Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11705277)

The thing I think a lot of you are missing is that if Microsoft does all the "horrible" Gamestop damaging things you're speculating they're about to do, Sony will follow suit. There will not be a hero and villain in this scenario.

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11705282)

Looking forward to the Astroglide and Trojan Magnum ads on the dashboard after Kinect catches the wife and I in action.

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11705199)

If that's true than GameStop is signing their own death warrant. They go from making 100% pure profit (minus what they bought it for) to 10%? That doesn't even sound right.

Originally Posted by Mr. Music (Post 11705320)

Watched 9 songs?

Originally Posted by Mr. Music (Post 11705321)

Magnum.... uh huh... :lol:

Originally Posted by xmiyux (Post 11705127)

A couple random responses:

To the claim that selling the licenses back will be jumping through so many more hoops. I imagine it will be as simple as "hit X, refund this license for 15$ credit? y/n." That would be significantly easier than mailing it to Amazon or driving to Gamestop. Will I get as much credit? Not at all... but it isn't more hoops and - to be honest - I'm fine getting less back if it is significantly simpler.

Achievements in TV and other things will be awesome. Heck, I already chase after badges in the Untapped for drinking various beers. I would do the same thing for TV.

I also predict the mobile market changing. I buy a bunch of board games on iOS and prices are definitely going up. They do not average the buck a download that many games do. And I think it is a good thing. The quality of the games have also been going up. I will happily pay 15-20$ for a high quality iPad game. I am sure for a console I would happily do 20-30 easily.

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11705199)

If that's true than GameStop is signing their own death warrant. They go from making 100% pure profit (minus what they bought it for) to 10%? That doesn't even sound right.

Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11705386)

My guess is that it's not as simple as "They're dumb". They're either waiting for Sony to blink, or there are partnerships with retailers that have to be worked out before they can say anything concrete.

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 11705430)

You do know how profit is calculated, right? If there's costs to deduct, then it's not "pure profit". It's like saying that EA makes $60 pure profit on the games they sell new (minus development, manufacturing, and distribution).

Anyway, Gamestop has additional costs than just the price they paid for a used game. If a game title drops in price, they may have to sell a used copy they previously bought for less than they paid for it. They have to junk damaged discs that they bought in, etc.

Originally Posted by cruzness (Post 11705445)

I thought Sony's stance was that they would let 3rd party developers decide how to handle used games while their first party titles would not have any restrictions

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11705526)

Yes, I'm aware, but you still caught my drift.

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11705526)

*fire the moron bringing in damaged discs. :lol:

Originally Posted by Polygon (Post 11705441)

The Xbox One will not require gamers to pay a fee to reactivate a used game, but it will require a regular online spot check to verify the authenticity of games being played, according to sources familiar with the system.

While an internet connection will be required for the console, the company is also experimenting with special exemption codes that could be given to select people in very particular, internet-free situations, like active-duty soldiers serving in war zones, sources tell Polygon.

The ultimate system that Xbox One will use for used games and online authentication sounds like it is still in open debate on some level internally, which may explain the company's reticence in more directly clarifying the matter this week. Microsoft executives have been discussing the reaction to the confused messaging surrounding used games and internet requirements and plan to detail the console's take on both sometime before E3, according to our sources.

During this week's Xbox One unveiling, Microsoft officials gave conflicting answers to questions about used games and online requirements. According to an official Q&A from Microsoft, the Xbox One does not "have to be always connected, but does require a connection to the Internet." Speaking with Kotaku, Microsoft's Phil Harrison said that the console would require an internet check every 24 hours.

Microsoft officials later said that was one potential scenario.

According to Polygon's sources, Microsoft officials haven't yet settled on the specific amount of time that can pass between checks, but that some form of regular check will be required to play games.

The Xbox One will automatically authenticate a game using an encryption code built into a game's disc, when it is installed on the machine. That authentication on the console's hard drive tied to the game is then verified regularly through an internet connection.

When a person sells the game or it is installed and played on another system, the game is deauthenticated on the original machine until the disc is brought back and used to re-authenticate the installation.

Our sources also said that there are no plans to charge gamers a fee to sell or reactivate a used game. Earlier today, Microsoft's Larry Hryb touched on the topic of used games on his blog, but didn't say whether fees will be required.

"The ability to trade in and resell games is important to gamers and to Xbox," according to the official statement he included in his post. "Xbox One is designed to support the trade in and resale of games. Reports about our policies for trade in and resale are inaccurate and incomplete. We will disclose more information in the near future."

We reached out to Microsoft for comment and representatives pointed us to Hryb's statement.