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Old 04-28-04 | 05:15 PM
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Yeah, I thought I remembered reading that line in the script. O-ren's reaction to the Bride saying she has a Hanzo sword: a shocked look while hissing "Usotsuke" ("Bullshit" or "You lie") seems to indicate jealousy, which helps support the idea that her sword wasn't a Hanzo.
Old 04-29-04 | 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by ianholm
I'll have to watch for it again, but I could've sworn the license plate on Budd's pickup truck is a California one.
Just saw it again, (I was watching for license plates this time around) and it most certainly is a California plate.
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I just saw this for the first time the other night, and I'm going to attempt to put my spin on it as best I can.

Regarding the Superman speech and The Bride getting a double shot into her chest: maybe she really is superhuman?

Regarding the sword in Budd's golf bag: I don't see what the controversy is. Why in the HELL would Bill give anything BUT a Hanzo sword (damn, I can't believe I'm actually joining this debate)? I knew it was the same sword as soon as she pulled it out of the bag. It doesn't seem that tough to figure out.

Thirdly, I thought the red and black boots she was buried in belonged to Budd. I thought I remembered her looking under the door and seeing him in those boots. I couldn't figure out why he'd bury her in his boots, but I didn't notice what boots she was wearing. And finally, if indeed they were his boots (which would maybe explain how she could slide them off so easily), why was there still a blade in there? If this can be answered by saying, "Her boots were red and black", then just say it. No need to stretch this out and waste any more space than the Hanzo debate was.

I enjoyed the film, and I'm also glad that it was split into two volumes. As much as I enjoyed David Carradine's character, his monologues and slow speech would've worn me out if it had happened 2 and 1/2 hrs into the WHOLE FILM. With that said, I'm looking forward to the complete film the way the director wants it just to find out what it would be like.

Great film, just as good as Vol. 1 but a very different feeling. I heard Tarantino call it a love story of sorts, and I can't disagree with that. One gripe: I wish the swordplay at the end had been longer, but that's just me.
Old 04-30-04 | 08:44 AM
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Ok, that's an interesting thought abouth the boots being Budd's, though I think they may just have looked the same. If they were his boots, I guess I could see how he might have actually felt a little bad for her and left the razor in there to give her one smidgen of a chance to work her way out.

The bigger question is why The Bride walked across the desert barefoot instead of putting the boots back on!
Old 04-30-04 | 08:50 AM
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The boots were her boots. I made special note to check that on my third view.
Old 04-30-04 | 09:19 AM
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She survived the shotgun blast because it was rock salt, not buckshot. Budd says this a few times.
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Originally posted by ianholm
The bigger question is why The Bride walked across the desert barefoot instead of putting the boots back on!
I guess she didn't want to have to dig back down there to get them.

Budd's helper was pretty short, but the guy could stand on the top of a four foot step ladder and still not be seen over the top of the grave - so figure it's about nine or ten feet down, at least.

Plus, Quentin has a foot fetish, and likes to show Uma's (and every other actress's) feet.
Old 04-30-04 | 09:49 AM
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Plus, the squishy scene wouldn't have been half as effective under a boot!
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Uma's feet were a bit scary looking because her big toes were bent/formed to aim towards the middle of "fashionable" footwear that make it seem it's normal for feet to fit in shoes that have a point to them. Anatomically, her big toes looked painfully bound to fit such shoes.
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She survived the shotgun blast because it was rock salt, not buckshot. Budd says this a few times.
Alright, I'm going to plead ignorance on this one. I heard him say "rock salt", but I didn't know if that was some lingo he was using just for effect. That helps to explain that situation. Thanks for the info.
Old 04-30-04 | 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by reubs82
Alright, I'm going to plead ignorance on this one. I heard him say "rock salt", but I didn't know if that was some lingo he was using just for effect. That helps to explain that situation. Thanks for the info.
You're not the only one, I had to look it up, and I've seen a lot of people confused about this. Tarantino could have made the difference a little clearer.
Old 04-30-04 | 11:49 AM
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I didn't know what Rock Salt was (until this thread) but since he did mention it I figured it had some sort of significance as a shotgun blast from that close would've put ANYBODY into many pieces otherwise.
Old 04-30-04 | 11:51 AM
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It all could have been made clear with a short animated interlude:

"The Hitchhiker's Guide has this to say on the subject of Rock Salt..."
Old 04-30-04 | 08:38 PM
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Or, better yet, Elle could've looked it (rocksalt) up on the internet and read some factoids about it to the audience. Hooray for creative exposition.
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Was anybody able to catch the brides first name clearly (but yet damn near next to impossible) in Vol.1 (and I'm not talking about the passport)?

I caught it and it's pretty damn cool - I'll post it in a spoiler tag if you want to know.

Also - DON'T BASH ME FOR NOT CHECKING OUT THE OTHER 10000 POSTS FOR THIS!!! ha - I promise I'll just delete this damn reply if it has already been mentioned.

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Originally posted by PixyJunket
I didn't know what Rock Salt was (until this thread) but since he did mention it I figured it had some sort of significance as a shotgun blast from that close would've put ANYBODY into many pieces otherwise.
Hey, didn't you guys watch the Beverly Hillbillies growing up? Granny used to shoot people all the time with rock salt (and bacon rind), and they never died!
Old 04-30-04 | 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by Rival11
Was anybody able to catch the brides first name clearly (but yet damn near next to impossible) in Vol.1 (and I'm not talking about the passport)?
Enlighten us.
Old 04-30-04 | 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by Rival11
Was anybody able to catch the brides first name clearly (but yet damn near next to impossible) in Vol.1 (and I'm not talking about the passport)?

I caught it and it's pretty damn cool - I'll post it in a spoiler tag if you want to know.

Also - DON'T BASH ME FOR NOT CHECKING OUT THE OTHER 10000 POSTS FOR THIS!!! ha - I promise I'll just delete this damn reply if it has already been mentioned.

you can kind of hear it through the bleeps. then again, ive seen it about 5 times, and i know what it is. plus bill says her last name in the opening of vol 1. "you know somethin there Kiddo"
Old 04-30-04 | 09:14 PM
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Spoiler:
here it is in a nutshell - remember "silly rabbit, tricks are for kids" just remember which character said rabbit and which character said tricks
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Ah, we came up with that months ago. Good try though.
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Does anyone know where I can get a transcript of Carradine's "Superman speech" towards the end of the film? Cause that ruled all
Old 04-30-04 | 11:20 PM
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Does anyone know where I can get a transcript of Carradine's "Superman speech" towards the end of the film? Cause that ruled all
Bill: Superman stands alone. Superman did not become Superman, Superman was born Superman. When Superman wakes up in the morning, he is Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent. His outfit with the big red S is the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears, the glasses the business suit, that's the costume. That's the costume Superman wears to blend in with us. Clark Kent is how Superman views us. And what are the characteristics of Clark Kent? He's weak, unsure of himself... he's a coward. Clark Kent is Superman's critique on the whole human race, sort of like Beatrix Kiddo and Mrs. Tommy Plumpton.

not sure if thats all of it or not, but its all thats on imdb, and the speech is not in the script
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Thanks, that's most of it...all of it that's online anyway. But there's a part where he compares superman to batman and spider-man. Thanks though
Old 05-04-04 | 10:14 AM
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Ok, having seen it a second time now, I officialy retract my previous observations on the Hanzo/Not Hanzo thing. The 'Elle and I' scene played out a bit differently for me this time, didn't pick up the things I thought I did before. Thanks to those who were willing to have a pleasent debate.
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I can't get the song "She's Not There" out of my head now.
Heh Heh I woke up singing that dang song today.


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