re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Of course. But market conditions shift and business strategies may also have to do so.

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I want it so bad but I can't justify 500 bucks for this, the wheelchair one the fzero type one, and picross. That gets you seven day one aaa games on pc.

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Well I guess we'll see soon enough if Sony and Microsoft just "eat the cost" as well because it's not like they're immune to all of this.

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That could be why they delayed preorders. Not just internally figuring out what to do but actual international negotiations. Nintendo is definitely one of the jewels of Japanese exports. Of course it doesn’t do as much volume as say Toyota or Sony but it’s extremely culturally significant. Like Disney is to the US. It’s part of their brand.


I honestly don’t know if they would ever recover if they have to go back on the price and increase it. Especially for their initial launch. Maybe they’ll advertise it as an introductory price.

I predict this will be the push that Nintendo needs to price digital games less than physical games. It’ll piss off their retail partners for sure but maybe they can make up for that by selling game cards with the codes on them. Watch. You’ll see MADE IN THE USA proudly stamped on those cardboard codes in the near future. :lol:

I’m not entirely sure if they realize how much of a precipice they are on right now. I agree they might have to eat some of the cost now to save this entire console generation.

Yeesh…this is REALLY not good for Nintendo. I guess that’s one silver lining to this whole mess.

I hate to say it but I really think they should just eat the cost. At least to save this launch. Like I said before announce they’re cutting the price of MKW to $70 and including that tech demo with every console. It won’t cost them very much at all but will go a long way to buy good favor with their customers. Even better would be to price the enhanced Switch 1 games exactly like their retail price now. And announce that MP4 will be the same price for Switch and Switch 2. Give people another reason to upgrade.

Even if they keep the console price the same and increase the physical game to that $80 I think they can dodge responsibility and most people would rightly blame the current economic war for that price difference.

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Let's say these things ship from Vietnam, which currently has something like a 46% tariff. I have no idea what price stores pay for a game system but my understanding is the profit margin by the retail store is minimal. But I assume the tariff is going to be calculated based on whatever that cost is. I just don't see how they could eat and continue to eat an almost 50% markup (more if it's sourced from China) on every single console sold, then eat that same markup on every single physical game sold AND every accessory sold (at least they make bank on games and accessories though)

Also remember despite what some people claim, tariffs are charged NOT to the country of origin, so they'd have to work out paying the tariff directly or some really complicated price structure where they lower the price they charge companies and that plus the tariffs equal the price they originally set. Which if tariffs change they would have to completely redo.

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$499.99 with the Mario Kart bundle is my limit. If they price it any higher, I will get one down the road. Maybe the holiday season, if that.

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Vietnam is being negotiated with, to stay apolitical these tariffs are fucking stupid and based on poor math -- but they are likely to be reduced fairly quickly for many countries.
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And what if they aren't, would Nintendo be able to just eat the cost? I'd think no. Which is also why it's not great to decide on tariffs (and remove them) on a whim with less than a week's notice. I'd think Nintendo has to operate like the tariffs are in place and not assume every country they source from will negotiate successfully.

I mean if we're talking 10 percent or less, that's still big but I could see eating it. 40 to 50%?

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Shouldn’t the systems be here already? When does the Tariff go into play? That day?? Can they ship them all here before it goes in to effect. I mean it’s only a bandaid but a pretty big one to salvage this launch.

This tariff business is just insane. So companies just need to up and move everything to the US as if that’s something even remotely possible. What about components that are sourced from different places? Maybe Nintendo needs to ask Russia and China how to skirt sanctions/tariffs. :)

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Midnight tonight for the 10%, the rest on April 9th.

Nintendo isn't going to eat the costs and the price will adjust up in some manner. Maybe not a full 50% but noticeable.

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

what's midnight at 10%?

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The 10% tariffs go into effect tonight, the other ones (that vary per country, 10 is the floor) next week.

The only difference this makes is if something makes it into port and through customs in between they will be potentially charged less. No idea where these consoles are, do we know for sure they're already in port?

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i just heard on the news that preorders for 4/9 just got delayed bc of the tariffs. no new date was given, just that Nintendo will notify in the future. pooh.

Nintendo Switch 2 pre-orders delayed because of Trump tariffs

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This is an act, right? You're actually aware that we've been actively discussing this for two pages now, aren't you?

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No he rushed here to tell us as soon as he heard! He cannot be bothered to catch up.

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If the ocean vessel is already on the water, or departs before April 9th in the case of the 45% percent tariff rate on Vietnamese goods, then the extra duties will not apply, they are based on vessel departure date, not the date of arrival at a US port. I guess this will depend on where Nintendo's shipment currently is. If still in Vietnam, they better hurry up and make sail. :lol:

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Clearly the best solution is to redistribute all other countries allocated stock to the US by the 9th so that we can have the $449/499 price and enough supply to outlive the tariffs and delay the worldwide launch until they can make more for them.

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can always count on you with your quips and barbs literally the next post after mine. Good job! :up:

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*for you

Even if that's how you view the system, $500 for a handheld is absurd. Also there's rising costs and then there's jumping $200 in a single generation.

I'm leaning the other way. Nintendo should reallocated US stock to the rest of the world and just call off this launch until Trump's nonsense ends. Piss off enough young gamers and maybe they'll start paying attention and turn out to vote for a change.

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

While obviously more niche, there are other handhelds (ROG Ally, Steam Deck) that reach that pricepoint. To me 90 bucks for "handheld games" is a bigger challenge. IIRC one of the drawbacks of the PSP was that while at the time it could deliver incredible games like Uncharted, the development costs were so high that they couldn't justify making portable games and people didn't want to pay more. Of course the Switch has the benefit of also being a full fledged (though classically underpowered) console as well so maybe times changed, but it's tough sledding to be first out of the gate with the price increase with a system that is not by far the highest powered console out there.

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

How I view the system?? It’s literally a handheld console. Whether you use it in Handheld mode is irrelevant. It still has the physical constraints of a handheld. And expecting it to perform like PS5 is absolutely absurd.

of course pricing it like a PS5 is absurd too…

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Then why make a dock at all?

I've spent 98% of my gaming on Switch with it docked. It's a console for me.

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You’re going to make me defend Oldboy Decker :lol:

But in his defense I couldn’t see Maxflier’s post about the delay. When I saw the news I went here to post it and couldn’t see what he posted. Of course I did read the thread so I figured someone posted it. So there’s no defending that….:lol:

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Did you block him? ;)

Or because X didn't load? That's fair. But yeah not too tough to see what we're discussing before posting breaking news, I mean he even knew we were talking about the tariffs... :)

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Because it’s made for both….?

Look if you’re expecting PS5 graphics at $300 go right ahead. Most other people have a more realistic view on what’s possible in such a small form factor.

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And here's what you then posted, with no Twitter link needed. :
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...a298d6148b.jpg

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:p

Yeah I know…

This is why I don’t like defending you Oldboy! You’re indefensible. :lol:

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:hscratch: Did they change the price already? It's a $500 machine.

Nintendo wants to be the underpowered console and not chase pixels but at the same time charge for a premium console. All the while removing features (OLED & battery life) and almost charging double their last console. It's a bizarre amalgamation of of baffling decisions.

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Between the packaging and word from Nintendo UK, the physical Switch 2 editions of games like Breath of the Wild, Tears of the Kingdom, Metroid Prime 4, and Kirby and the Forgotten Land are actually Switch 1 carts with a code for the upgrade packs.

If the Switch 2 box for Metroid Prime 4 looks anything like this ugly beast, I might just keep my ancient Best Buy preorder with the GCU discount and buy the upgrade on its own. :lol:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...0b73bc32d1.jpg

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You kind of make it easy.

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even bots have feelings too.

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https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...f3124cfad2.gif

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Wakes up (pst). Walks into thread with bed hair and one eye still closed.

Scrolls up a bit.

Imma need coffee for this.

Walks out.

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I’m not the one expecting it to have PS5 level graphics at $300 in a console that’s 1/10 the size.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...77083d609.jpeg

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I’ve seen a lot of reports about this lately but I thought it was pretty clear in the direct and the box art that this was the case on existing Switch - upgraded games. We later got confirmation that MP4 was the same case. I brought it up a little bit ago.

I guess we don’t know if it’s actually a code in a box with the black Switch 1 game cart or if it’s encoded on the cart and automatically downloads. My guess is it’s the former. Because that’s cheaper to make which is one of the big reasons why Nintendo is going this route.

IMO it’s yet another blunder on Nintendo’s part. It’s confusing, disingenuous, and a blow to game preservation. So these Switch 2 enhancements will someday only live on people’s consoles. Giving folks yet another reason to sail the high seas. That’s why I previously said I really want MP4 to release for the Switch 2 with its enhancements on the cart. And yeah I agree the box art is terrible with the giant banners.

…but I guess that’s no different than what every other game company is doing. But I trust MS and Sony more that we’ll still have access to their servers for a lot longer than Nintendo. And I mostly care more about being able to play Nintendo games in the distant future.

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Sail the high seas... you mean once these stop being sold and the servers shut down or something?

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I wish they would get off the pot and announce when pre-orders will start. The waiting game is getting tiresome.

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Nintendo is not where the blame ought to be placed. It's an impossible situation; if they adjust the price for tariffs, it's an astronomical increase that'll price them out of the market. If they eat the tariffs, they're hemorrhaging billions of dollars. I have to assume they're waiting to see if cooler heads prevail regarding tariffs and potentially weighing which of the other options are the least catastrophic.

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

I totally agree with your statement. Nintendo is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Whatever they do, there's going to be a large group of people crapping on it.

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

I mean how foolish of Nintendo to think tariffs were going to be like 10% and not 40 to 50% and based off of trade deficit? Plan ahead next time. /s