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jwstl 10-25-11 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 10978749)
Can we just go back to talking about Blu-ray media and spare this poor Criterion thread?

I'm looking forward to picking up D&C and a few (by few I mean many) other Criterions during the upcoming Criterion sale at B&N. I'm glad the Three Colors Trilogy release date occurs in the midst of the sale.

Doctorossi 10-25-11 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jwstl (Post 10978804)
I'm looking forward to picking up D&C and a few (by few I mean many) other Criterions during the upcoming Criterion sale at B&N. I'm glad the Three Colors Trilogy release date occurs in the midst of the sale.

I just wish I could get some of the December releases in the sale. As it is, I'm only going to pick up The Killing and maybe The Four Feathers.

riotinmyskull 10-25-11 01:36 PM

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newsletter clue:
http://i4.createsend4.com/ei/r/AA/0A...skinnycows.jpg

Nicolas Winding Refn's Top 10 Criterions

Doctorossi 10-25-11 01:41 PM

re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 

Originally Posted by riotinmyskull (Post 10978837)

So, the question is... for which Hitchcock classic is this a cast picture?

Solid Snake 10-25-11 02:11 PM

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Nicolas Winding Refn's Top Ten

I wonder why there was nothing said on the last two though...maybe...odd. Maybe a fuck up on part of CC?


EDIT: FUCK riot got it. oh well.

georgec 10-25-11 07:32 PM

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Ok, I'm missing something in the whole "pro-b" debate. Seems a lot of people don't like that person. I don't know anything and I'm not judging, but damn there are multiple posts basically telling "pro-b" to get lost. It just caught me off guard, that's all.

I saw the blu-ray.com review of Dazed and Confused a few days ago and disagreed with the criticism, but it's bound to happen that some reviews don't like a movie as much as its average fan. The reviewers are film fans themselves with various tastes and opinions, after all.

BuckNaked2k 10-25-11 07:44 PM

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Pro-B can be a polarizing force on this forum, but overall, it's a better place with his participation than without it.

MTRodaba2468 10-25-11 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 10978749)
... meanwhile, I find almost nothing more dreary than inter-Blu-ray-fan-Website bitching.

I'm a member at most of the popular Blu-ray fan sites. I find none of them to be anything close to "perfect".

Can we just go back to talking about Blu-ray media and spare this poor Criterion thread?

This. Seeing people wave their dicks around over which home media website is superior is rather ridiculous, in my opinion.

Getting back on topic, I'm seeing speculation on other sites suggesting that the clue is for Sátántangó.

Giles 10-25-11 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 10978728)
By his own admission Pro-B does not post here anymore and had to be informed of the attack through a friend. I'm sure he knows that when you put your work out in a public sphere, you're opening yourself up to the opinions of those who read the work. There is a difference between making an attack on a reviewer who is not also an active member here and a personal attack made from one active member to another in the forums. The former is rude, the second is against the site's TOS.

I'll put it this way: It may not be nice for someone to post a Roger Ebert review and call Ebert an idiot, but it's allowed in the forum rules. However, if Roger Ebert were an active member here, then it would be. I saw the original comment as the former (a general grievance against a non-member based on content from another site). If Pro-B were an active member here, and the other poster knew this, that would be a different story.

Pro-B did not have to resort to personal attacks in his defense, though. And even if the original attack had been the forum definition of a personal attack, we still wouldn't allow Pro-B to retaliate with his own round of personal attacks. That's what the "Report this post to a moderator" button is for.

HAH! I did a "report" in a different subforum over some highly offensive language and not one of the moderators did anything about it - not cool... what's the point of having that option, when it does no good.

PopcornTreeCt 10-25-11 08:16 PM

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I don't think it's Satantango yet I have no better guess.

Giles 10-25-11 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by riotinmyskull (Post 10978837)

'The Price of Milk' ?

NoirFan 10-25-11 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468 (Post 10979312)
Getting back on topic, I'm seeing speculation on other sites suggesting that the clue is for Sátántangó.

Which is still in print from Facets, making it an unlikely choice. I'd love to get some Tarr on Blu-ray though - Werckmeister Harmonies in HD would be my dream release.

nitin77 10-26-11 07:16 AM

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err yeah so I think Dazed and Confused is only above average too, I must be an idiot.

Come on, what nonsense.

As for the display of 'maturity' here, how is it different to the very same things being said about the other site.

Anyway, back on topic, has anyone seen Moment of Truth? If so, how does it compare to the two other Criterion Rosi's?

Dragon Tattoo 10-26-11 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by nitin77 (Post 10979648)

As for the display of 'maturity' here, how is it different to the very same things being said about the other site.

Yeah, I love how they all ganged up on him and basically told him to go back to his part of town. And then the biased mod came in to back them up.

One side came off pretty badly during this little tiff, and it wasn't pro-b's.

Criterion sale can't get here soon enough, though.

toddly6666 10-26-11 08:28 AM

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It's unbelievable how a whole fuss was made over a review, which was not even a negative one, just to pick a fight with Pro-B - someone that has dedicated at least 11 years of giving all of us useful information about movies, dvds, and blu-rays. I don't even know who started the original witch hunt against him in the first place, but it's very cliched internet forum behavior. "Go back to blu-ray.com!" "Go back where you came from!" How original.

It doesn't matter if a critic gives a movie 5 stars or 1 star. The wonderful thing about internet is that it gives us the option to compile all the different reviews of one film or one blu-ray or one DVD to figure out if it's worth checking out. Anyone who says that there is only one right way of reviewing a film is a snob.

And regarding the Cow picture, how about Julio Medem's VACAS? Criterion needs to put all of Julio Medem's old films on blu-ray: The Red Squirrel, Tierra, and Lovers of the Arctic Circle.

BuddhaWake 10-26-11 09:24 AM

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I'm with you Todd on all your points.
Criterion needs more Spanish language films. Medem, Bardem, more Saura, and these are all spaniards, not even mentioning the non-existant south american, more mexican. etc.

Gizmo 10-26-11 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by toddly6666 (Post 10979702)
It's unbelievable how a whole fuss was made over a review, which was not even a negative one, just to pick a fight with Pro-B - someone that has dedicated at least 11 years of giving all of us useful information about movies, dvds, and blu-rays. I don't even know who started the original witch hunt against him in the first place, but it's very cliched internet forum behavior. "Go back to blu-ray.com!" "Go back where you came from!" How original.

It doesn't matter if a critic gives a movie 5 stars or 1 star. The wonderful thing about internet is that it gives us the option to compile all the different reviews of one film or one blu-ray or one DVD to figure out if it's worth checking out. Anyone who says that there is only one right way of reviewing a film is a snob.

And regarding the Cow picture, how about Julio Medem's VACAS? Criterion needs to put all of Julio Medem's old films on blu-ray: The Red Squirrel, Tierra, and Lovers of the Arctic Circle.

Why do you assume everyone knows that Pro-B is that reviewer on Blu-ray.com? I don't think anyone that posted anything prior to his reappearance even mentioned his username.

Gizmo 10-26-11 09:55 AM

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Back on track...I'll wait for more reviews on Dazed. I still have my HD DVD...and don't see much point in plopping down $25 if it's only a marginal improvement.

NoirFan 10-26-11 10:18 AM

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Gojira showed up in my Gold Box today, so I went ahead and ordered it. I'd rather not have to wait until May to watch/buy it it, so hopefully it'll drop down to $24.99 or so.

Brian T 10-26-11 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10979832)
Why do you assume everyone knows that Pro-B is that reviewer on Blu-ray.com? I don't think anyone that posted anything prior to his reappearance even mentioned his username.

Thank you! Like others here, I had no idea who the author of that piece really was — or his user name, since I don't bother with many forums — until he came reeling in here looking to officially make it into something. These howls of 'persecution!' are just a wee bit much . . .

[insert pre-emptive remark directing the discussion back on topic now that I've had my say]

.

gryffinmaster 10-26-11 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 10979871)
Gojira showed up in my Gold Box today, so I went ahead and ordered it. I'd rather not have to wait until May to watch/buy it it, so hopefully it'll drop down to $24.99 or so.

Mine too. :up:

Supermallet 10-26-11 11:43 AM

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Mod Note: Let's get back to discussing Criterion, shall we? Anyone who wishes to continue discussion of the moderation at the site or this particular incident is free to start a thread in Feedback. Giles, I would recommend you do so if you want to discuss the report you made earlier that you feel did not get addressed. It will be easier to go into specifics in a Feedback thread and you can get a wider range of responses from moderators than I could give you here. Similarly, Dragon Tattoo, if you feel my moderation or any moderation is biased, feel free to start a Feedback thread so we can get other eyes on the potential problem posts. Thank you all.

nando820 10-26-11 11:52 AM

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Oh man I wanted to keeep bitchin, don't like it when the po-pos arrive

Hokeyboy 10-26-11 12:31 PM

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"po-pos" :mad:

http://affotd.files.wordpress.com/20...49867899b0.jpg

I weep for the future...

JayDerek 10-26-11 01:35 PM

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http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/bluer2vsr1.htm

DVD Beaver review for Bleu - looks fantastic

Burnt Thru 10-26-11 04:31 PM

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Real shame that Pro-B left this site. The foreign language forum fell to pieces after he went. He really was an invaluable resource.

Having said that I'd give Dazed and Confused 5/5 - a real personal favourite. Doesn't mean I can't see how others wouldn't like it though (or find it inferior to George Lucas's earlier version). Sad to see Supermallet have a bit of a modfart on this thread though.

Pizza 10-27-11 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by riotinmyskull (Post 10978837)

I realize that it's not, but the first film that came in my mind when I saw those cows was Top Secret. :)

ThePhantomGoat 10-27-11 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pizza (Post 10981012)
I realize that it's not, but the first film that came in my mind when I saw those cows was Top Secret. :)

That would be awesome, actually. :D

Sondheim 10-27-11 12:49 PM

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On the Criterionforum the current "best guess" answer to the newsletter clue is a boxset of the four (notice how the cows are vaguely, maybe, sort of in the shape of a 4) David Lean and Noel Coward collaborations - that is a Lean Coward set.

MTRodaba2468 10-27-11 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JayDerek (Post 10980195)
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/bluer2vsr1.htm

DVD Beaver review for Bleu - looks fantastic

Agreed. I'm really looking forward to the Three Colors set...

MTRodaba2468 10-27-11 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sondheim (Post 10981484)
On the Criterionforum the current "best guess" answer to the newsletter clue is a boxset of the four (notice how the cows are vaguely, maybe, sort of in the shape of a 4) David Lean and Noel Coward collaborations - that is a Lean Coward set.

I'm not sure the cows being "vaguely, maybe, sort of in the shape of a 4" would help the clue. I could be completely wrong, but I'd assume that if it were a box set, it would consist of five films, just due to the number of cows shown. Now, I can't think of five films featuring cows off hand that would be likely inclusions to the Collection, the Lean/Coward set is as good a guess as any.

Criterion's already released Brief Encounter, though, so this could be a way of re-releasing it, kind of like how the Agnčs Varda box set resulted in reissues of Cleo From 5 To 7 and Vagabond.

Doctorossi 10-27-11 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468 (Post 10981547)
Criterion's already released Brief Encounter, though

Not on Blu-ray.

Drexl 10-27-11 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sondheim (Post 10981484)
On the Criterionforum the current "best guess" answer to the newsletter clue is a boxset of the four (notice how the cows are vaguely, maybe, sort of in the shape of a 4) David Lean and Noel Coward collaborations - that is a Lean Coward set.

Oh geez, it's probably something much simpler. :)

MTRodaba2468 10-27-11 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 10981572)

Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468 (Post 10981547)
Criterion's already released Brief Encounter, though

Not on Blu-ray.

I realize that. That's why I followed up with:


Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468 (Post 10981547)
so this could be a way of re-releasing it, kind of like how the Agnčs Varda box set resulted in reissues of Cleo From 5 To 7 and Vagabond.


Sondheim 10-27-11 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 10981598)
Oh geez, it's probably something much simpler. :)

You're probably right, but...

Some of their more recent clues have been a lot more ambiguous than most (the "Belle du jour" one, for instance, was very obvious), and they're practically begging for people to make up all sorts of wild guesses as to what they could be hinting at. To me, the Lean/Coward set seems the most likely suggestion so far (As opposed to guessing every seemingly "Criterion-ish" film that has cows in it,) especially since there's been speculation for several years (since MGM cancelled the boxset they announced) that they were working on a set of Lean's early films.

Though, as you said, it's just as likely that it'll be something completely different. But it's fun to speculate (fun for me at least.)

zekeburger1979 10-27-11 08:50 PM

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I think it's referring to Twister.

"Cow."
"Another cow."
"I think that was the same one."

nitin77 10-28-11 07:16 AM

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nice last post :)

A Lean Coward set would make my day.

flansered 10-28-11 08:25 AM

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The cow hint is Satantango. The opening shot is 8 minutes of cows, and the cows in the hint are thin because Bela Tarr is from Hungary. Hungry Cows would be thin. I think that this is one of those times when the simplest answer is probably the correct one.

Doctorossi 10-28-11 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by flansered (Post 10982835)
I think that this is one of those times when the simplest answer is probably the correct one.

Director is from Hungary = Hungary = hungry = thin cows is the simplest answer?! :eek:

flansered 10-28-11 01:45 PM

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It seems (to me) a lot simpler than lean cowherd = David Lean/Noel Coward. But I know that that Criterion has mentioned somewhere that they are releasing Satantango. Personally I could care less if they do release it, but some people are excited about the idea.


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