Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder
06-21-16, 12:52 AM
#3976
DVD Talk Hero
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
I recall some of the MGM catalogue titles like To Live & Die In LA and Fargo came as a combo with a bare-bones Blu-ray and the proper, fully-loaded DVD as the extra disc.
This allowed to studio to maximize the Blu-ray disc and gave the buyer all of the older extras which enabled them to sell-off their old DVD without losing any extra content.
This allowed to studio to maximize the Blu-ray disc and gave the buyer all of the older extras which enabled them to sell-off their old DVD without losing any extra content.
06-21-16, 03:34 AM
#3977
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06-21-16, 08:44 AM
#3978
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
(As an aside).
Heh. Sounds like the original intention of the Sony "Superbit" series of dvds.
Of the few Superbit titles I picked up over the past half-decade, it turns out Sony didn't really use that "extra space" on the dvd disc. It appears "Superbit" was mostly marketing, than any actual technical substance.
Heh. Sounds like the original intention of the Sony "Superbit" series of dvds.
Of the few Superbit titles I picked up over the past half-decade, it turns out Sony didn't really use that "extra space" on the dvd disc. It appears "Superbit" was mostly marketing, than any actual technical substance.
06-21-16, 08:52 AM
#3979
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Sounds very much like typical "fandumb" type behavior in many genres/hobbies.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fandumb
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FanDumb
06-21-16, 10:53 AM
#3980
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Most of my remaining guitars is stuff that hasn't really held their value at all. Such as copies of flying V, Warlock, etc ... which were "made in Japan" back in the day. (In those days, "made is Japan" was largely mediocre commodity oem type crap when it came to guitars).
My guitars were also heavily modified, with a different bridge and better pickups. If I were to sell my old guitars, probably the only selling point would be the modifications. The actual original underlying guitars would be largely worthless nowadays.
06-21-16, 11:19 AM
#3981
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Occasionally I sold/traded or gave away some guitars to local friends. For example, I mentioned one trade briefly in another thread on here:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-home-th...-jvc-2.html#48
Ironically in that particular large trade ^, I got the original Battlestar Galactica complete epic series dvd set, which turned out to be one of the few dvds which had a lot of rewatch value. Just about everything else I have on dvd/bluray, I only watched once/twice or not at all.
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-home-th...-jvc-2.html#48
Ironically in that particular large trade ^, I got the original Battlestar Galactica complete epic series dvd set, which turned out to be one of the few dvds which had a lot of rewatch value. Just about everything else I have on dvd/bluray, I only watched once/twice or not at all.
In terms of actual rewatch value, there's only a few dvds/blurays which actually had a lot of rewatch value for me (besides the original Battlestar Galactica).
In the end, it turned out it was largely horrible stuff that I least expected such as:
- Sharknado 2 and 3
- Crank 1 and 2
I have no idea why I found these ^ titles so captivating, that I watched them over and over again. (Probably watched them over a hundred times already).
In the case of the original Battlestar Galactica, the only semi-plausible explanation I can think of offhand for watching it over and over again, is that it was the first non-cartoon show I latched onto when I was a kid/preteen. Around that same time, I was also reading a lot of stuff about space and the space program. This coincidence of events seems to have left a huge impression on me, which has lasted to this very day.
I can't think of anything else in my dvd/bluray collection which I have watched more than once or twice.
Last edited by morriscroy; 06-21-16 at 12:23 PM.
06-21-16, 03:23 PM
#3982
DVD Talk Special Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
(As an aside).
Heh. Sounds like the original intention of the Sony "Superbit" series of dvds.
Of the few Superbit titles I picked up over the past half-decade, it turns out Sony didn't really use that "extra space" on the dvd disc. It appears "Superbit" was mostly marketing, than any actual technical substance.
Heh. Sounds like the original intention of the Sony "Superbit" series of dvds.
Of the few Superbit titles I picked up over the past half-decade, it turns out Sony didn't really use that "extra space" on the dvd disc. It appears "Superbit" was mostly marketing, than any actual technical substance.
I would think using slightly higher bit-rates for Blu-ray and UHD would be even more difficult to detect.
06-21-16, 05:48 PM
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Honestly, sometimes lower bitrate encodes can look better than higher bitrate encodes. It really depends on the encoder. An efficient encoder with a skilled compressionist at the helm can do more with less. Even with all the complaints about Scream Factory's authoring, for instance, insufficient bitrates weren't the problem there at all.
06-23-16, 09:08 AM
#3986
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Updated thru week ending 6/11/16
Table of Blu-ray sales (HMM and DEG)
numbers are in (revenue) millions.
Weekly figures are from HMM (Home Media Magazine)
Table of Blu-ray sales (HMM and DEG)
numbers are in (revenue) millions.
Weekly figures are from HMM (Home Media Magazine)
Code:
Week Date OD OD YoY DVD DVD YoY BD BD YoY BD Share TBO2015 TBO2014 2016 HMM 2288.94 -7.1% 1444.62 -13.7% 844.34 6.9% 36.9% 5407.8 4704.2 Q2 HMM 933.33 5.5% 547.69 -10.1% 385.65 40.1% 41.3% 2551.7 1548.3 23 6/11 107.74 19.3% 60.99 -1.2% 46.75 63.7% 43.4 % 431.8 185.5 22 6/4 76.29 -22.2% 51.94 -20.9% 24.35 -24.7% 31.9 % 73.8 309.0 21 5/28 73.60 -12.0% 49.82 -14.9% 23.78 -5.1% 32.3 % 140.1 23.6 20 5/21 77.54 -26.5% 50.34 -25.8% 27.20 -27.9% 35.1 % 61.1 376.0 19 5/14 107.18 23.1% 56.93 -6.0% 50.25 89.4% 46.9 % 403.3 34.5 18 5/7 81.33 -19.5% 55.32 -17.3% 26.02 -23.7% 32.0 % 112.7 251.6 17 4/30 78.19 -1.6% 52.00 -9.3% 26.19 18.3% 33.5 % 140.1 23.6 16 4/23 84.07 4.5% 52.84 -8.3% 31.23 37.0% 37.1 % 224.9 91.7 15 4/16 89.59 17.2% 53.25 -2.1% 36.34 64.8% 40.6 % 26.6 43.1 14 4/9 157.80 90.2% 64.26 9.0% 93.54 289.4% 59.3 % 937.2 7.8 Q1 HMM 1355.61 -14.1% 896.93 -15.7% 458.69 -10.9% 33.8% 2856.1 3156.0 13 4/2 91.71 -39.0% 61.35 -38.2% 30.35 -40.5% 33.1 % 118.1 333.7 12 3/26 145.35 0.1% 93.05 2.4% 52.30 -3.8% 36.0 % 433.8 498.8 11 3/19 112.95 0.7% 76.44 -0.2% 36.52 2.7% 32.3 % 294.4 260.6 10 3/12 99.52 -16.8% 68.43 -15.6% 31.08 -19.3% 31.2 % 162.6 114.5 9 3/5 86.02 -38.5% 60.05 -34.3% 25.97 -46.3% 30.2 % 184.1 350.9 8 2/27 106.70 -29.5% 71.62 -24.7% 35.08 -37.7% 32.9 % 186.8 303.2 7 2/20 98.44 -18.9% 69.29 -15.6% 29.15 -25.9% 29.6 % 101.2 218.7 6 2/13 122.01 -5.6% 79.65 -12.7% 42.36 11.3% 34.7 % 265.7 126.4 5 2/6 102.48 -15.3% 66.32 -21.2% 36.17 -1.7% 35.3 % 123.0 182.6 4 1/30 99.47 -10.2% 66.32 -11.6% 33.15 -7.1% 33.3 % 97.3 192.7 3 1/23 101.43 1.1% 63.96 -7.1% 37.47 19.2% 36.9 % 302.3 273.7 2 1/16 100.71 12.1% 62.20 -4.4% 38.52 55.4% 38.2 % 448.4 201.4 1 1/9 88.82 0.9% 58.25 -8.5% 30.57 25.4% 34.4 % 138.3 98.7 2015 HMM 5982.0 -11.6% 3959.60 -14.9% 2022.43 -4.6% 33.8% 10548.9 10507.6 Q4 HMM 2120.41 -6.6% 1312.11 -14.9% 808.32 11.2% 38.1% 3308.0 3199.3 52 1/2 122.55 1.1% 76.23 -9.2% 46.32 24.1% 37.8 % 109.1 103.7 51 12/26 278.08 5.8% 170.80 -6.4% 107.28 33.3% 38.6 % 105.5 7.1 50 12/19 265.13 -13.5% 159.63 -22.9% 105.50 5.9% 39.8 % 417.3 343.8 49 12/12 215.99 -13.0% 128.33 -20.5% 87.66 1.0% 40.6 % 532.3 410.0 48 12/5 167.01 -17.8% 108.97 -21.9% 58.04 -8.9% 34.8 % 19.5 291.0 47 11/28 292.88 -11.2% 191.68 -15.3% 101.20 -2.3% 34.6 % 87.9 165.5 46 11/21 101.56 -21.3% 66.89 -26.6% 34.68 -8.4% 34.1 % 52.6 324.7 45 11/14 109.57 -20.8% 69.83 -22.8% 39.74 -17.1% 36.3 % 230.6 391.6 44 11/7 127.41 -1.2% 77.03 -7.4% 50.38 10.2% 39.5 % 419.7 408.6 43 10/31 101.99 14.7% 65.10 -2.2% 36.90 65.0% 36.2 % 217.9 65.1 42 10/24 132.34 41.4% 68.00 1.9% 64.34 139.6% 48.6 % 697.0 157.5 41 10/17 106.67 -5.0% 63.65 -12.6% 43.02 9.2% 40.3 % 290.2 347.5 40 10/10 99.23 -6.7% 65.97 -7.0% 33.26 -6.2% 33.5 % 128.4 183.4 Q3 HMM 1147.35 -13.2% 793.83 -15.3% 353.52 -8.1% 30.8% 2299.4 2295.6 39 10/3 115.56 1.4% 71.34 -3.4% 44.22 10.3% 38.3 % 650.1 278.5 38 9/26 94.73 -2.5% 61.87 -11.4% 32.86 20.1% 34.7 % 184.7 156.0 37 9/19 120.04 -0.2% 69.38 -14.0% 50.66 28.0% 42.2 % 582.4 391.7 36 9/12 79.80 -28.5% 58.35 -20.4% 21.45 -44.0% 26.9 % 43.9 285.5 35 9/5 88.23 -0.7% 61.12 -10.2% 27.11 30.7% 30.7 % 163.6 40.0 34 8/29 73.03 -25.3% 54.90 -23.7% 18.12 -29.9% 24.8 % 27.8 66.3 33 8/22 75.79 -26.7% 56.68 -20.0% 19.12 -41.2% 25.2 % 7.8 217.1 32 8/15 78.42 -21.4% 58.56 -19.0% 19.85 -27.6% 25.3 % 67.1 93.1 31 8/8 92.02 -17.7% 64.19 -18.5% 27.83 -15.9% 30.2 % 166.8 283.1 30 8/1 86.59 -14.0% 60.24 -17.8% 26.35 -3.9% 30.4 % 181.8 187.2 29 7/25 76.44 -23.6% 55.78 -24.6% 20.66 -20.7% 27.0 % 3.7 147.7 28 7/18 91.34 -5.5% 63.42 -9.0% 27.93 3.6% 30.6 % 184.7 134.7 27 7/11 75.36 -5.9% 58.00 -4.7% 17.36 -9.7% 23.0 % 34.9 14.6 Q2 HMM 1136.2 -17.9% 789.33 -18.0% 346.83 -17.5% 30.5% 1763.1 1836.5 26 7/4 80.04 -10.1% 59.99 -9.6% 20.05 -11.6% 25.0 % 115.1 4.7 25 6/27 76.22 -21.3% 56.18 -16.9% 20.04 -31.5% 26.3 % 0.1 121.6 24 6/20 96.47 -18.9% 64.82 -15.8% 31.65 -24.5% 32.8 % 100.5 317.6 23 6/13 90.01 -21.9% 61.54 -19.8% 28.47 -26.0% 31.6 % 185.5 145.4 22 6/6 97.72 -12.0% 65.23 -11.7% 32.49 -12.6% 33.2 % 308.9 243.4 21 5/30 83.37 0.7% 58.42 -3.7% 24.95 12.7% 29.9 % 23.6 23.6 20 5/23 105.56 18.2% 67.81 6.1% 37.74 48.8% 35.8 % 375.9 189.1 19 5/16 86.81 2.2% 60.42 -2.7% 26.39 15.3% 30.4 % 34.3 72.1 18 5/9 100.88 10.2% 66.77 -0.7% 34.11 40.2% 33.8 % 251.6 5.7 17 5/2 79.35 -10.8% 57.24 -12.2% 22.11 -6.8% 27.9 % 225.1 51.6 16 4/25 80.42 -10.4% 57.62 -11.9% 22.80 -6.5% 28.4 % 91.6 0.1 15 4/18 76.44 -56.7% 54.38 -55.8% 22.06 -58.7% 28.9 % 43.1 296.7 14 4/11 82.89 -44.1% 58.91 -37.0% 23.97 -56.2% 28.9 % 7.8 365.0 Q1 HMM 1578.06 -12.1% 1064.33 -11.9% 513.76 -12.4% 32.6% 3178.4 3176.1 13 4/4 150.33 10.2% 99.28 9.4% 51.05 11.8% 34.0 % 332.0 165.9 12 3/28 145.19 -3.0% 90.83 -9.0% 54.36 9.1% 37.4 % 498.8 187.9 11 3/21 112.10 -53.7% 76.52 -45.3% 35.58 -65.1% 31.7 % 260.4 643.5 10 3/14 119.66 -11.6% 81.16 -13.1% 38.50 -8.3% 32.2 % 113.4 66.6 9 3/7 139.83 -1.7% 91.54 -14.1% 48.29 -18.6% 34.5 % 350.9 490.2 8 2/28 151.40 -2.6% 95.11 -3.3% 56.32 -1.4% 37.2 % 303.3 506.5 7 2/21 120.65 -5.2% 82.04 -7.6% 38.61 0.3% 32.0 % 216.5 0.2 6 2/14 129.22 -17.1% 91.16 -18.0% 38.06 -12.9% 29.5 % 126.3 162.8 5 2/7 120.93 3.2% 84.14 -0.7% 36.79 13.4% 30.4 % 184.4 147.1 4 1/31 110.66 0.4% 75.00 -3.0% 35.67 8.3% 32.2 % 192.8 319.5 3 1/24 100.24 4.2% 68.82 -1.4% 31.43 18.8% 31.4 % 273.7 196.0 2 1/17 89.84 -15.3% 65.07 -14.6% 24.76 -17.2% 27.6 % 201.2 261.7 1 1/10 87.99 -10.9% 63.66 -11.4% 24.34 -9.5% 27.7 % 124.8 28.2 2014 HMM 6783.24 -10.1% 4661.69 -11.0% 2121.58 -7.9% 31.3% 10450.6 10589.2 Q4 HMM 2267.71 -14.1% 1540.94 -13.0% 726.79 -16.4% 32.0% 3157.4 3445.0 52 1/3 121.21 -4.4% 83.90 -6.1% 37.31 -0.5% 30.8 % 103.7 24.5 51 12/27 263.04 -3.6% 182.27 -3.0% 80.77 -4.8% 30.7 % 7.1 83.9 50 12/20 306.48 -20.8% 206.91 -21.0% 99.57 -20.5% 32.5 % 343.4 406.9 49 12/13 248.11 -24.8% 161.33 -20.5% 86.78 -31.7% 35.0 % 409.4 618.1 48 12/6 203.22 -11.9% 139.51 -8.0% 63.71 -19.3% 31.4 % 291.0 235.1 47 11/29 329.76 -11.5% 226.35 -10.7% 103.42 -13.4% 31.4 % 165.5 80.0 46 11/22 128.77 -17.6% 90.97 -14.0% 37.81 -25.2% 29.4 % 324.7 354.1 45 11/15 138.26 -8.0% 90.36 -4.8% 47.90 -13.5% 34.6 % 391.5 380.3 44 11/8 128.78 2.9% 83.10 -5.6% 45.68 22.9% 35.5 % 408.5 209.3 43 11/1 88.60 -31.4% 66.32 -24.2% 22.28 -46.6% 25.1 % 65.1 302.2 42 10/25 93.20 -14.2% 66.38 -15.6% 26.82 -10.5% 28.8 % 157.1 212.5 41 10/18 112.00 -14.9% 72.69 -17.5% 39.31 -9.5% 35.1 % 347.4 293.7 40 10/11 106.28 -10.8% 70.85 -12.9% 35.43 -6.1% 33.3 % 182.9 244.6 Q3 HMM 1320.38 -8.6% 935.73 -8.5% 384.66 -9.1% 29.1% 2295.1 2305.5 39 10/4 113.89 -18.5% 73.80 -12.6% 40.09 -27.5% 35.2 % 278.5 288.6 38 9/27 97.15 -22.7% 69.79 -11.9% 27.37 -41.1% 28.2 % 155.7 414.8 37 9/20 120.20 5.5% 80.61 2.8% 39.59 11.5% 32.9 % 391.2 213.6 36 9/13 111.46 -16.0% 73.15 -14.5% 38.31 -18.7% 34.4 % 285.5 239.8 35 9/6 88.74 -18.9% 68.01 -17.8% 20.73 -22.1% 23.4 % 40.0 123.9 34 8/30 97.67 -16.3% 71.81 -15.8% 25.85 -17.5% 26.5 % 67.6 197.5 33 8/23 103.27 0.9% 70.74 -7.8% 32.53 27.1% 31.5 % 217.1 146.6 32 8/16 99.46 -2.2% 72.02 -4.6% 27.44 4.9% 27.6 % 93.1 130.3 31 8/9 111.46 4.8% 78.38 4.2% 33.08 6.2% 29.7 % 283.2 136.9 30 8/2 100.58 -3.3% 73.19 -2.7% 27.40 -4.7% 27.2 % 187.2 125.4 29 7/26 99.91 8.7% 73.88 3.1% 26.03 28.5% 26.1 % 147.6 3.9 28 7/19 96.55 -5.0% 69.59 -8.5% 26.96 5.5% 27.9 % 133.9 159.9 27 7/12 80.04 -19.4% 60.76 -20.2% 19.28 -16.8% 24.1 % 14.6 124.3 Q2 HMM 1381.45 -1.7% 961.09 -5.7% 420.37 8.6% 30.4% 1833.8 1735.1 26 7/5 88.88 -11.2% 66.22 -15.0% 22.66 2.3% 25.5 % 4.6 1.1 25 6/28 96.64 -0.7% 67.38 -8.4% 29.26 23.1% 30.3 % 121.6 78.1 24 6/21 118.84 8.1% 76.92 -2.9% 41.93 36.6% 35.3 % 316.3 135.0 23 6/14 115.15 -21.0% 76.72 -21.8% 38.43 -19.4% 33.4 % 144.9 334.5 22 6/7 110.91 -9.8% 73.74 -15.1% 37.17 3.0% 33.5 % 243.4 325.5 21 5/31 82.78 -10.1% 60.65 -12.9% 22.12 -1.4% 26.7 % 23.6 18.4 20 5/24 89.23 -13.7% 63.85 -15.3% 25.38 -9.3% 28.4 % 189.1 84.8 19 5/17 84.90 -11.9% 62.00 -12.3% 22.89 -10.9% 27.0 % 72.1 61.8 18 5/10 91.35 -22.5% 67.02 -19.8% 24.33 -29.0% 26.6 % 5.7 223.5 17 5/3 88.49 -15.2% 64.85 -14.1% 23.65 -18.2% 26.7 % 51.6 189.7 16 4/26 89.68 -11.1% 65.32 -10.6% 24.37 -12.3% 27.2 % 0.1 113.5 15 4/19 176.28 56.2% 122.89 54.5% 53.39 60.3% 30.3 % 295.8 162.8 14 4/12 148.32 45.2% 93.53 23.4% 54.79 108.0% 36.9 % 365.0 6.4 Q1 HMM 1813.70 -11.6% 1223.93 -14.2% 589.76 -5.7% 32.5% 3164.4 3103.6 13 4/5 136.35 6.0% 90.67 -1.5% 45.68 24.8% 33.5 % 165.9 0.4 12 3/29 149.53 -32.9% 99.72 -35.3% 49.81 -27.6% 33.3 % 187.8 297.1 11 3/22 241.91 18.3% 139.92 11.3% 101.98 29.5% 42.2 % 641.1 618.9 10 3/15 145.68 -10.9% 101.76 -8.6% 43.92 -15.8% 30.1 % 66.6 247.4 9 3/8 165.48 -15.3% 106.21 -20.7% 59.26 -3.4% 35.8 % 488.3 257.6 8 3/1 155.39 -12.4% 98.31 -23.9% 57.09 18.3% 36.7 % 503.8 315.7 7 2/22 127.22 -19.7% 88.74 -16.0% 38.47 -27.0% 30.2 % 0.2 247.3 6 2/15 155.64 -20.7% 111.97 -15.2% 43.67 -31.9% 28.1 % 162.8 368.9 5 2/8 117.08 -18.4% 84.67 -18.6% 32.41 -17.9% 27.7 % 144.0 171.1 4 2/1 118.53 -4.5% 84.08 -5.7% 34.46 -1.4% 29.1% 318.9 221.4 3 1/25 96.17 -7.9% 69.76 -11.4% 26.41 2.7% 27.5% 195.3 47.0 2 1/18 106.11 -10.2% 76.19 -11.5% 29.92 -6.8% 28.2% 261.6 213.6 1 1/11 98.61 -14.2% 71.93 -15.1% 26.68 -11.8% 27.1% 28.2 97.3 2013 HMM 7539.31 -8.3% 5242.51 -13.1% 2296.82 4.9% 30.5% 10668.2 10071.3 Q4 HMM 2766.93 -9.8% 1851.78 -14.0% 915.15 0.1% 33.1% 3728.2 3249.2 53 1/4 126.71 -11.6% 89.22 -14.9% 37.49 -2.5% 29.6% 24.5 67.2 52 12/28 272.62 14.2% 187.84 9.7% 84.77 25.6% 31.1% 83.8 11.9 51 12/21 386.85 -8.2% 261.74 -14.4% 125.11 8.2% 32.3% 406.8 284.4 50 12/14 330.14 -5.5% 203.04 -15.2% 127.10 15.7% 38.5% 617.5 493.4 49 12/7 230.30 -24.6% 151.36 -22.3% 78.94 -28.7% 34.3% 235.1 586.2 48 11/30 372.25 70.3% 253.10 64.6% 119.15 83.8% 32.0% 79.9 133.4 47 11/23 156.10 -60.0% 105.57 -62.3% 50.53 -54.0% 32.4% 354.0 85.0 46 11/16 149.93 -12.3% 94.62 -18.5% 55.31 0.9% 36.9% 376.1 326.6 45 11/9 124.86 -3.7% 87.74 -6.2% 37.12 2.7% 29.7% 209.3 315.0 44 11/2 128.93 2.0% 87.22 -9.4% 41.72 38.1% 32.4% 301.9 93.5 43 10/26 108.04 -27.3% 78.18 -28.3% 29.87 -24.6% 27.6% 212.5 227.0 42 10/19 131.05 -5.6% 87.75 -11.0% 43.30 7.7% 33.0% 293.5 350.8 41 10/12 119.64 -13.2% 81.55 -11.3% 38.09 -16.9% 31.8% 244.6 181.9 40 10/5 129.51 -12.4% 82.85 -14.9% 46.65 -7.6% 36.0% 288.6 93.1 Q3 DEG 1448.64 -13.4% 1011.45 -15.4% 437.19 -8.3% 30.2% (EST)273.9 15.9%(share) Q3 HMM 1401.22 -14.3% 1010.62 -16.4% 390.58 -8.4% 27.9% 2017.4 2145.2 39 9/28 125.64 -37.1% 79.05 -29.2% 46.59 -47.1% 37.1% 414.8 624.7 38 9/21 113.74 -4.1% 78.15 -13.1% 35.58 24.2% 31.3% 213.5 116.7 37 9/14 132.99 -1.9% 85.34 -15.8% 47.65 39.1% 35.8% 239.8 211.1 36 9/7 108.70 8.9% 80.72 -13.8% 27.98 8.9% 25.7% 123.8 46.5 35 8/31 114.52 -21.0% 84.31 -21.6% 30.21 -19.3% 26.4% 197.5 262.5 34 8/24 102.07 -29.3% 76.50 -28.1% 25.57 -32.7% 25.1% 146.4 105.5 33 8/17 101.24 -31.8% 75.14 -30.9% 26.10 -34.2% 25.8% 130.3 412.4 32 8/10 106.13 -8.3% 75.01 -13.4% 31.12 7.0% 29.3% 136.9 216.2 31 8/3 103.89 10.4% 75.15 -1.7% 28.74 62.5% 27.7% 125.4 0.1 30 7/27 91.47 -3.5% 71.25 -4.9% 20.21 1.8% 22.1% 3.9 18.5 29 7/20 101.61 -3.4% 76.01 -7.2% 25.60 9.8% 25.2% 159.9 81.0 28 7/13 99.26 -5.7% 76.13 -8.7% 23.13 6.0% 23.3% 124.3 59.6 27 7/6 99.96 -8.0% 77.86 -9.5% 22.10 -2.4% 22.1% 1.1 0.5 Q2 DEG 1457.26 -13.0% 1052.97 -16.7% 404.29 -1.5% 27.7% (EST)259.4 15.1%(share) Q2 HMM 1432.97 -13.2% 1031.66 -17.1% 401.32 -1.3% 28.0% 1777.3 2318.0 26 6/29 97.21 -21.8% 73.46 -20.8% 23.76 -24.7% 24.4% 78.1 350.5 25 6/22 109.92 -5.8% 79.23 -10.9% 30.69 10.7% 27.9% 135.0 98.6 24 6/15 145.76 -10.6% 98.08 -15.6% 47.68 1.9% 32.7% 334.2 275.5 23 6/8 122.79 -19.0% 86.72 -18.2% 36.06 -21.0% 29.4% 325.2 374.1 22 6/1 91.91 -18.9% 69.55 -20.2% 22.36 -14.4% 24.3% 18.4 37.0 21 5/25 103.15 -6.7% 75.17 -10.1% 27.98 3.8% 27.1% 84.8 178.2 20 5/18 96.09 -12.1% 70.43 -15.0% 25.67 -3.1% 26.7% 61.8 200.1 19 5/11 117.72 -5.1% 83.48 -11.5% 34.24 15.4% 29.1% 223.5 187.5 18 5/4 104.34 -4.3% 75.45 -12.1% 28.89 24.7% 27.7% 189.5 105.0 17 4/27 100.75 -4.2% 72.97 -8.6% 27.78 9.8% 27.6% 157.3 67.9 16 4/20 112.75 1.5% 79.45 -3.3% 33.30 14.9% 29.5% 162.8 236.0 15 4/13 102.06 -6.0% 75.74 -12.1% 26.32 17.6% 25.8% 6.4 51.8 14 4/6 128.52 -36.9% 91.93 -41.8% 36.59 -20.0% 28.5% 0.4 155.8 Q1 DEG 2098.83 2.1% 1455.55 -6.7% 643.28 28.5% 30.6% (EST)231.2 9.9%(share) Q1 HMM 2064.90 2.5% 1437.67 -6.2% 627.26 30.1% 30.4% 3169.8 2426.1 13 3/30 222.64 41.9% 153.75 26.4% 68.89 95.1% 30.9% 294.8 171.2 12 3/23 204.22 35.8% 125.59 14.6% 78.63 92.8% 38.5% 618.7 356.9 11 3/16 163.59 10.3% 111.45 -1.8% 52.15 49.6% 31.9% 244.8 279.2 10 3/9 195.09 19.0% 133.76 10.1% 61.33 44.3% 31.4% 256.6 216.0 9 3/2 177.32 15.9% 129.10 10.1% 48.23 35.0% 27.2% 315.6 82.3 8 2/23 158.25 -1.7% 105.48 -14.7% 52.77 41.6% 33.3% 251.0 274.4 7 2/16 196.00 -6.2% 131.73 -18.6% 64.27 36.6% 32.8% 368.6 16.2 6 2/9 143.36 -30.4% 103.88 -31.5% 39.48 -27.5% 27.5% 171.1 321.4 5 2/2 124.02 -15.3% 89.11 -19.9% 34.91 -0.8% 28.1% 221.2 118.7 4 1/26 104.36 -19.8% 78.68 -18.6% 25.69 -23.2% 24.6% 46.5 226.0 3 1/19 118.15 -7.3% 88.02 -14.7% 32.13 20.7% 27.2% 213.2 114.0 2 1/12 114.83 -8.9% 84.56 -13.8% 30.27 8.1% 26.4% 96.8 116.2 1 1/5 143.07 5.5% 104.56 -0.1% 38.51 24.4% 26.9% 67.2 134.3
06-23-16, 10:10 AM
#3987
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Honestly, sometimes lower bitrate encodes can look better than higher bitrate encodes. It really depends on the encoder. An efficient encoder with a skilled compressionist at the helm can do more with less. Even with all the complaints about Scream Factory's authoring, for instance, insufficient bitrates weren't the problem there at all.
All things being equal, a higher bit-rate should look better than a lower one but as you said a better encoder with a skilled compressionist can make a huge difference.
06-27-16, 03:16 PM
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
4K UHD sold 228,000 units as of June 24, which is maybe around $6 million total dollars.
Interestingly, the article also says blu-ray is up 3% this year in units and 6% in dollars. I assume that lumps together both flavors of blu...
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/high-def/ultra-hd-blu-ray-gets-fast-start-38350
Interestingly, the article also says blu-ray is up 3% this year in units and 6% in dollars. I assume that lumps together both flavors of blu...
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/high-def/ultra-hd-blu-ray-gets-fast-start-38350
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06-27-16, 05:34 PM
#3989
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
4K UHD sold 228,000 units as of June 24, which is maybe around $6 million total dollars.
Interestingly, the article also says blu-ray is up 3% this year in units and 6% in dollars. I assume that lumps together both flavors of blu...
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/hig...st-start-38350
Interestingly, the article also says blu-ray is up 3% this year in units and 6% in dollars. I assume that lumps together both flavors of blu...
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/hig...st-start-38350
06-27-16, 06:45 PM
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
And all 4K discs also come with standard Blu-Ray discs, so even those who buy them not knowing what they are will still at least have something to play. It's funny that so many Blu-Rays released the past few years have had regular DVDs with them after people had upgraded their equipment; they likely would have sold more in the beginning if they had done that then. (Working at Tower when they first came out, people did return them and HD-DVDs after realizing they would not play on their DVD players.)
06-27-16, 10:09 PM
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
And all 4K discs also come with standard Blu-Ray discs, so even those who buy them not knowing what they are will still at least have something to play. It's funny that so many Blu-Rays released the past few years have had regular DVDs with them after people had upgraded their equipment; they likely would have sold more in the beginning if they had done that then. (Working at Tower when they first came out, people did return them and HD-DVDs after realizing they would not play on their DVD players.)
06-28-16, 11:29 AM
#3992
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
I still like the idea of including the DVD. Our Bluray player is in the living room and if somebody is using the screen for a game, I can watch in the bedroom but only on my laptop.
06-28-16, 11:35 AM
#3993
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
I keep and watch them since I'm obsessive, but I trade the digital copy codes for other movies I don't have if I can (though I still keep the papers with them!)
06-28-16, 11:36 AM
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
It's funny that so many Blu-Rays released the past few years have had regular DVDs with them after people had upgraded their equipment; they likely would have sold more in the beginning if they had done that then.
06-28-16, 11:43 AM
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
But they do give a shit if they get it home and find out "Hey, I can't play this on my Bose system!" A LOT of people returned Super Audio CDs for the same reason; if all of them had been hybrid format then that wouldn't have been a problem, but they only did that with a few titles. But my point was it would've been more helpful to include DVDs with Blu-Rays the first few years they were out, instead of now.
06-28-16, 11:51 AM
#3996
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
But they do give a shit if they get it home and find out "Hey, I can't play this on my Bose system!" A LOT of people returned Super Audio CDs for the same reason; if all of them had been hybrid format then that wouldn't have been a problem, but they only did that with a few titles. But my point was it would've been more helpful to include DVDs with Blu-Rays the first few years they were out, instead of now.
I don't know anyone that even knew what SACD was (outside of audiophiles), so I don't buy it. That was a super niche along with DVD-Audio. That's a giant leap there.
06-28-16, 02:28 PM
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
And all 4K discs also come with standard Blu-Ray discs, so even those who buy them not knowing what they are will still at least have something to play. It's funny that so many Blu-Rays released the past few years have had regular DVDs with them after people had upgraded their equipment; they likely would have sold more in the beginning if they had done that then. (Working at Tower when they first came out, people did return them and HD-DVDs after realizing they would not play on their DVD players.)
Same. I have some titles on digital but a lot fewer than I have on physical media.
06-28-16, 02:43 PM
#4000
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
They were overpriced and there were some issues with the technical execution of pressing them but it gave people that versatility. It also cut down on the number of "This won't play in my DVD player" returns.
Does anyone else remember MGM releasing Blu-ray/DVD combos in a DVD-sized case? I don't think those lasted too long.