supposed special editions.

OK, I'm almost 2 years late to the party, but anyway... I saw this in the theater when it first came out but just rewatched it on DVD last night for the first time.

I love 95% of this movie. But for me, it really bogged down in the last chapter with Bill pontificating about just about anything and everything. I don't know if Tarantino was just so in love with his own dialogue, or Carradine, or what. But it just seemed to stretch on for an inordinate amount of time. I didn't really feel the tension building either. While the ideas put forth in the Superman speech made sense, I didn't believe that Bill was the guy who should have been espousing on them. I can't picture Bill as a comic book guy. Maybe QT should've left that speech for some other movie. It just seemed more like Bill being on an endless soliloquy than interaction.

The ending was just a little bit of a letdown for me. While we finally DO get to see Beatrix "kill Bill" it wasn't as dramatic as one would hope. Within the tone of the movie it makes sense (using the 5 finger...) but I think it didn't really provide a climax. The climax happened 30 minutes before when we see the awesome trailer fight with Elle and Beatrix.

OK, I just had to get that out. I feel better now even if no one responds. Maybe I'll change my tune in future viewings.

I think that speech very much was Bill. His talk about how Superman sees the world and others is actually how he sees the them. It was a great bit of insight into his character.

When I saw it in theatre's 2 years ago, I kept having this thought that it might dissapoint (similar to T3).

But when I was actually in there watching the various trailers, something in my head told me not to worry about it, sit back and enjoy the show.

I did that, and I Loved it, I haven't walked out of a theater that satisfied since.

I'd have to agree more or less. While certain points bogged down during the movie, I left the theater with the biggest smile of any movie I've ever seen.