Rock salt was also used by Tanya Roberts in A View To A Kill. That was the first time I had heard of it, and had I not seen the movie 19 years ago, I probably would not have realized what Budd was talking about.

Well I finally saw the movie. I enjoyed it.

But I have to say that I think the redemptive aspects of the movie are lost a bit by the movie being cut up in 2. If we had seen the ultra-gore, high intensity and then what happened in Part 2, I think it would have been more effective.

I think it's expected that you should see Vol. 1 first.

Actually, thats an interesting debate. Do you REALLY need to see volume 1 first?

I have a few friends that don't necessarily like QT's sadistic side, and they don't want to see a lot of blood and gore, so they don't want to see volume 1. In my opinion, Volume 2 is more of a love story with much less blood and gore. So I was thinking about showing them Volume 2 when the DVD comes out, but not showing them Volume 1 unless they wanted to see it afterwards. I was thinking about the effect that this would have. Would they get lost too early on? I don't think so, because not much meaningful story actually takes place in volume 1. I think there are a few lines in volume 2 that sum up volume 1 completely, so it is entirely possible for someone to see volume 2 without seeing volume 1 and still understand everything. I think my friends can enjoy volume 2 as a single movie.

The only thing that I worry about is that seeing volume 2 will ruin a good portion of volume 1. Especially the twist at the end of volume 1 where they announce that the child is still alive.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

I disagree. People would be wondering why the sudden change in the film from gore to western.

This actually holds true for many movies, ie - Lord of the Rings didn't really need to be 10 hours long - since in essence it's plot is guy tries to destroy ring, you can basically watch RotK with little prior knowledge. To be perfectly sure, this holds true for many, many movies. That said, as tends to be the debate these days, it's not "what happens" in a movie - but rather how it happens. So while you don't need Volume 1 of Kill Bill to enjoy Volume 2 to a huge extent, you're missing out on the journey - but if that doesn't matter much to you and you only care about the plot - then yeah Volume 2 stands alone nearly perfectly - just couple up the intro of the movie with the "List" poster for Volume 2 and you've got all the summation you really need.

According to this English QT intreview, there was a different Japanese version of Vol. 2, like there was for Vol. 1.

Has anyone (cultshock) seen this, or am I reading that he's holding it for the four-hour single release?

I thought this was pretty funny, but thats me

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Yea that is pretty funny, but the kids got a few years until he walks. His first steps are going to be heart-breaking (seriously no pun intended).

Sorry, unlike for Vol 1, I wasn't able to be in Japan to catch the theatrical release for Vol 2 (bad timing )

However, I really haven't heard anything anywhere about a different cut of Vol 2. I have talked to people in Japan who saw the Japanese theatrical release, but they didn't see the US version in order to compare the two. Based on us talking things out, we couldn't discern any differences, but of course it's difficult to truly figure things out this way. I guess we might just have to wait until the Japanese DVD release. (if there is a limited edition of Vol 2, I'm getting it regardless, to go with my Vol 1 set )

What happened to the Death List in Vol 2? I didn't see it at all.

Thanks cultshock, figured it was worth a shot to ask you!

The Death List probably blew up in the ***** Wagon.

I watched Pulp Fiction the other night for the first time since seeing Vol. 2, and a thought came to me. I don't know if this has been mentioned or if it is even relevant at all.

At the end of Pulp Fiction, Jules Winfield says that he is just going to walk to Earth and stop where God tells him. Anyone else find it funny that Samuel L. Jackson now has a cameo in a film as a piano player/organist at church in the middle of nowhere? Yeah, he's got a different name, but it makes sense that a hired killer would take on a different name.

This is just something I thought about, and I found it kind of funny. Hope someone else finds it humorous as well.

Different character.. Cause if it was Jules Winfield the Deadly Viper Assasination Squad would have been dead that very day.

Interesting thought, you may have something here. It's funny to think about. Don't think we'll ever know. It'll probably be about as clear as whatever's in that damn breifcase.

That is really stretching it. Unless Mr. Brown really faked his death and ran off with the money from the bank robbery, moved to the valley and likes to buy his own coffee. you have to sort of accept that it's just Jackson playing a different character in the QT universe. nuff said.

One hell of a stretch unless Jules decided to pick up playing the organ with "everybody who has passed this through this town".

how so? One man against what....4 hired killers with machine guns?

Just to counter this, Mr. Brown was clearly dead in Reservoir Dogs as he had a bullet through his head. I assume someone will say, "well, that would make Mia Wallace the Bride", but that's not the point. SHe never made any comment about wanting to be a hired assassin and indeed had a past history. I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing, I'm just playing devil's advocate.

Also, Jules Winfield swore off killing in the cafe, so we would have to assume that he was still "free and clear" while at the church. But, like we've said, it's just fodder for discussion like the briefcase and the disappearing/reappearing bullet holes.

But she did make a comment about filming a pilot. Perhaps Kill Bill was just that series on tv.

Making the statement that Jules Winfield could ever possibly be Rufus, the Organ Player than I have a bridge I would like to sell you. And Rufus seems to be well established in the town making his roots and playing with anyone who comes through. Something someone who is ment to walk the earth wouldn't do.

It's wishful thinking. Atleast the briefcase had something to discuss because their was some meritt to it. "What is in the breifcase". This on the other hand is fan fiction.

Remember, He's a mushroom cloud laying mother #$#@#. Besides, god saved him once. He clearly wouldn't have died.


It's along the lines of the "Well their was a sword that was pawned off in Pulp fiction.. perhaps that was Bucks sword" discussion. It's pointless and just an attempt for the sayer of the unfound rumor to feel important or insightful on something that makes little to no sense or is ever hinted at.

I think it's safe to say Rufus was not Jules from Pulp Fiction. Tarantino himself has stated his so called rules regarding this, in that some of his films are in the "real" unvierse (Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs) some movies are in the "movie" universe (From Dusk Til Dawn, Kill Bill) and then there's Elmore Leonards universe. Tarantino himself made this distinction, stating that no character could cross from the "real" to the "movie" land except the Wolf. That's why you see Michael Parks sheriff from Dusk til Dawn in Kill Bill.

I mean was the sword in Pulp a Hattori Hanzo? While it could be, based on what Tarantino said more than likely not.

I saw Vol.2 but not sure what are the differences.Only thing I can say is that the voilence in the trailer park fight is good!

I was kind of hoping the Bride would tell an old Vaudevillian joke with a pun for a punchline.

I mean, there certainly are parallels between the DiVAS and Fox Force Five, insomuch as there were 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 of them.

But then again, in Kill Bill it was Vivica Fox's character who was the knife expert.

Hmm...just wanted to get post #500

Not really.