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georgec 11-15-11 02:43 PM

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I've only seen Anatomy of a Murder.

I'll hand it to Criterion, though - they inspire me to watch movies I possibly wouldn't watch otherwise.

g 11-15-11 02:48 PM

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Vanya on 42nd street was actually a top notch movie. I saw that in the theater.

BambooLounge 11-15-11 02:49 PM

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Very excited about Anatomy of a Murder and will likely also grab Three Outlaw Samurai. Tiny Furniture does nothing for me and I will see about Vanya and World on a Wire.

flansered 11-15-11 03:06 PM

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I'm meh on the reissue of La Jetee and Sans Soleil due to the fact that the dvd is already anamorphic and looks good, and there are a good number of titles that need to be reissued due to the original releases not having anamorphic transfers (like Autumn Sonata, Picnic at Hanging Rock, or And the Ship Sails On) or in some cases the transfers where just not that great (like the Samurai Trilogy).

Sondheim 11-15-11 03:26 PM

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A pretty good month, with two that I'll want to have immediately (Anatomy of a Murder, World on a Wire), and one other that I'll get at the next B&N sale (Three Outlaw Samurai.) Vanya is fantastic, but since I already own the Sony DVD I probably won't upgrade for a while. I'm sure I'll rent Tiny Furniture, but pretty much everything I've read about it makes me think I'll dislike it.

Still, I'm disappointed every time there's a new announcement and it doesn't include a boxset, since it's been a surprisingly long time since they've released a non-Eclipse set. They apparently have quite a few in the pipeline - the Koker trilogy, the Apu trilogy, Wenders' Road Movie trilogy, Ingrid Bergman/Roberto Rossellini trilogy, etc. - and any one of those would automatically make for a fantastic month.

Originally Posted by flansered (Post 11005939)
I'm meh on the reissue of La Jetee and Sans Soleil due to the fact that the dvd is already anamorphic and looks good, and there are a good number of titles that need to be reissued due to the original releases not having anamorphic transfers (like Autumn Sonata, Picnic at Hanging Rock, or And the Ship Sails On) or in some cases the transfers where just not that great (like the Samurai Trilogy).

At this point in time I'm not buying many upgrades of films that I already have on DVD, but I do make exceptions for re-releases of some of their earliest, surprisingly low-quality spines (like the two Suzukis) and hopefully some of those you mentioned. The aforementioned Suzuki upgrades, the Fuller upgrades, the Diabolique upgrade, etc. make me hopeful that they're planning to eventually upgrade all of those earlier releases that they still have the rights to.

It'll be a great day when I can finally upgrade Andrei Rublev, my all-time favorite film, from the original mediocre non-anamorphic DVD to an anamorphic Blu-ray. (I realize that there's a Russian BD of the film available, but it's apparently a different cut of the film.)

JAYARE 11-15-11 03:33 PM

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in for Vanya on 42nd Street and possibly Tiny Furniture and Anatomy of a Murder once then next sale goes down

NoirFan 11-15-11 04:17 PM

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I'm excited for Anatomy of a Murder and I might look into Three Outlaw Samurai, but that's it, other than a rental of World on a Wire.

Kerborus 11-15-11 07:37 PM

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Looks great! I'm in for all of them. But I always buy all of them...

MTRodaba2468 11-15-11 11:23 PM

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I'm really excited for Anatomy Of A Murder and World On A Wire...

nitin77 11-16-11 05:20 AM

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Hooray for Gosha! And Anatomy too. Need to look up World on a Wire, Tiny Furniture and Vanya.

John Galt 11-16-11 07:16 AM

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Amazon currently has a price mistake on Anatomy of a Murder and World on a Wire. You can preorder both for $16.99 each.

toddly6666 11-16-11 07:36 AM

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It would be nice if Criterion mixed in must-haves into at least half of their grouped releases. This last bunch is one big MEH.

JayDerek 11-16-11 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by John Galt (Post 11006681)
Amazon currently has a price mistake on Anatomy of a Murder and World on a Wire. You can preorder both for $16.99 each.

pre-ordered! thank you

NoirFan 11-16-11 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by John Galt (Post 11006681)
Amazon currently has a price mistake on Anatomy of a Murder and World on a Wire. You can preorder both for $16.99 each.

Thanks for the heads-up. Hopefully they won't cancel like with Silent Running.

macnorton 11-16-11 09:31 AM

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Wow great catch on those! Got my pre-order in.

Also, Three Outlaw Samurai is currently at $20.99, which isn't a steal, but cheap enough for me.

flansered 11-16-11 10:13 AM

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I placed an order for Anatomy of a Murder, but I am expecting it to be cancelled.

jrsl76 11-16-11 10:23 AM

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Pre-ordered

I doubt these will be cancelled. I've often had the situation, several times with Marvel Omnibuses, where they put a lower MSRP at first so it has a better discount. Later they adjust, but I"ve always received them for the price I ordered at. I'd imagine the same here.

riotinmyskull 11-16-11 10:30 AM

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went ahead and pre-ordered ANATOMY... :fc:

clckworang 11-16-11 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by John Galt (Post 11006681)
Amazon currently has a price mistake on Anatomy of a Murder and World on a Wire. You can preorder both for $16.99 each.

Wow! Thank you very much for sharing. I just pre-ordered both of them. And I see no reason why Amazon wouldn't honor these orders. It would surprise me if they cancelled them.

JayDerek 11-16-11 11:10 AM

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I'm surprised this hasn't been corrected yet - as I'm assuming the preorders are coming in like mad this morning

NoirFan 11-16-11 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by clckworang (Post 11006937)
And I see no reason why Amazon wouldn't honor these orders. It would surprise me if they cancelled them.

It's a different branch obviously, but Amazon UK cancelled all of the mis-priced Silent Running pre-orders.

Sondheim 11-16-11 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by toddly6666 (Post 11006692)
It would be nice if Criterion mixed in must-haves into at least half of their grouped releases. This last bunch is one big MEH.

I'd say they did that do that time, even if none of the titles appeal to you. When it comes to appealing to as many parts of their demographic as possible, this is probably actually a pretty good month for them. There are at least two great films in this announcement (Vanya and Anatomy,) plus two (Anatomy and the sci-fi World on a Wire) that are likely to have an appeal beyond the usual Criterion fanbase. In fact, the Preminger is probably one of their more major announcements in a while - it's a classic film from classic Hollywood, and it also (I believe) marks the entry of James Stewart into the collection. I imagine it'll be a very good seller for them.

The Fassbinder is the most exciting release to me personally, since he's one of my favorite directors (though I realize you don't like him), and because I've been hearing a lot of positive buzz about this film specifically.

With that said, I've also been hoping for a bit more from the announcements the last few months, mainly because there are a few titles that I know that they're working on that I'm really anxious to get (the Koker trilogy, The Wedding March, Lonesome, some Rivette, more Wenders, more Satyajit Ray, etc.)

Sondheim 11-16-11 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 11006963)
It's a different branch obviously, but Amazon UK cancelled all of the mis-priced Silent Running pre-orders.

Of course, that was a more significant price mistake. I would imagine there's a threshold at which they're willing to "eat the cost" of a price mistake vs. getting the bad customer service of canceling a bunch of orders - but that's just a guess.

Anyway - these may well be cancelled, but I'll give it a shot since those are the two releases this month that I'd want right away.

PopcornTreeCt 11-16-11 11:57 AM

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Thanks for the heads up. I pre-ordered both.

jrsl76 11-16-11 11:59 AM

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Ok, so Koker is Kiarostami, WM is von Stroheim, obviously less specifics about Rivette, Wenders & Ray, but what is Lonesome?

John Galt 11-16-11 12:53 PM

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Glad I could help out for those of you who don't normally venture into the Amazon Bargains thread.

Hopefully these won't be canceled, and Amazon is normally very good about honoring mistakes like this, but it is sounding like there were a lot of orders placed...so we will see.

flansered 11-16-11 01:05 PM

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Both Anatomy of a Murder and World on a Wire are now unavailable for order. I had ordered Anatomy this morning and after thinking about it decided to order WoaW. My earlier order for Anatomy is still on my accounts page.

milo bloom 11-16-11 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sondheim (Post 11006990)
I'd say they did that do that time, even if none of the titles appeal to you. When it comes to appealing to as many parts of their demographic as possible, this is probably actually a pretty good month for them. There are at least two great films in this announcement (Vanya and Anatomy,) plus two (Anatomy and the sci-fi World on a Wire) that are likely to have an appeal beyond the usual Criterion fanbase. In fact, the Preminger is probably one of their more major announcements in a while - it's a classic film from classic Hollywood, and it also (I believe) marks the entry of James Stewart into the collection. I imagine it'll be a very good seller for them.

The Fassbinder is the most exciting release to me personally, since he's one of my favorite directors (though I realize you don't like him), and because I've been hearing a lot of positive buzz about this film specifically.

With that said, I've also been hoping for a bit more from the announcements the last few months, mainly because there are a few titles that I know that they're working on that I'm really anxious to get (the Koker trilogy, The Wedding March, Lonesome, some Rivette, more Wenders, more Satyajit Ray, etc.)


World on a Wire caught my attention, it's in my DVDAf wishlist to keep an eye out for reviews and such, and I've bought less than a dozen or so Criterions over the years.

Sondheim 11-16-11 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jrsl76 (Post 11007021)
Ok, so Koker is Kiarostami, WM is von Stroheim, obviously less specifics about Rivette, Wenders & Ray, but what is Lonesome?

It's a late-silent/early sound film (silent and sound versions exist) by Pal Fejos (who I know nothing about outside of the fact that he directed this film.) I haven't seen it (it's fairly hard to come by, at least legally), but the things I've read about it (from Jonathan Rosenbaum, David Thomson, people on the CriterionForum, the IMDb folks who made this list, etc.) have made me really excited to finally be able to see it.

As for the other directors I listed, there are actually some specifics: Their Wenders releases will at least include his "Road Movie" trilogy (Alice in the Cities, The Wrong Move, and Kings of the Road), and we'll probably get at least a few others like The State of Things. The Rivette will probably at least be Out 1. The Ray will be "the Apu trilogy," and hopefully others. Of course, those are all really only "confirmed" insofar that they've stated that they're "working on them" in comments on Facebook/in response to emails/at various discussion panels, etc. There's always the possibility that some of them will never actually materialize.

MTRodaba2468 11-16-11 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by flansered (Post 11007118)
Both Anatomy of a Murder and World on a Wire are now unavailable for order. I had ordered Anatomy this morning and after thinking about it decided to order WoaW. My earlier order for Anatomy is still on my accounts page.

They're both back up, but for $27.99 on each.

Damn, those were the two I wanted the most, too. I had to oversleep this morning...

NoirFan 11-16-11 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468 (Post 11007329)
Damn, those were the two I wanted the most, too. I had to oversleep this morning...

I missed out on the brief window during which all Criterions through January were 50% off from B & N due to sleeping in, so I'm glad I got in on this deal.

jrsl76 11-16-11 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sondheim (Post 11007284)
It's a late-silent/early sound film (silent and sound versions exist) by Pal Fejos (who I know nothing about outside of the fact that he directed this film.) I haven't seen it (it's fairly hard to come by, at least legally), but the things I've read about it (from Jonathan Rosenbaum, David Thomson, people on the CriterionForum, the IMDb folks who made this list, etc.) have made me really excited to finally be able to see it.

As for the other directors I listed, there are actually some specifics: Their Wenders releases will at least include his "Road Movie" trilogy (Alice in the Cities, The Wrong Move, and Kings of the Road), and we'll probably get at least a few others like The State of Things. The Rivette will probably at least be Out 1. The Ray will be "the Apu trilogy," and hopefully others. Of course, those are all really only "confirmed" insofar that they've stated that they're "working on them" in comments on Facebook/in response to emails/at various discussion panels, etc. There's always the possibility that some of them will never actually materialize.

Thanks. It's not often I come across movies I haven't heard of.

I knew about Wender's "Road Movie" Trilogy, but not "The State Of Things". I also heard "The American Friend" would be forthcoming.

Heard about Out 1 & the Apu Trilogy as well.

Hammer99 11-16-11 10:19 PM

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I'm in for Anatomy Of A Murder.

nitin77 11-17-11 03:33 AM

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Out 1? Seriously?? I would be so in for that one.

EEz28 11-17-11 02:24 PM

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http://i5.createsend3.com/ei/r/7F/D1...marionette.jpg

Being John Malkovich!!!!!

riotinmyskull 11-17-11 02:25 PM

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^ :thumbsup:

clckworang 11-17-11 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by EEz28 (Post 11008642)

Now that's an HD-DVD I would be happy to upgrade!

Gizmo 11-17-11 08:24 PM

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Got Rushmore today.

If not already mentioned, it comes with the Insert and Foldout poster like the DVD (though it's obviously shrunken a bit and slightly changed). Both show a runtime of 93 minutes on the case.

E Unit 11-17-11 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 11009113)
Got Rushmore today.

If not already mentioned, it comes with the Insert and Foldout poster like the DVD (though it's obviously shrunken a bit and slightly changed). Both show a runtime of 93 minutes on the case.

Well that answers the director's cut issue.

MTRodaba2468 11-17-11 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EEz28 (Post 11008642)

Glad to see Kaufman and Jonze in the collection. Now if only they could get Adaptation from Sony...


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