Hey remember those ads that were in our posts?

Can we get those back?

You must have hated it too when Geoff flipped us off

So if we'd have just oh, I don't know...reported discontent over the ad in this thread (without...oh my god...CRANKY comments *gasp*), they'd have taken it down? That makes sense...



YMMV, right?

= J

Tara, look at it this way; many of the repeat comments in these recent "I hate ..." threads have gone well beyond merely pointing out displeasure. My experience has long been that swearing, threatening to tear the place down, or violate the rules are all swell ways to get opponents to ignore you or dismiss anything you say regardless of the merits. Taking up a banner against the website owners as though you are a freedom fighter is unlikely to get them on your side either; it didn't work with G! and it probably won't do much better with IB.

Nate, I apologize if expressing an opinion contrary to your own is so upsetting; welcome to the internet. I don't like the ad either but if by "white-knighting" you mean providing another way to look at the history of the website and balancing out the often faulty memories on parade here, take care.

The other negative impact something like this has is making the reviewers on the site seem suspect. I LOVE DVDTalk's review staff, and consider them my number one source for theatrical and dvd reviews. HOWEVER, when the website owners are beings so obviously deaf to the complaints of its members, it's obvious they don't care about anything except their ad revenue. Well, wouldn't a negative review of a product they're obviously pushing so hard impact their customer's sales, and thus impact their own ad revenue? I'm not accusing any current reviewer, but I'm just wondering how limited our reviewers will be in the future, or if IB will install their own "reviewer" for certain products.

I rarely post on this site, but I visit it multiple times daily, and this worries me.

This has not happened to date but if it ever did, you could expect a mass exodus from the reviewer ranks within days, if not hours. I don't suspect John, the head review editor, would put up with it either.

Could not agree more.

My nearly 8 years visiting DVDtalk is in jeopardy if this type of advertising continues.

And Houstondon can say whatever he wants.....I visited Xcritic a few times and can't stand it!

IB, damage control time.

Does anyone see the irony in that the site that recently imposed a "family-friendly" policy, where you can't even post a pic of Jennifer Connelly in a bikini, is advertising an NC-17 gore movie (with very explicit, disturbing video and sound)

Frontier's scary marketing strategy

You know as well as anyone that this ad campaign will run its course no matter how the community responds.

I wasn't having a problem with this at home on my Mac but once I got to work I was completely unable to visit because the ad would blast out of my speakers when the mouse only came within sight of the banner. I think it is perfectly reasonable to say that I hate this ad (because this place is my favorite way to take five minutes away from a very stressful new job) and the response from IB has been, in a word, terrible.

So what does it matter how we complain? IB isn't going to do things differently, so we might as well bitch in here to at least make ourselves feel better. And what do you care how we do it either? I doubt IB cares about you any more than the rest of us.

i would have to agree... and noticing that Frontier(s) gets its own feature block on the front page (when was the last time a DVD got an entire feature to itself) including THREE links the trailer, plus a very positive review it smells fishy to me.

i'm not saying it isn't a decent DVD/film release... even though some other reviews i've read have placed it more in the 'acceptable' or 'average' realm.

i guess i'll wait and see what the rest of the reviews are like when they roll in but right now this just smacks of Gamespot/Kane & Lynch

my other main beef is that this is supposed to be a 'polite' roll-over ad but it expands and starts playing when i haven't cursored anywhere near it. i AVOID it like the freaking plauge but it still pops open and starts playing

that kind of marketing attitude, i.e. "well of COURSE people will just want to see our awesome trailer/ad ten times a day, WITH sound effects on full volume" bugs the crap out of me.

i've gone from annoyed, to angry, to frustrated to... just... sad. sad that DVDTalk is just cashing the check and not giving a crap about the actual owners of the eyes they are counting on to take in the ads and paid front page placements as 'impressions' and click-thrus. not that i'm surprised... just disappointed i guess.

i love coming to DVDTalk but i'm pretty much done. even if they got rid of the ad today, i wouldn't be here as much.

i have a negative association now.

it's also a bummer b/c, had i discovered frontier(s) on my own, even through a smaller more unobtrusive presence on this site or another, i might have liked it and felt a kind of personal ownership, which would have resulted in me recommending it to friends.

now... not so much.

Where did you get the impression you can't post of pic of Connelly in a bikini

It's too sexual. We have to link it and note that it's NSFW.

I would not go that far. It's nothing like that.

I just watched it this morning (mainly because of all the hype in this thread ) and frankly I think that's being very generous. I gave it 1/5 stars, frankly it's not really my usual type of movie, but I like to challenge myself occasionally. Those calling it a "torture porn" obviously haven't seen it. There is gore/lots of blood but we're not talking the guts spilling out type stuff. Lots of splatter, a circular saw and some bolt cutters are about it. There's very little in the way of porn aspects to it though. So if this is France's "answer" to anything (as I think one person said in one the threads about it) it must have been a very stupid question

One question/issue I do have though...

Once again bikinis are ok (if you've seen something written differently please let us know so we/the mods can make sure we are all on the same page). If it's of a see through/not quite there type then that's another thing. Standard, what you would see on a beach [not a topless beach ]/"Baywatch"/commercial TV is fine. I swear you people are determined to make this issue larger/more problematic than it really is

Well what I really meant to say was that we can post one randomly, but we can't start a thread about one. Which seems weird.

This Scarlett Johansson pic has her wearing more clothing than if she was in a bikini, and it's NSFDVDTALK.
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp...son_allure.jpg

But anyway, that's not what this thread is about... booo ad!

From the rules...
You can have a bikini shot that's not sexually-suggestive, you can also have a shot, like the Johansson one, that is but has more than a bikini. The thing about starting a thread is to avoid the type of thread where everyone tries to outdo each other in what sort of pic they can find. Do you really not see the difference in these things or are you being purposefully obtuse because you're upset about what's going on?

Also, in a way I think the ad and this thread does tie into the NSFW discussion. I know these ads have come up in the past, and Geoff's response has been to "deal w/ it", which is essentially what's going on now. The number and tone of posts though seems to be more "outspoken" (to put it nicely ) than in the past in part because of IB taking over (some people have stated as much) but I think also because everyone is a little charged up now from the NSFW discussion. JMO...

Wha? My brain asplode.

The problem for me is that I can't come back to DVD Talk on my home computer even if I wanted to. The Frontier ads cause my browser to freeze. The only way I can view DVD Talk now is at work and I can't spend as much time with it there as I do at home.

Butterface.

nice legs though....

My point is - how can you object to linking suggestive (yet non-nudity) pictures when the forum has an embedded video of torture-porn?

You know what a disparity is?

How much freakin' longer is that baby going to run? It's the most annoying thing. If Lionsgate reads this, I hope they realize that this is NOT the way to advertise your film.

The thing is, that could be a DARK KNIGHT promo and I would STILL hate it...it's just an obnoxious, intrusive ad.