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Old 05-17-11 | 09:53 AM
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No, maybe 5, two of which are Night of the Hunter and The Leopard, and I don't expect them to be able to really help me there since it would cost more to replace I assume. I think the others are Thin Red Line, Days of Heaven, and I forget the other one right now at work.
Old 05-17-11 | 10:17 AM
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Very excited to get The Killing. Looks awesome.
Old 05-17-11 | 11:26 AM
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My only complaint is the underwhelming extras on Cul de Sac. The featurette was already on the AB DVD, so Criterion are adding basically nothing.
Old 05-17-11 | 12:02 PM
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so....a handful of CC BDs is like....8 or 9?
I can fit 9 easily in my hand. (I just tried )
Old 05-17-11 | 12:13 PM
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That's why I brought up 8 or 9. 9 is my number too. Uncomfortable but when it comes to these B&N sales...two hands can hold a lot.
Old 05-17-11 | 02:38 PM
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Definitely in for The Killing
Old 05-17-11 | 04:22 PM
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This is a very impressive August slate. I'm interested in Battle of Algiers and The Killing right off the bat. I love if.... as well, but for CC's I'm trying to concentrate on releases I don't own at all right now, so I'll probably hold off on that for a while since I have the CC DVD already.
Old 05-17-11 | 05:07 PM
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While I will always yearn for the elaborate treatment Criterion was giving films before, I can't say I feel like arguing with their apparent new strategy of pumping up the bonus value by including secondary full feature films.
Old 05-17-11 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by droidguy1119
While I will always yearn for the elaborate treatment Criterion was giving films before, I can't say I feel like arguing with their apparent new strategy of pumping up the bonus value by including secondary full feature films.
I know, right?

I mean...Murder A La Mod may not be amazing or nowhere near the level of Blow Out...it's still a very interesting look at the growth of a director and still visually interesting if only for that.
Old 05-17-11 | 07:17 PM
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The Digital Bits has confirmed Killer's Kiss will be in HD!
Old 05-17-11 | 07:37 PM
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Well, I'm in for The Killing, Cul-De-Sac and If....
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The Digital Bits has confirmed Killer's Kiss will be in HD!
Old 05-17-11 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal
The Digital Bits has confirmed Killer's Kiss will be in HD!
Old 05-17-11 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal
The Digital Bits has confirmed Killer's Kiss will be in HD!
I knew it had to be but it's so much better when it's confirmed.
Old 05-17-11 | 08:58 PM
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I hate buying multiple movies that come in the same case (or on the same disc) when they're not in the same series of films, simply because I'm a nerd and I like alphabetizing and putting everything in its place. And especially for Kubrick, I'd like to have each of his films in its own case. I really wish Criterion would have put each film on its own disc. However, I very much appreciate that they're bringing lesser-known films to Blu-ray, and I love all of the effort they put in to creating a great package. I will buy and support this, without a doubt. My geeky love-to-organize stuff side is irked, but it will get over it.
Old 05-17-11 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by droidguy1119
While I will always yearn for the elaborate treatment Criterion was giving films before, I can't say I feel like arguing with their apparent new strategy of pumping up the bonus value by including secondary full feature films.
if it means a movie that might not have recieved an individual release has a change by tagging along I'm all for it within reason and I think this is a case of definately within reason
Old 05-18-11 | 02:57 AM
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My only complaint is the underwhelming extras on Cul de Sac. The featurette was already on the AB DVD, so Criterion are adding basically nothing.
Honestly, the fact that it's getting a Blu-Ray release is a pretty big something.

It's like with their eventual Y Tu Mama Tambien release. The MGM release is pretty good, but we know it'll be getting HD treatment thanks to Criterion releasing it, which is very benefitial to us...
Old 05-18-11 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468
Honestly, the fact that it's getting a Blu-Ray release is a pretty big something.
Yes, but every Criterion main-line release gets a Blu-ray edition now.
Old 05-18-11 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal
The Digital Bits has confirmed Killer's Kiss will be in HD!
Ah, but will it be real HD or upconverted? Criterion upconverts all of its SD bonus features to 1080i.
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Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468
Honestly, the fact that it's getting a Blu-Ray release is a pretty big something.

It's like with their eventual Y Tu Mama Tambien release. The MGM release is pretty good, but we know it'll be getting HD treatment thanks to Criterion releasing it, which is very benefitial to us...
I can't wait till they release YTMT. My favorite Cuaron movie. Also my favorite film w/ either Bernal or Luna. Just love it.

Originally Posted by Josh Z
Ah, but will it be real HD or upconverted? Criterion upconverts all of its SD bonus features to 1080i.
Blow Out had Murder A la Mod and that was proper 1080p...fucking loved Blow Out.
Old 05-18-11 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
Ah, but will it be real HD or upconverted?
Murder a la Mod was in (real!) HD, so hopefully the same will hold true here.

I've honestly never understood why Criterion upconverts all their standard-def extras. What really bugs me is when Blu-ray review sites crow about Criterion delivering all their extras in HD when on quite a few discs, most/all of them are glaringly sourced from SD. Writers who can't tell the difference between lousy upconverts and genuine HD really shouldn't be touching Blu-ray reviews.
Old 05-18-11 | 12:29 PM
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I've honestly never understood why Criterion upconverts all their standard-def extras.
Pretty sure it's because of the menu structure on their Blu-rays and a need for screen resolution. Only a simplified "Return to Menu"-style pop-up menu can often be accessed on other discs when the content shifts from HD to SD, so they upconvert the material in order to make the fluid bar navigation usable during all the features.
Old 05-18-11 | 05:58 PM
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This is great news on the Killing. My old Kubrick boxed set and Killer's Kiss and the Killing are now on eBay.
Old 05-19-11 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
What really bugs me is when Blu-ray review sites crow about Criterion delivering all their extras in HD when on quite a few discs, most/all of them are glaringly sourced from SD. Writers who can't tell the difference between lousy upconverts and genuine HD really shouldn't be touching Blu-ray reviews.
Apologies for my ignorance, but I think I need a quick remedial lesson. SD is 480p, but upconverted becomes 720p, correct? So, wouldn't upconverted SD extras be 720p, not 1080i? And if not, wouldn't Criterion's 1080i extras on a Blu-ray look superior to those same extras on a SD, which would be at 720p?


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Old 05-19-11 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by NoirFan
Apologies for my ignorance, but I think I need a quick remedial lesson. SD is 480p, but upconverted becomes 720p, correct?
You can upconvert anything to anything else, really. It's like resizing an image in Photoshop. There's no cap that says 1280x720 is as high as you can go.

(Your receiver may max out at 720p for upconverting, though. My Harmon/Kardon definitely stops at 720p for upconverts and only does 1080i/1080p if that's what's directly sent to it, but that's not a limitation that Criterion is facing. There are a fair number of other 1080i/1080p upconverts on Blu-ray too, such as that It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia Christmas special, and you can barely flip a channel on cable/satellite without running into something upconverted to 1080i.)

Originally Posted by NoirFan
And if not, wouldn't Criterion's 1080i extras on a Blu-ray look superior to those same extras on a SD, which would be at 720p?
It's the difference between the tools Criterion is using to upconvert vs. the gear in your home theater. I'd expect the difference to generally be negligible.

480p video also has the advantage of being much smaller and encoding more efficiently. Especially on single disc releases with quite a bit of upconverted extras (8 1/2, for instance), the 1080i upconverts are going to have to be very heavily compressed and/or they threaten the bit budget for the feature.

The menu explanation makes sense, although speaking just for myself, I've never found the popup menus on the SD extras on discs from every other studio to be confusing or disappointing.
Old 05-19-11 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468
It's like with their eventual Y Tu Mama Tambien release. The MGM release is pretty good, but we know it'll be getting HD treatment thanks to Criterion releasing it, which is very benefitial to us...
I lost my MGM release so


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