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digitalfreaknyc 02-21-07 09:02 AM

Because God forbid anyone criticize without proof... :rolleyes:

I agree. MPEG2 on BD-25 is bullshit.

Vipper II 02-21-07 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Bcolon
Link with studio released specs?

It's a Fox title, and given their track record with BD so far, it's not absurd to make an assumption that this title will have the same fate.

Mr. Cinema 02-21-07 09:19 AM

How many Fox BD's have been released that has contained all features from the dvd? Is it 0? Now if the biggest hit of the holiday season doesn't debut on a BD-50 with all extras, then that tells you Fox is probably going to be the first studio to double dip.

digitalfreaknyc 02-21-07 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
How many Fox BD's have been released that has contained all features from the dvd? Is it 0?

Actually...The Sentinel had all of them PLUS additional.

Grubert 02-21-07 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Vipper II
It's a Fox title, and given their track record with BD so far, it's not absurd to make an assumption that this title will have the same fate.

I was not assuming anything (see above).

Mr. Cinema 02-21-07 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Actually...The Sentinel had all of them PLUS additional.

That must have been accidental. :)

matome 02-21-07 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
How many Fox BD's have been released that has contained all features from the dvd? Is it 0? Now if the biggest hit of the holiday season doesn't debut on a BD-50 with all extras, then that tells you Fox is probably going to be the first studio to double dip.

X-Men: The Last Stand had all the extras in HD, plus HD exclusive ones as some of their other titles do. As far as a possible future Night At The Museum SE, it's fine with me since I don't double dip for extras.

ianholm 02-21-07 09:51 AM

Volver for me for sure :drool:. I wasn't too crazy about Night At The Museum.

Doughboy 02-21-07 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by matome
X-Men: The Last Stand had all the extras in HD, plus HD exclusive ones as some of their other titles do. As far as a possible future Night At The Museum SE, it's fine with me since I don't double dip for extras.

Technically X-Men was missing a few things. The teaser trailer and half of the deleted scenes. Of course Fox also botched the SD-DVD release as a lot of the copies out there didn't have all 21 deleted scenes.

Mr. Cinema 02-21-07 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Doughboy
Technically X-Men was missing a few things. The teaser trailer and half of the deleted scenes. Of course Fox also botched the SD-DVD release as a lot of the copies out there didn't have all 21 deleted scenes.

In addition to only offering Region 1 the single disc release. Other regions got the 2-discer. But Fox loooves doing that to us.

ianholm 02-21-07 04:04 PM

A Scanner Darkly and Dog Day Afternoon coming to Blu-Ray and HD-DVD on 4/10.

http://dvd.themanroom.com/dvd-newsview.php?id=482

DthRdrX 02-21-07 04:11 PM

That would mean Futureshop's other listed upcoming titles might really be coming soon.

Supermallet 02-21-07 04:11 PM

Sweet!

Vipper II 02-21-07 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by Grubert
I was not assuming anything (see above).

I was responding to the post that had the info, not the link; therefore, I interpreted it as an assumption.

Bcolon 02-21-07 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Because God forbid anyone criticize without proof... :rolleyes:

Wow! Another shot at me from you. Shocker!

Because I am the first person to ask for a link when new info is posted...

Gizmo 02-21-07 11:04 PM

HD-DVD...hello. We are still here.

Skoobooz 02-22-07 01:54 PM

Technical specs, features and cover art are up for A Scanner Darkly and Dog Day Afternoon. I really like the new Dog Day Afternoon cover.

http://dvd.themanroom.com/dvd-newsview.php?id=484

digitalfreaknyc 02-22-07 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Skoobooz
Technical specs, features and cover art are up for A Scanner Darkly and Dog Day Afternoon. I really like the new Dog Day Afternoon cover.

http://dvd.themanroom.com/dvd-newsview.php?id=484

You left out the important part. HD DVD gets lossless and BD doesn't.

matome 02-22-07 03:40 PM

They don't have TrueHD tracks, they have Dolby Digital Plus tracks which aren't lossless and are the same as the BD's Dolby Digital tracks, just with a different moniker due to the HD-DVD spec.

From Roger Dressler of Dolby Labs:


Due to the way HD DVD structures audio data in packets, the only way to offer advanced capabilities--higher quality sound and option for more channels--was to adopt a different codec than DD, which was locked at 5.1 and 448 kbps, same as DVD. DD+ was specifically designed to address HD DVD's structure--the DD+ coding frames become progressively shorter (from 6 to 3 or 2) to allow more of them to pass thru the framing structure in a given time, thereby raising the data thruput.

Blu-ray, on the other hand, has no such packet constraint. That allows DD to be used in its full 6-block frame for maximum coding efficiency (efficiency drops slightly as the frame size is reduced), and to use its full 640 kbps capability for the very first time on optical media, thereby bringing higher quality.

If you look at the DD+ structure when delivering a 7.1 program (someday), you will see a 2-frame pairing. The first frame is the usual complete 5.1 mix. The second frame has the new channels for the 7.1 mix. The second frame also has all the new metadata and channel management DD+ info needed to control the overall reconstruction process. This explanation is identical for HD DVD and BD. The only difference is that both frames in HD DVD are DD+ because they must have a shorter frame duration, whereas in BD the first frame is standard DD because it does not have to be shorter. Both frames in the BD pair are full 6-blocks, highest efficiency mode.

Furthermore, while HD DVD discs generally do not let you stream the DD+ to an output without going thru the mixer (and yes, the Toshiba player has the DD+ to DD640 converter, FWIW), BD does allow that option. So you have a chance to get the 640 DD stream right off the disc and into your AVR via S/PDIF. One might prefer that option to DD+ transcoded to DTS.

Given distinctly different circumstances, Dolby was able to adapt its coding technologies to bring improved quality and more channels to both formats. The goal was not to make the end results different, but the same in spite of the situation.
For a laugh, read through the entire 18 page thread at AVS where Mr. HD-DVD himself, rdjam, tries to argue with Roger and gets owned.

digitalfreaknyc 02-22-07 03:42 PM

You're right. My bad.

And I can barely read ONE page of babble on AVS...nevermind 18.

Supermallet 02-22-07 09:02 PM

A Scanner Darkly doesn't get lossless? Damn it. You'd think that the BRAND NEW movies would get one by default. Say what you will about BD, but they're pretty good at providing the lossless audio.

ScottsDvds 02-22-07 10:22 PM

Widescreen Review has rated several DD+ soundtracks on HD-DVD higher than Blu-Ray's DD soundtracks (same movies), but nothing was "night and day". I'll definitely pick up both Dog Day and A Scanner Darkly.

Grubert 02-23-07 05:13 AM

Universal announced Alpha Dog and The Hitcher (remake) for May 1:

highdefdigest

The Hitcher is the 2007 remake with Sean Bean, not the 1986 movie with Rutger Hauer.

Both to be combos, $39.98.

Note the highdefdigest note says that Alpha Dog's TrueHD track is "a first for the studio." That is not correct. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and End of Days had TrueHD.

Mr. Cinema 02-23-07 06:00 AM

Hopefully Alpha Dog's TrueHD track won't cause skipping problems like the previous 2 that contained that track.

XavierMike 02-23-07 08:19 AM

Looks like From Hell is still on track:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...-ray_Limbo/487


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