The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
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Yeah. I did get check discs on occasion in my nearly quarter-century of reviewing -- mostly in the DVD-era; I think Arrow was the only one who routinely sent check discs on Blu-ray, and they'd always follow with a retail edition a little later -- but it was nearly always final retail packaging with a punched bar code or "for promotional use only" sticker. I was never asked to send anything back. I do remember getting a couple of stray titles with what looked like final retail discs but no packaging.
I think Sonic the Hedgehog is the only thing I was asked to review with a streaming link (and it was watermarked with my name or something similar), but I didn't present it as a DVD/Blu-ray review. Mildly annoyed that I wasn't sent a physical edition afterwards.
My father wrote for an industry publication for a bit in the VHS era, and we definitely had our share of watermarked videos.
I think Sonic the Hedgehog is the only thing I was asked to review with a streaming link (and it was watermarked with my name or something similar), but I didn't present it as a DVD/Blu-ray review. Mildly annoyed that I wasn't sent a physical edition afterwards.
My father wrote for an industry publication for a bit in the VHS era, and we definitely had our share of watermarked videos.
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Josh Z (05-22-25)
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By the DVD era (aside perhaps from the earliest days), most review screeners sent out by studios to critics were simply copies of the full retail product. I started at DVDFile in 2000. In my many years at that site, DVDTalk, High-Def Digest, and Home Theater magazine, very few (as in, almost none) of the discs I received for review were compromised in any way or even distinguishable from retail copies. They came in full packaging with all the content and no watermarks. I was also never asked to return them. A not-insignificant portion of my movie collection is comprised of discs received as screeners.

I'm not sure how much that's affected physical media reviews, though. With physical media, what the remaining (if dwindling) audience cares about most is the quality of the product they are expected to buy. You can't properly review that if sent a link to a watermarked streaming copy. It's not the same thing at all.
There are a ton of movies from these labels – including many that were popular on the festival circuit, as my box of TIFF ticket mementos often reminds me – that are roundly ignored by virtually all the physical media review sites in favour, largely, of the more packed releases from our favourite boutiques who can easily afford to provide them. Admittedly, a lot of these indie label DVDs might include a trailer, maybe one of those superficial silly three-minute ‘making of’ things, and a couple of previews. But often they have nothing but a play button. I can’t imagine they’d be sending out too many screener discs since the presentations are basically locked-in, the films being recent enough that there isn’t any restoration work going on.
I’ve been out of the game too long, so I wouldn’t even begin to know how smaller outfits like these promote their releases, but since there isn’t much ‘content’ on the DVDs – thus making them far less of a collector thing – I wouldn’t be surprised if reviewers calling them for screeners are simply given a code for a stream. In other words, when you get outside the ‘cult boutiques’ niche, there’s a whole bunch of other stuff that very likely is the same thing whether you watch a disc (especially a DVD) or a stream.
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There are a ton of movies from these labels – including many that were popular on the festival circuit, as my box of TIFF ticket mementos often reminds me – that are roundly ignored by virtually all the physical media review sites in favour, largely, of the more packed releases from our favourite boutiques who can easily afford to provide them. Admittedly, a lot of these indie label DVDs might include a trailer, maybe one of those superficial silly three-minute ‘making of’ things, and a couple of previews. But often they have nothing but a play button. I can’t imagine they’d be sending out too many screener discs since the presentations are basically locked-in, the films being recent enough that there isn’t any restoration work going on.
I’ve been out of the game too long, so I wouldn’t even begin to know how smaller outfits like these promote their releases, but since there isn’t much ‘content’ on the DVDs – thus making them far less of a collector thing – I wouldn’t be surprised if reviewers calling them for screeners are simply given a code for a stream. In other words, when you get outside the ‘cult boutiques’ niche, there’s a whole bunch of other stuff that very likely is the same thing whether you watch a disc (especially a DVD) or a stream.
I’ve been out of the game too long, so I wouldn’t even begin to know how smaller outfits like these promote their releases, but since there isn’t much ‘content’ on the DVDs – thus making them far less of a collector thing – I wouldn’t be surprised if reviewers calling them for screeners are simply given a code for a stream. In other words, when you get outside the ‘cult boutiques’ niche, there’s a whole bunch of other stuff that very likely is the same thing whether you watch a disc (especially a DVD) or a stream.
If the outlets I worked for didn't receive a screener, the title was very unlikely to get reviewed. I might occasionally buy something at retail for review if it was a high-interest title or something I personally cared about enough to do so, but for the most part, the volume of content released every week was tremendous, and it was difficult enough just to get through the backlog of screeners.
If I received a disc for free, I felt a personal responsibility to make time to review it. On the rare occasions I just couldn't find time for one, I always felt bad about it and would typically set it aside in a special stack of "I'll get to it someday" discs. And indeed, some of those discs I did eventually cover after-the-fact when I was doing a daily blog at High-Def Digest.
But yes, I fully understand what you're saying about those annoying social media influencers who collect free swag only for the sake of showing it off and bragging about it, but never actually watch or "review" anything they get.
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"Reviews" nowadays are short YouTube clips by social media channels.
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"ChatGPT, write a review about this zombie movie and why I didn't like it" or better yet, "ChatGPT, make a video about this zombie movie and tell the audience it sucks and why."
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Aimee Lou Wood in the Criterion Closet. If you have no idea who she is, she was on the latest season of White Lotus. I loved this one. Very charming and has some good knowledge.
https://youtu.be/LDGACubU99g?si=ZYgXiN0FwZlroZtz
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The Wes Anderson Archive: Ten Films, Twenty-Five Years | The Criterion Collection
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Coming soon, available Sep 30, 20254K+Blu-ray20 Discs$399.96SRP: $499.95
DIRECTOR-APPROVED TWENTY-DISC 4K UHD + BLU-RAY SPECIAL EDITION COLLECTOR’S SET FEATURES
- New 4K digital masters of Bottle Rocket, Rushmore, The Royal Tenenbaums, The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou, The Darjeeling Limited, Fantastic Mr. Fox, Moonrise Kingdom, The Grand Budapest Hotel, Isle of Dogs, and The French Dispatch of the Liberty, Kansas Evening Sun, supervised and approved by director Wes Anderson, with 5.1 surround DTS-HD Master Audio soundtracks
- Ten 4K UHD discs of the films presented in Dolby Vision HDR and ten Blu-rays with the films and special features
- Over twenty-five hours of special features, including audio commentaries, interviews, documentaries, deleted scenes, auditions, short films, home movies, commercials, storyboards, animation tests, archival recordings, still photography, discussions/analyses, and visual essays
- English subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing
- PLUS: Essays by Richard Brody, James L. Brooks, Bilge Ebiri, Moeko Fujii, Kent Jones, Dave Kehr, Geoffrey O’Brien, Martin Scorsese, and Erica Wagner
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I am ALL OVER that in October! Or whenever Criterions next 50% off flash sale is.
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Man, particularly for a Wes Anderson fan, that set looks absolutely exquisite.
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I didn’t realize The French Dispatch of the Liberty, Kansas Evening Sun was the film’s actual title.
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There's also going to be solo 4k/blu releases of Isle of Dogs and The French Dispatch.
I really hope they break out the others at some point as well. Although, Royal Tenenbaums is probably the only one I NEED.
I really hope they break out the others at some point as well. Although, Royal Tenenbaums is probably the only one I NEED.
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Honestly a little surprised they didn’t delay it a few months, include both Asteroid City and The Phoenician Scheme, and call it a 30 year set. It’s not like his latest hasn’t been in the works for a while. Would have made the set another +$100 MSRP, though…
Still… I’m probably going to buy this during the next B&N 50% off sale. I’ve held off on even buying the blu-ray versions of some of his films, anticipating individual 4K releases. So getting them all at once is a bigger hit to the wallet, but well worth it.
Still… I’m probably going to buy this during the next B&N 50% off sale. I’ve held off on even buying the blu-ray versions of some of his films, anticipating individual 4K releases. So getting them all at once is a bigger hit to the wallet, but well worth it.
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Criterion also insists on calling Lynch's Mulholland Drive "Mulholland Dr." because the poster only showed the title as a street sign, but the official copyright in the end credits spells it out as "MULHOLLAND DRIVE."
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A bigger name, a smaller name. I do like that Zauner (whose excellent book ‘Crying In H Mart’ had its film adaptation stalled, sadly), unlike many of the celebs who visit, actually picks some movies that she’s only heard about or that have been recommended to her but she hasn’t seen yet, and actually seems genuinely intent on and capable of watching the discs (she also grabs a decent cross-section of Asian titles
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A bigger name, a smaller name. I do like that Zauner (whose excellent book ‘Crying In H Mart’ had its film adaptation stalled, sadly), unlike many of the celebs who visit, actually picks some movies that she’s only heard about or that have been recommended to her but she hasn’t seen yet, and actually seems genuinely intent on and capable of watching the discs (she also grabs a decent cross-section of Asian titles
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I love Spirit of the Beehive. It's definitely in the top 3 on my Criterion dvd upgrade wishlist along with The 49th Parallel and The Last Wave.
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In the world of "If I ran Criterion" - I'd release Victor Erice's Close Your Eyes, and upgrade The Spirit of the Beehive. Such brilliant films, made 50 years apart.
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Isle of Dogs, Flow and a reissue of Spinal Tap!!!!!! What a freakin month!
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Spinal Tap. Finally.
My only concern is that he trailer for this summer's theatrical rerelease had some altered dialogue in the scene where Marty DiBergi is discussing some of their old reviews. Instead of "treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality" he says "tasteless sexuality".
I'm really hoping that the line in question was only changed for the trailer and not a permanent change. It may not seem like a big deal to most people, but I've seen this movie a hundred times and the dialogue is seared into my brain. When even something that small is changed it sounds completely wrong and pulls me right out of the movie.
My only concern is that he trailer for this summer's theatrical rerelease had some altered dialogue in the scene where Marty DiBergi is discussing some of their old reviews. Instead of "treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality" he says "tasteless sexuality".
I'm really hoping that the line in question was only changed for the trailer and not a permanent change. It may not seem like a big deal to most people, but I've seen this movie a hundred times and the dialogue is seared into my brain. When even something that small is changed it sounds completely wrong and pulls me right out of the movie.
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Embarrassing announcement: I have not seen This Is Spinal Tap in its entirety, just bits and pieces here and there. I will pick up the 4K UHD out of penance.
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I am so excited for this. I brought the whole family to see this one in the theater and they didn't want to go because they'd never heard of it. I said, I'm asking you to trust my judgment. Needless to say, it was one of our top movies of the year and we watched the Oscar race between this and The Wild Robot (all 5 nominees were great, actually) with lots of interest.
My honest question: I would usually wait for the Barnes & Noble 50% off sale. And, I so very appreciate the work of this little Latvian animation studio that could. If I were to contemplate paying full price, who does that benefit? Criterion? Barnes & Noble? Gints Zilbalodis and Dream Well Studios? I know it's just an extra $20-$25, but for the first time in a long time, I'm wondering this sort of question. Anybody have any insight into this?
My honest question: I would usually wait for the Barnes & Noble 50% off sale. And, I so very appreciate the work of this little Latvian animation studio that could. If I were to contemplate paying full price, who does that benefit? Criterion? Barnes & Noble? Gints Zilbalodis and Dream Well Studios? I know it's just an extra $20-$25, but for the first time in a long time, I'm wondering this sort of question. Anybody have any insight into this?












