The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
#4777
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I found it incredibly long and slow paced, and found the multitude of characters interchangeable to the point where I wasn't completely sure who was who at times. That last point is entirely on me and not a fault of the movie per say, but it still made it harder for me to connect to the movie.
Give Rashomon a shot. It's only 88 minutes, and there's a small number of characters.
Or if you're into Shakespeare, Throne of Blood. It's under two hours.
Both of those were lent to me by a friend after I had only seen The Hidden Fortress (also good). Rashomon is probably my #1 favourite, but I have yet to see about half of his films.
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I would say that the rest of his catalog is substantially less so. Give one or two others a try and you'll quickly know if his pacing can work for you. I'd recommend giving Yojimbo a shot.
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From: Formerly known as "Solid Snake PAC"/Denton, Tx
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
I found it incredibly long and slow paced, and found the multitude of characters interchangeable to the point where I wasn't completely sure who was who at times. That last point is entirely on me and not a fault of the movie per say, but it still made it harder for me to connect to the movie.
#4780
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Glad to finally get a release date for Weekend, I feel like I've been waiting on it for years.
#4782
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I say "High and Low" is Kurosawa's most accessible and user- friendly film.
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#4785
re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
I found it incredibly long and slow paced, and found the multitude of characters interchangeable to the point where I wasn't completely sure who was who at times. That last point is entirely on me and not a fault of the movie per say, but it still made it harder for me to connect to the movie.
I've shown the film to around 30-40 people and it's a favorite amongst many. All opinions are different, but I think Rashomon is the most accessible Kurosawa and the easiest starting point for anyone interested in his films. That said, I started with Seven Samurai as well...because I had heard the most about that film.
#4786
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Rashomon is pretty accessible in part because everyone's seen a sitcom episode that derives from it in some way or another. But I would say that Yojimbo and Sanjuro are equally as accessible, but in this case they're compact films with some good humor, although they have a lot of characters.
I'd say Ikiru is a good opener too, but that's a favorite of mine anyway.
I'd say Ikiru is a good opener too, but that's a favorite of mine anyway.
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Hmmmmmm..........
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#4789
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You guys are way too kind. I say anyone who can't get through Seven Samurai should just give up on movies. Harsh, sure, but c'mon, it's fuckin' Seven Samurai!
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Heaven's Gate
New, restored transfer of director Michael Cimino’s cut of the film, supervised by Cimino
New restoration of the 5.1 surround soundtrack, supervised by Cimino, in DTS-HD Master Audio on the Blu-ray edition
New illustrated audio interview with Cimino and producer Joann Carelli
New interviews with actor Kris Kristofferson, soundtrack arranger and performer David Mansfield, and second assistant director Michael Stevenson
The Johnson County War, a video interview with historian Bill O’Neal about the real-life conflict that inspired the film, and its resonance in popular culture
Trailer and TV spots
PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by critic and programmer Giulia D’Agnolo Vallan
New, restored transfer of director Michael Cimino’s cut of the film, supervised by Cimino
New restoration of the 5.1 surround soundtrack, supervised by Cimino, in DTS-HD Master Audio on the Blu-ray edition
New illustrated audio interview with Cimino and producer Joann Carelli
New interviews with actor Kris Kristofferson, soundtrack arranger and performer David Mansfield, and second assistant director Michael Stevenson
The Johnson County War, a video interview with historian Bill O’Neal about the real-life conflict that inspired the film, and its resonance in popular culture
Trailer and TV spots
PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by critic and programmer Giulia D’Agnolo Vallan
And yeah, Jeffrey Wells is an asshole. He actually tries to make the argument that he knows it's bad because he saw it at the premiere. "I know. I was there."
It's kind of bizarre that so many people get so offended by the very existence of this movie. I'm so fucking sorry that thirty years ago you had to watch a movie that you didn't like. Are people still forcing you to watch it? Why get so pissy over the minority of people who like it?
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Nice that they got Cimino to participate with the transfer, but those are some pretty disappointing extras. No commentary from Cimino? No making of doc of any kind? Not even the preexisting one? No dueling comments from critics? COME ON!! There was so much potential for Heaven's Gate supplements. This is a rare day one purchase for me, but my excitement is a bit tempered.
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In this case, I've been hearing speculation that Cimino's participation in the release may have kept them from including some of the more contentious extras (such as the "Final Cut" documentary.) He apparently has a pretty big ego and the documentary doesn't exactly paint him in a flattering light.
If the interview is long I won't mind the lack of a commentary (since I can understand not wanting to talk over the length of an entire 216 minute movie.) But it really would have been nice to get the documentary.
#4799
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Yeah, every once in a while they announce a long anticipated release of a major film and the extras are completely underwhelming.
In this case, I've been hearing speculation that Cimino's participation in the release may have kept them from including some of the more contentious extras (such as the "Final Cut" documentary.) He apparently has a pretty big ego and the documentary doesn't exactly paint him in a flattering light.
If the interview is long I won't mind the lack of a commentary (since I can understand not wanting to talk over the length of an entire 216 minute movie.) But it really would have been nice to get the documentary.
In this case, I've been hearing speculation that Cimino's participation in the release may have kept them from including some of the more contentious extras (such as the "Final Cut" documentary.) He apparently has a pretty big ego and the documentary doesn't exactly paint him in a flattering light.
If the interview is long I won't mind the lack of a commentary (since I can understand not wanting to talk over the length of an entire 216 minute movie.) But it really would have been nice to get the documentary.
#4800
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In this case, I've been hearing speculation that Cimino's participation in the release may have kept them from including some of the more contentious extras (such as the "Final Cut" documentary.) He apparently has a pretty big ego and the documentary doesn't exactly paint him in a flattering light.



