re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

For those who care about where the game data lives, Play Asia's listing for Elden Ring points out that it's a Gamekey, or whatever the hell Nintendo is calling it. Purely for activation and starting a download.

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No extra battery size but more weight! Switch 2 weighs 1.17lb with Joycons, compared to the .88 of the current standard model.

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It’s too bad Metroid Beyond isn’t a launch title. I know they’ll have it for 1 too, but still would have been a better sell than MKW, imo.

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I can't wait until everyone here starts panicking release day that they need one because of FOMO :lol:

(alright maybe only a few of you ;))

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Apparently preorders are going live in Canada at noon Eastern, according to Best Buy Canada. Maybe the same will hold true on the other side of the border.

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🤣🤣🤣

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The same Best Buy Canada who said pre-orders start yesterday?

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They're offering launch PS4 (2013) tech at a PS5 Pro (2024) price. Also paying more should include more features not less (no OLED, worse battery, etc) than it's predecessor. You don't evolve tech and then go backward.

Interesting seeing the backlash. Nintendo could be looking at another WiiU on the horizon. They were high on their own supply with the Wii and thought people would just lap up the WiiU. Here we are again and they're high on their own supply with the success of the Switch and think they can charge whatever they want. It was the same with Sony coming off the PS2. Those that don't learn from from history...

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I think a lot of you are forgetting it’s a handheld device. You’re comparing a PS5 (have you picked up that thing lately? Seriously it’s monsterous) to a Switch. Smaller than a Chromebook.

Really? What the Switch should have been? Back in 2017 When they Nintendo invented the entire device category of a portable home console? It should have been 4k 60p or with a 1080p 120hz screen? Some of the PC handhelds don’t have those kind of specs today and cost the same or more than the Switch 2.

and the PS Portal? That’s what you’re comparing it to? That’s not even a system. It’s a screen and a controller. And it isn’t perfect by any means. And extremely limited compared to and actual game system.

How in the world is $299 the right price. That was 8 years ago. Look around. You still paying the same price for those McNuggets that you were 8 years ago???

Maybe it was Sony who drew first blood with the PS5 Pro at $700. But they got made fun of for that pricing too so not sure what lesson Nintendo took from that if any.

At first glance it’s pretty disappointing about the OLED. But I’m highly impressed by the 1080p 120 Hz screen. Many PC handhelds don’t have that fast of a refresh rate. And it has a variable refresh rate screen so will adapt to whatever the game requires. That may have been the reason to ditch the OLED for the VRR and 120 Hz. And of course for an upgrade path in the future.

Seems like it’s just certain regions that might charge more for physical than digital. The US seems to be the same price. For now…

I’m not sure why they would do that. The only advantage the wave bird had was wireless connectivity. The first controller to have reliable rf wireless connectivity. And it had a lot of negatives as well like no rumble and a wireless doohicky and batteries to worry about.

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Again. It’s a HANDHELD device. And PS5 pro? It’s $250 less than that.


I’m right there with you guys and everyone else. I’m mad at Nintendo mainly for the game prices and the stupid game key card thing. (Although again that’s a limit use thing. Seems to be taking the place of the code in a box thing.) Hopefully it stays that way. The console price I’m not happy about either but at least that’s a one time cost and at least we’re (seemingly) getting a pretty great console out of it.

But expecting them to sell it for $300 or comparing it to the PS5 pro is pretty ridiculous. We do have a pretty powerful system. Nvidia released a statement on the power of it and said does have the capability of DSLL and ray tracing. And is 10 times more powerful than the Switch. I don’t know about all that. But it is capable of 1080p 120 hz and 4k 60p. That’s already very impressive and something that I was hoping for but wasn’t sure if they would be able to do it.

I’m VERY interested to see what Nintendo will do (if anything) about the backlash. All of the problems that people are mad about could potentially go away with one announcement from them. So the good news is at least the hardware and the experience seems to be good. It’s more policy and pricing. I know there’s a snowballs chance in hell that will happen. Especially after “Liberation Day”.

But….its not without precedent. Remember the botched 3DS launch? They apologized, dropped the price and gave a bunch of goodies to early adopters. Even something like lowering the cost of MKW by $10 measly dollars and including that stupid tech demo would go a long way to quell the haters. At least a little bit.

I’m worried that Nintendo is just totally unaware/uncaring of the backlash. They had Reggie to convince them to include Wii Sports as a pack-in with the Wii and the rest was history.

I’m not sure about this Bowser guy. Seems kind of sketch…

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

I’m still getting one at launch. Although I’m much less excited about than I was until just after the direct was over. Here’s my reasoning.

• I’m a huge Nintendo fan. Even though I didn’t get a Wii U or Switch at launch. I’m able to this time so I’m there day 1.
• The price isn’t coming down so it’s pointless to wait from my perspective if I know eventually I’ll pick one up. There’s really zero advantage to waiting.
• Biggest reason is Nintendo specifically said that the MKW bundle is for a limited time only. I think they even said only until the Fall? So that means they’re serious about wanting to charge $80 for MK and want to get it out of a bundle ASAP so that right there saves me $30 over waiting.
• I can’t wait to pay $80 for a 3 year old Kirby game! :lol:

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The more I think about it, the more pissed I am about them charging for Zelda system upgrades. Both Xbox and Playstation gave free generation upgrades for all their games for literally years. Now even when Sony does a major PS5 upgrade, years later, like with TLoU Part 2 or the upcoming Days Gone, they're only asking $10 for the upgrade.

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Based on the pricing of the bundle pack I think it is a $10 up charge.

But yes ridiculous how they’re handling it. All the games they’re releasing like that are years old and minimal upgrades, at least with the Zelda games. They should have released it as Switch 2 games complete on the cart at their original selling price. $60 and $70 for TotK. With of course an upgrade option for those that have it already. I’m not sure how much they added to Kirby and Mario Party so maybe that’s worth a DLC price. But yes. The way they are parading Switch Games as Switch 2 games even in Switch packaging but they’re really just Switch games with Switch 2 upgrades but PRICED exactly like just buying the Switch game AT FULL price and a forced upgrade?? Seriously Nintendo?? You didn’t think about the optics of having a “Switch 2” Kirby game with an $80 price tag?! Selling BotW an 8 year old game for $70?!

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I'm looking forward to getting one. I don't care about all the BS that comes along with it. do I agree with it? absolutely not, but we can't do anything, so I'll just buy the Switch 2 which is much better in every way than the Switch 1. I'm looking forward to this new one and the power it harnesses now. plus, I was always a Nintendo fanboy and I thank goodness I am once again.

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Nostalgia. I said replica, not a recreation. Just the shell on a working controller. There are people out there who buy every controller and maybe multiples of some just for multiplayer.

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One of my boys let me know that the Zelda BotW and TotK Switch 2 upgrades will be free for those with NOA + Expansion.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...33617b48f.jpeg

That’s cool.

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I really like my Switch, although I’ve played it less since I bought my PS5. I’m a fan of Nintendo though so I’d like to support them, but not sure I’m jumping right in to Switch 2.

Feels expensive overall. The unit itself I can deal with the price of, but the $80 games.. oof. I’d definitely be less impulsive buying games than I was for the original Switch, which I have a fairly large collection of games for.

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While I have no intention of getting the Expansion, I am curious, is the game enhancement upgrade like a one and done thing or if your subscription lapses does the enhancement upgrade go away?

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I have a feeling that they might reverse that sooner rather than later. Tariffs are going to hit physical products and (at least as of right now) not digital products. I'm actually wondering if they priced this with tariffs in mind because at least to me, the tariff rate on Japan was way way higher than I ever dreamed. I thought maybe 10 percent. They may regret not delaying their announcement by like a day or two.

edited to add: and here we are.

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I’m pretty sure it’s like the other subscription models and it goes away if you let it lapse. I’ve been avoiding the expansion pack subscription so I just outright bought the DLC for AC and MK.

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That's what I figured. I am not a fan of that system and would prefer just paying whatever and locking in the upgrade.

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Oh shit!

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That reads like they may increase it even more, but I would wager it's more about the price of software being too high.

No issue with them catering to their home market, however they need good revenue from NA to be profitable.

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If it was software, why would they need to halt pre-orders for the system?
Sounds like they need to raise the price beyond $450/500.

One thing I do find odd, is this news is coming from some dude on Twitter. Where is the statement from Nintendo themselves?

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

If their goal is to neuter their revenue, that's a great strategy. They have to know our market will not eat up a new handheld game console for that price while we watch our economy crater. Making it the same price as a PS5 would be insane.

Plus, their live chat for the Treehouse event is being spammed with "Drop the Price" to the point where real comments weren't getting seen. I'd imagine the same will happen today, as well.

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They might not have a choice unless they're just going to bleed money on hardware (which they never do). Like I said before there's no way they could have factored in those frankly insane tariffs in their pricing model. And it might be the time to just push everyone towards digital (until they find a way to tariff that).

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Selling a console at a loss and making it up in game revenue (Sony's strategy) is better than not having many consoles sold. Can't sell bloated software to people who don't buy the hardware.

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They're a Gamestop editor and there is more detail in their story in the reply to the original post.

Something about Twitter's new algorithms makes it bad for people to post article links in the initial post. Rather, attach it to a reply.

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This is the actual statement from Nintendo to Gamespot:


HAPPY LIBERATION DAY!!!

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-switch-2-preorder-guide-mario-kart-world-bundle/1100-6530531/

…interesting. Why couldn’t I copy and paste it from X….

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Exactly. Sell hardware for slight loss or break even. Profit on all the games sold. It is a fairly validated method based on previous generations.

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Sony (and Microsoft) can have that strategy (at least in the past) because their companies are not entirely dependent on the games division, though. Nintendo has historically been very risk adverse because they have most of their eggs in this basket and can't make up revenue elsewhere. And a 25 to 50% tariff is pretty massive, for everyone involved.

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Nintendo hasn’t played that game in a really long time.

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Nintendo made almost 4 billion in straight profit in 2024, on over 11b in revenue. They can afford it.

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I guess I need to figure out how high I am willing to go for this thing.

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That's cool that you think they can just eat those costs, I guess.

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Again, it's not eating cost. It's understanding that selling a console at a loss is a good thing if that same person buys a couple 8 year old games for $80 each. Both Zelda games paid off their dev cost long ago. Any sales for those games on S2 is 100% profit.

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I mean the other calculation for a system that is fully backwards compatible is that the used market is inundated with these games. Yes people will have to pay the 10 dollar upgrade to Nintendo but otherwise Nintendo sees none of that money (from used game buying). They clearly still have a strategy to support the original switch for a while so maybe they can play the waiting game? I'm just speculating here.

The other part of this politically is that this may be a big enough product that this could play into whatever negotiations Japan has with the US since the tariffs are being used as leverage. It's worth it to at least investigate that avenue instead of just eating the cost outright.

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The irony of this situation is insane after the "drop the price" movement yesterday and it turns out they are actually going to have to raise it.
What a nightmare scenario for Nintendo, I bet they regret waiting so long to release this thing now.

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I wonder what Nintendo is going to do who registered for their pre-orders, with the price set. Do they honor that price, or do they ask for more $$$?

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I mean it was just a registration to put money down in the future, so I can't believe that's a guarantee to pricelock anything, right?

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FWIW, pre-orders are up basically everywhere else in the world, and they're not selling out. So there might not be as much FOMO to battle against here if you want a Switch 2 at launch (especially if the price goes even higher!).